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FINALLY...........ITS ALL OUT IN THE OPEN

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EvesMama · 10/10/2004 21:04

started this new thread as the old one was about sensitive matters.
relieved that many other feel that this site has become 'restricted'.
many subjects discussed have been close to home for me, however i have tried to offer advice rather than condem someone for discussing it and raking up my feelings.
hope things start to get better otherwise, will have to revert back to watching rubbish on telly.

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herehere · 10/10/2004 21:26

that's not how I see it sobernow. fair enough that's only my thoughts but you lot are bitchin about the bitchin!

Skate · 10/10/2004 21:26

Can I be even more smug and say I've even made ds1's lunch up for playgroup tomorrow .

EvesMama · 10/10/2004 21:27

thankyou sodbernow...exactly...were all adults and were here to help oneanother, we may not like some content, but no one wants to be upset when looking for help.

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essbee · 10/10/2004 21:27

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WideWebWitch · 10/10/2004 21:28

Agree sobernow. You know, this kind of thing seems to happen about once every 6 months on mumsnet: someone gets upset, people flounce, huge discussions ensue about whether it's changed/there are cliques/censorship blah blah blah. I saw the thread and lisa78 clearly didn't know the history of the offended person - I didn't either and didn't know what was going on when people started saying sorry to her - and Lisa78 didn't mean to offend anyone so what's the problem here? With so many posters I can barely keep up with who's pregnant, let alone everyone's history and I don't think we should all be expected to tbh. This'll all blow over, it always does

MeanBean · 10/10/2004 21:28

But HH, I think what makes it valid for a discussion to continue, is that it has widened beyond what the original thread was about. It has been a discussion about the atmosphere, etiquette, niceties etc. of Mumsnet. Which I think is quite useful to have once in a while. And it may not be ideal that it is started off by subject matter distasteful or upsetting to some, but on Mumsnet as in RL, we have to start from where we are, not where we would like to be.
Sorry if that offends anyone, desparately trying to be as polite and tactful as possible!

JoolsToo · 10/10/2004 21:28

well - I usually say I what I want but without being nasty I hope - although people may think otherwise and thats fine and if they want to come back and call me 'crass' ok - I ain't going to burst into tears or call in a moderator - I hope I'm wise enough to know by now that everyone has a different view on any subject you care to mention including parenting. As I'm quite new I don't think my comments go down a storm with a lot of people but from my point of view I think its quite good to have a mix of people - you don't want EVERYONE going - yeah, you're great, yes I agree, yes you're bloomin' wonderful - how blooody boring is that!

As Mrs Merton would say - 'Let's have a heated debate!' - count me in

KBear · 10/10/2004 21:28

Who's bitching? This is getting silly now.

EvesMama · 10/10/2004 21:29

yesssss essbee! ill have a large dry martini and lemonade {grin]

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EvesMama · 10/10/2004 21:29

come on girls..the bar is open...hows your day been??????????

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Skate · 10/10/2004 21:30

LOL JoolsToo!

Now have you done all YOUR ironing? I have

Skate · 10/10/2004 21:30

I'm just off to get a real drink - red or white, red or white, red or white......

enid · 10/10/2004 21:30

Well, hula/here here, I think mumsnet is RUBBISH when it gets all up itself and cliquey and snotty and holier than thou.

I hate threads being deleted too.

I like to say what I feel like, and I like to think I've given enough bloody help and support so that occasionally I can have a rant if I feel like it.

KBear · 10/10/2004 21:31

I'll have a rum and coke - I'm celebrating. Non-ironing day!!

EvesMama · 10/10/2004 21:32

white skate, then i can pretend im sharing the bottle!!! have full bottle of martini in fridge with no lemoade...might drink it neat if this gets any worse!!!LOL

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JoolsToo · 10/10/2004 21:33

Skate - no I bloody haven't - and I'm not a member of 'boy gang' - you're flippin' marvellous all those boys to look after and you've done the ironing - where's your halo? My excuse if I've been away for the weekend so am I excused?

GeorginaA · 10/10/2004 21:33

I have mixed feelings about this, to be honest. I think "we" seem to be lurching from one extreme to the other - in one thread, knives can be out and despite the original poster just looking for help find themselves attacked and ridiculed in very hurtful ways for their pains, in another thread almost the reverse happens with everyone tiptoing around accusing people of having offended everyone else.

I'm not sure of a solution, or of where the line is drawn, but I do agree with www that this seems to happen on a regular basis, not just on Mumsnet, but most of the online communities I have belonged to overtime. We get a few "oh no, the sky is falling" in type crises, then it all blows over and somehow we're all still there at the end of it, ready to rinse repeat.

There's probably a dissertation or postgraduate thesis on how online communities work in practise there somewhere...

essbee · 10/10/2004 21:33

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Toothache · 10/10/2004 21:33

Oh dear.... not again.

why o why o why o why o why o ...

....hang on a minute, isn't that a song?

JoolsToo · 10/10/2004 21:35

Barman - can I have a 'slow comfortable screw' please? and make it snappy!

enid · 10/10/2004 21:35

Oh come on toothache, you used to be in the thick of these kinds of threads

Skate · 10/10/2004 21:35

...it's red.....and a flake .

JoolsToo - a 'weekend away'? What's that then?

JoolsToo · 10/10/2004 21:38

skate - its a really great concept - what you do is - have your kids at an early age - get rid of them as soon as poss - follow with hundreds of weekends away, just the two of you - marvellous

Skate · 10/10/2004 21:38

But hang on - if your kids are grown up, don't you have grandchildren to take away with you?

essbee · 10/10/2004 21:38

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