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grrrr royal mail strike!

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twinsetandpearls · 30/07/2007 18:39

I went to the post office today to pick up some parcels and they have all been lost andthe guy behind the counter shrugged and said that because of the strike they were not sorting mail and that lots of it had gone missing. He then turned his back on me and carried on chatting to his colleagues. There was a queue and all of us were told that our parcels had done missing.

As a public sector worker who would never go on strike over pay and is seeing cuts that really hurt society I am shocked by their complete disdain for the general public.

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saltire · 03/08/2007 08:42

NO doubt there will be a £12 "late payment fee" slapped on a lot of accounts.
In my defence I did try to pay it over the counter at the Halifax - assuming that since they are now the same group then I would be able to pay it over the counter!. I couldn't, thye wouldn't let me!

saltire · 03/08/2007 08:52

Taken from Royal Mail website today

We are very disappointed to report that our colleagues in the following mail centres are currently taking unofficial strike action:

Liverpool City Delivery Office
Chester Mail Centre
Newcastle Mail Centre
Aberdeen Mail Centre
Liverpool Mail Centre
Edinburgh Mail Centre
Kilmarnock Delivery Office
Johnstone Delivery Office
Glasgow G1 to G4 Delivery Office
Paisley Delivery Office
Glasgow G21 and G22 Delivery Office
Clarkston Delivery Office
Glasgow G41 and G42 Delivery Office
Glasgow G52 Delivery Office
Inverclyde Delivery Office
Stranraer Delivery Office
Ayr Delivery Office
Dumfries Delivery Office
Irvine Delivery Office
Motherwell Delivery Office
Edinburgh Airport
Royal Mail Scottish Distribution Centre
Glasgow Mail Centre

Doesn't look like much mail will be getting delivered in Scotland!

pipsqueeke · 03/08/2007 08:55

i'm waiitng for 2 parcels which were snet last week -0 not to mention something sent this week.

MrsWeasley · 03/08/2007 08:55

we've not had any post since monday!

saltire · 03/08/2007 08:58

On Monday we had three deliveries, within 10 minutes of each other, and each delivery consisted of 1 letter. Nothing since. I am expecting three ebay parcels, 2 from my mum and I have three birthday cards and four parcels to post!

prettybird · 03/08/2007 09:56

We're in G41, so that would expalin why we've not had any post all week.

expatinscotland · 03/08/2007 10:00

We've had no post for 2 days.

EH6

FillydoraTonks · 03/08/2007 10:01

to the OP: you'd never go on strike over pay? seriously?

I would, if they were taking the piss. And I'd expect dp to do likewise.

I have a family to feed. They probably do too.

mamazon · 03/08/2007 10:02

they must be off strike for today, i recieved the most enormouse pile of mail today but not had any all week

southeastastra · 03/08/2007 10:21

i love the website comment

We are very disappointed to report that our colleagues etc...

well sort it out them rm. grr

thelady · 03/08/2007 10:26

When will the PO workers realise that all they're doing is convincing people to look for alternatives? I can't afford delays in my post, so I'm hunting out other ways of communicating with customers - and am unlikely to go back to Royal Mail.

Suspect quite a few small businesses will be doing the same....

So, you don't like your company having to modernise because they're losing money - go on strike and make them lose even more

quiveutmabonnebaguette · 03/08/2007 10:28

Are they on strike still today ? do they assure the service minimum ?

southeastastra · 03/08/2007 10:31

but it's not about modernisation. small businesses have been able to use other courier methods for ages if they want.

can't seen many courier operations willing to deliver door to door in remote parts of the uk for the price of a 1st class stamp.

pipsqueeke · 03/08/2007 10:47

they're on strike till weds then apparently the day after it's back to normal then on strike again or limited services.

we've had no post for the last 2 days hoping it just menas no bills but I know i'm expecting parcels thou which should have come by now.

Peachy · 03/08/2007 10:58

Filly teachers nurses etc rarely would- when i was nursing i wouldn't have, and when I am teaching (delayed ayear now now due t pg but anyway LOL) I certainly wouldnt.

pipsqueeke · 03/08/2007 14:04

ours came 3 hours late. and even then he didn't listen to me when I said leave the letters/parcels outside the door (dog grabs it and baby was asleep) he left the parcel outside and put the letters thru much prefer our usual man, he's lovely and leaves it all outside - must rememeber a xmas box this year for him.

thelady · 03/08/2007 19:36

Perhaps I should clarify - we're moving from post-based communication to internet-based contact, including payments etc! I agree that courier companies are only useful if you live in large cities (I don't).

FillydoraTonks · 03/08/2007 20:29

dp is a civil servant

I've worked in charities, mainly

I would strike over pay, absolutely. Just because you are working in a "kind" sector doesn't mean you don't need to pay the mortgage. In fact you are already usually getting piss-taking wages, and the charity/govt is relying significantly on the whole goodwill thing.

FillydoraTonks · 03/08/2007 20:31

and teachers have struck plenty of times! In fact that was how they got what USED to be really great working conditions-much better than average pay, excellent pension and lots of career development.

And NOW, when teachers have all but stopped striking, their terms of employment are pretty crap.

Tiggly · 03/08/2007 20:56

my urgent mri request has gone walk about in the post. It was posted on Tuesday. I could have had the scan by now and know whether I have a malignant tumour in my brain or just an illegal alien that i'll have to live with that will not do any harm.... blardy f*^&ing postmen. I also work in the public sector and have too many people relying on me to get in to work to be there to help provide their care. We are told not to strike as it would put lives at risk. Guess nurses and certain other public sector workers have consience (sp??).

Peachy · 03/08/2007 21:01

would you strike in a charity Filly? last few positions pre Uni were charity posts, wouldn't even have occurred to us 9and to say poor working conditions- in one the bboss stole from me so i had to do 2 jobs for 5 months, then in the other it went bankrupt- fortunately when I had decided not to return from mat leave)

Peachy · 03/08/2007 21:06

Tiggly hope you're ok , the notion posted further down that thsi doesn't cause serious issues is bollocks, it really is. The letter refusing DLA for ds3 took 3 weeks to arrive today- another week and it'd be too late to appeal

Tiggly · 03/08/2007 21:20

Many thanks Peachy. Couldn't post until now because I couldn't get my head around it (pardon the pun!). I'm desperate to know but the postal strike is doing nothing to help. Unfortunately the request had to go by post (the doctor referral was faxed) as they accept only the original.Bummer. That was a close shave with the DLA form.I bet they wouldn't have allowed you to appeal on the grounds of the postal strike either. I hope you get the money that you need, I know many of my patients whom are very ill and dying, but because they can wash their face and wipe their bum, can walk 10 yards, they don't qualify. It makes me sick.Good luck to you peachy

FillydoraTonks · 03/08/2007 21:22

but why on earth not, peachy?

yes, in theory I would. I was the shop steward in the last two charities I worked for and we certainly considered strike action on occasion, yes.

The bottom line for me is that charities NEED decent working conditions and decent pay for their staff. They already tend to pay around 80% of the civil service rate, which is itself under the private rate for the relevant skills. But meanwhile, due to their limited resources, charities need quality workers. And they simply can't attract and keep those workers if they don't have decent pay and working conditions, there is plenty of stats to back this up.

The last charity I worked for had excellent staff retention, and was the only one not to be bascially taking the piss and relying on goodwill in negotiations with staff. It was a big, professional charity. It also NEEDED to recruit graduates, preferably out of law school, and so was competing with the local legal firms which could offer decent packages.

This contrasts to another charity I have worked at where most work was one-to-one with clients, and it was relatively low skilled. Wages were continually eroded, managers constantly asked for goodwill in chopping and changing our contracted hours, and the only thing keeping most of us there was the clients. Fine for me, a student temping in my holidays. But no way on earth would I work there when I had a family reliant on my income. Had we struck, the mangement would have had to get in agency care for the strike days BUT had an improvement in conditions resulted, the clients would have massively benefitted from reduced staff turnover.

I will accept a certain amount in order to work in the third sector. I will accept low pay, and long, underpaid, working hours. I shouldn't have to accept this. Charities should be professional organisations, IMO. But if management take the piss then yes I will strike. It is a job like any other. Charities need to recognise this, especially the smaller ones.

I am currently considering becoming a trustee and my first action has been to revise the employment contracts to give the workers decent, fair rights. And if they are unhappy, and they can't resolve the problem any other way, I fully expect striking to be their bottom line.

The absolute best and cheapest thing for any business or charity to do, of course, is just to LISTEN to employees, make the little changes that matter to them (like family friendly working) and thusly actually retain staff.

twinsetandpearls · 03/08/2007 23:30

FillydoraTonks no I woudn't go on strike over pay but I accept that I perhaps had more choice in my job selection than an average postman. I knew the terms of my job when I took it on and I think for a teacher to strike is immoral except in the most grave of circumstances. When you work in the public sector you accept that you have to do over and above what yur contract says. I have in my time as a part time teacher earnt less than a postie and worked far more hours as my motivator for working is not money. I don;t say that as someone who has had a comfortable life either, while teaching part time we often struggled to put dinner on the table and pay our mortgage.

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