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Friend in ordinary town told by police that they can't do anything about anything. So, anarchy in the UK basically

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WideWebWitch · 09/10/2007 10:17

My friend had bricks thrown through the window of her house 3 weekends in a row. When she called the local police they said they weren't interested in taking details or doing anything about it at all. And they implied that this is the case for an awful lot of crime in her town (ordinary place in the SW)

When she said she was a bit scared because a) they happened late at night and b) she's a single parent with 3 small children they said and I quote, more or less, from what she told me:

"you know, we can't do anything about anything any more. Time was when we SAW someone put a brick through a window we could arrest them. These days even if we see it happen we have to 'invite' them to the station at their convenience. They may turn up, they may not. And we then have hours of paperwork to do for no conviction."

2 separate policemen told her on 2 separate phone calls:

"we have no resources, no power. We can't really do anything about anything. People are getting away with all sorts of behaviour and we can't really do anything about it. Policing is pointless"

I appreciate a brick through a window ISN'T the crime of the century, not remotely, that's not my point - my point is that these comments are interesting.

A male friend of hers waited outside the house this weekend to see if he could see anyone and when he told the police he wanted to do it and if he caught them should he call them they said no, don't bother. He said "but you'll do me for something if I catch the person won't you?" and they said "not if we don't know who you are sir" - they implied "go ahead, take the law into your own hands and don't tell us about it, we don't care and we can't do anything aobut it anyway".

Views anyone?

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seeker · 09/10/2007 10:59

Criminals do not have more rights than law abiding citizens - that is just nonsense!

Carmenere · 09/10/2007 11:19

My policy on 'petty' crime would be two strikes and you are a human mine sweeper in Iraq. I'd like to see arrogant little shits boasting about being arrested with that looming in their futures

Ripeberry · 09/10/2007 11:27

If a burglar comes into your house and you whack him one out of sheer panic or terror, the police would arrest you first, hence they have more rights than you.
AB

PoshCod · 09/10/2007 11:27

"kicked off the island last night."##yes that s a greadt crime reduciton strategy!

smugmumofboys · 09/10/2007 11:36

I'm not surprised by your friend's experience www. We live on a 'nice' new estate in a 'nice' Mid-Cheshire town The estate has been plagued by youths committing the kind of low-level anti-social behaviour that, whilst not serious, is enough to make people feel unsafe/uneasy going about their business. One local resident (posted on residents' forum) had an almost carbon copy phone convo with an inspector at our local station when youths threw something at his window. Basically, not enough officers, too much paperwork and even if it gets to court, no effective punishment.

Fast forward a few weeks. Headlines in local rag last week - a gang of 40 youths armed with chair legs and sticks roaming around the streets one evening looking for trouble. Then the police came out and there are pledges to Do Something About It. As others have said, what a shame it was allowed to escalate to this level!

Doodledootoo · 09/10/2007 11:42

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ThePhantomToiletFlusher · 09/10/2007 11:48

I would encorage your friend to write to the Inspector at the police station which covers her area to complain.

Policing has not changed. If there is evidence that someone has committed a crime (eg someone has been seen throwing a brick through a window/CCTV) then Police have a power to arrest that person, interview them and if there is deemed enough evidence to charge them and pursue it to court.

Your friend was mis-informed about this and it makes me cross when Police do this "we're so crap/stretched/no resources/time" routine as it does nothing to increase the publics perception and faith in them.

If there were no witnesses/other evidence (eg CCTV) as to who threw the brick the details should have been taken and the crime logged.

sKerryMum · 09/10/2007 11:48

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pigleto · 09/10/2007 11:59

I think chucking people off the island when they have been found to be a criminal is a cracking idea. There would have to be a sliding scale as to the height of the cliff and the severity of the offense though .

PoshCod · 09/10/2007 12:07

BUT heey do take all sorts of shit to ocurt though
a heroin addict in the henous crime of " theft of a fruit and nut bar"

id liek to sya i am kidding but i aint

theUrbanDryad · 09/10/2007 12:14

my goodness cod, that takes the piss, that really does. was he a known shoplifter? did he get sentenced?

there's a riot van parked down my road regularly, and last Saturday night we had a disturbance two doors down, which was attended by 2 police cars and an ambulance. on the Monday we had a WPC knock on the door and ask if we saw anything. so round here at least, the police are trying to make a difference and be visible. the thing is, people don't give a shit anymore. i saw 2 police officers on bikes riding down my road, followed by a yoof on a BMX shouting things like, "Where you off to, you off to the park? Gonna play on the swings?' now, i know that this isn't exactly heinous, but it does show a total lack of respect for the authority that these people hold. i know for a fact that the police round here are underfunded and short staffed, but they do try to make a difference. i think it takes more than police, tbh.

PoshCod · 09/10/2007 12:38

yes he wantquite with us irrc( was years ago)

you cna only be cautioned is it once? for the same offence

littlerach · 09/10/2007 12:46

My neighbour is a policeman and he was despairing baout it all over the summer.

My friend's parents were burgled last weekend. they live in a v rural area, and pretty much everything was taken, even photos. The polce still haven't sent round a support peson, or referred them to victim support. As soon as they found out that thy ehad insurance, the polce have barely been in otuch.

Eve · 09/10/2007 13:05

...ah... they do have time to do things...my friend got stopped by police when walking home after 2 glasses of wine in the pub.

She told the police lady that shouldn't they spend time on proper criminals...and got arrested!!

...that's in the same town!

when it came to court police produced no evidence.

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