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Capital Punisment

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fairyfly · 20/07/2004 21:01

I have just been reading a Thesis on the subject which claimed 2 out of 3 people would like this form of punishment to be re-instated. Personally i don't believe that statistic so i wanted to ask if you would like to see it return as a way to handle our society?
Also i may have the year wrong (please correct me) but in 1965 it was abolished, i am interested to find out how often it was used in the 60's. Anyone have any facts?
Just fancied a chat about something that fascinates me, especially comparing statistic with
America the phillipines, china etc. also how 500
years ago you were put do death for trespassing, would love to know if the crime rates were low then.

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Bunglie · 21/07/2004 14:37

My view is simple. No One has the right totake the life of another. That includes executioners. Two wrongs do not make a right, however our prisons are 'soft' in my opinion, free study, TV, counselling etc. Bring back hard labour, make them give something back to society whilst they serve their FULL sentence. Having been burgled 3 times now, I feel that every criminal who commits an offense against a person should make reparation to that person or their family and be forced to meet with their victims.
Another reason I can not say I agree with capital punishment is because there are always going to be miscarriages of justice, and it is too late if you have executed them.

Fio2 · 21/07/2004 14:37

I think I would though sophable. i know what these people can do, although I am not classing a petty burglar in this. But really no-one would get passed my dgs but thats a different thread

Bunglie · 21/07/2004 14:39

Oh and EVERYONE has the right to defend themselves, their property and family and if that force is fatal (by accident) to the perpetrator of the crime, that is their fault as they knew the risks and should not have commited the crime, but that is different to capital punishment IMO

Bunglie · 21/07/2004 14:42

Finally.....I agree re Tony Martin, he had a right to defend his property from the little ***, he should not have been prosecuted.

Bunglie · 21/07/2004 14:43

Whew! and now I have that out of my system, it's back to work......

OldieMum · 21/07/2004 14:59

Looks like the murder rate is going to go up, then, if we can all kill people who break into our homes.

Twinkie · 21/07/2004 15:04

Sad but I don't think it would stop people breaking in would probably just mean they come tooled up with guns and knives ready to kill us first - maybe if they have THIEF tattooed across their forehead or their hands cut off they would think twice??

Fio2 · 21/07/2004 15:07

oh as if most of us would be able to kill people who broke into our homes! They are most probably that mindless they would kill us first. really oldiemum what would you do? or do you live in an area where this kind of thing doesnt happen?

What gives people the right to break into our homes and take things we have worked hard for? they are scum, there is no other word for it IMO

Fio2 · 21/07/2004 15:08

Oh and we have struggled bloody hard for what we have got, we are not rich but still people think they can take off us

Twinkie · 21/07/2004 15:10

To me then being beaten the crap out of and maybe having a permanant injury may teach them a far greater lesson than going to get some 'don't burgle houses' therapy on the inside!!

Fio2 · 21/07/2004 15:11

i agree

MeanBean · 21/07/2004 15:16

But however unpalatable the thought of therapy etc. is, it does get results. The experience of meeting a victim is a really horrendous one for a criminal - most criminals say they would rather do more time in jail than have to meet up with and hear about the consequences of their crimes. And those who have been through that process are far less likely to re-offend. That is not bleeding hard liberalism, it is cold, hard statistical fact.

OldieMum · 21/07/2004 15:35

I would call the police. I did once have to do this, as my dh's ex-wife tried to kick our front door down. They came very quickly, stayed on the phone while we waited for them and immediately arrested her. She was charged with criminal damage and never came to our house again. I'm extremely glad we didn't take the law into our own hands. We have also been burgled and have had our car radiator grille stolen twice. So please don't try rhetorical questions about where I live or the circumstances under which I live. I thought the question was about how society should be organised, rather than our personal lives, anyway.

Twinkie · 21/07/2004 15:37

Ok maybe we should have therapy and a good session of shit being kicked out of them!!

Fio2 · 21/07/2004 15:40

sorry oldiemum wasnt meant to be personal. Its just in my experience we have called the polce out and they havent come. this was in staffordshire btw and I cant see what else would help rather than defending yourself....you are right I wouldnt just lash out at someone, I havent got it in me but given that I would be in a vulnerable position I would use violence.

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fairyfly · 21/07/2004 18:11

I have a lot of catching up to do.......

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Angeliz · 21/07/2004 18:29

I've often said to dp, the ONLY hesitation i'd have about killing someone who broke into our house with my dd there, would be what would happen to my dd if i got sent to jail!

Simple solution for the scumbags is-don't break in!

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