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Friend in ordinary town told by police that they can't do anything about anything. So, anarchy in the UK basically

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WideWebWitch · 09/10/2007 10:17

My friend had bricks thrown through the window of her house 3 weekends in a row. When she called the local police they said they weren't interested in taking details or doing anything about it at all. And they implied that this is the case for an awful lot of crime in her town (ordinary place in the SW)

When she said she was a bit scared because a) they happened late at night and b) she's a single parent with 3 small children they said and I quote, more or less, from what she told me:

"you know, we can't do anything about anything any more. Time was when we SAW someone put a brick through a window we could arrest them. These days even if we see it happen we have to 'invite' them to the station at their convenience. They may turn up, they may not. And we then have hours of paperwork to do for no conviction."

2 separate policemen told her on 2 separate phone calls:

"we have no resources, no power. We can't really do anything about anything. People are getting away with all sorts of behaviour and we can't really do anything about it. Policing is pointless"

I appreciate a brick through a window ISN'T the crime of the century, not remotely, that's not my point - my point is that these comments are interesting.

A male friend of hers waited outside the house this weekend to see if he could see anyone and when he told the police he wanted to do it and if he caught them should he call them they said no, don't bother. He said "but you'll do me for something if I catch the person won't you?" and they said "not if we don't know who you are sir" - they implied "go ahead, take the law into your own hands and don't tell us about it, we don't care and we can't do anything aobut it anyway".

Views anyone?

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PoshCod · 09/10/2007 10:18

is he near here?

WideWebWitch · 09/10/2007 10:19

This isn't about my friend btw, or meant to be disgusted of Tunbridge Wells, it's about what they said and the despair they conveyed. She said if she could have taped it it would have shocked a lot of people.

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WideWebWitch · 09/10/2007 10:19

Your town cod

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AngharadGoldenhand · 09/10/2007 10:19

Not the attitude of the police round here.

PoshCod · 09/10/2007 10:20

i haev a plan
have mailed oyu

FioFio · 09/10/2007 10:21

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Sobernow · 09/10/2007 10:22

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sKerryMum · 09/10/2007 10:22

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seeker · 09/10/2007 10:23

I know I'm going to be flamed for this, but it is odd that it's always "friends" who have been told stuff like this. I'd like to hear it directly before I worried too much.

WideWebWitch · 09/10/2007 10:23

didn't see it but googled Fio

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WideWebWitch · 09/10/2007 10:24

seeker, this is a v old friend, I know her extremely well, this is from the horse's mouth. She doesn't make things up.

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Sobernow · 09/10/2007 10:25

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PoshCod · 09/10/2007 10:26

i haev mailed oyu a plan
it involves htat age old skill

nagging

WideWebWitch · 09/10/2007 10:28

have replied cod, got to go to work now
but anyway, this not just about my friend, but about policing etc

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Carmenere · 09/10/2007 10:29

That attitude is indicative of that station have a really bad week. That is certainly not the case in most areas. Dp used to be in the met and felt bogged down by the amount of paperwork they needed to do but he certainly was effective. (he spent quite a lot of time in court)

I think that there is a huge problem with errant teens having few consequences to their actions. they have to commit fairly serious crimes in order to really get in trouble. So I suppose your friends brick comes under that scenario. I would question that they can't arrest someone if they are seen breaking a window

PoshCod · 09/10/2007 10:30

i think the kaiser chiefs shoudl run for eleciton
they haev it down to a tee

FioFio · 09/10/2007 10:32

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Carmenere · 09/10/2007 10:35

That is absolutely fecking awful Fio, I would write and complain

Doodledootoo · 09/10/2007 10:38

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GrumpyOldHorsewoman · 09/10/2007 10:42

A friend of mine who was receiving malicious and threatening phone calls was told there was nothing could be done (even though the phone calls were also followed up with the classic 'brick through the window'). However, the policeman who came out to take a statement told said friend (6ft 4, huge burly bloke) that should he ever find out who the culprit was, a blind eye would be turned to any subsequent actions. And I thought vigilanteism was frowned upon, never mind advocated.

Am very shocked at Fio's story.

pigleto · 09/10/2007 10:44

We had a bit of paint sprayed on the fence. We had two policemen and a victim support officer round that day. It was annoying but I didn't feel like a victim.

I would have to move if someone attacked me in my house. I wouldn't feel safe. How horrible for your friend.

Ripeberry · 09/10/2007 10:46

Well that is the way it is these days. The criminals have more RIGHTS than law abiding people and they know it.
Sometimes i wish there were more vigilanties around to sort out the low-lifes that the police won't touch or can't be bothered to because of all the stupid PAPERWORK they have to do.
Until the law abiders are given more RIGHTS than the criminals it will all just get worse.
Drug dealers should be given much harsher sentences and part of the punishement for doing criminal acts whilst on drugs is to go cold turkey.
AB

Ripeberry · 09/10/2007 10:48

If the police can't police the community then the community has to police ITSELF.
AB

ManxMum · 09/10/2007 10:48

RE the cctv idea - I think the law says, and plese correct me if I am wrong, that you are not allow3d to shop anyone or 'broadcast' anything you record, with out the premission of the person you have recorded. So, in theory, a camera would possibly be a deterrent, until the miscreants realise that is not recording.

Has she claimed on insurance?

I am so glad I don't live in the UK anymore

ManxMum · 09/10/2007 10:53

TV repairman told me yesterday that he and his wife had found a stranger in their home on Sunday night. They called the police who caught this guy 20 minutes later in the bedroom of another couples house.

He was interviewed yesterday morning and kicked off the island last night.

Apparently it wasn't the first offence for him, but it was dealt with swiftly.