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Desperate for a better life

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Fairyfly · 09/06/2004 06:36

In the last year everything has come crashing down, my self esteem, my energy to live and work and all my hopes. All i can see infront of me is a bottomless abyss and i am starting to get scared. I really don't know how to turn things round, i am constantly looking for answers to get me out of the huge hole i have found myself in. I am just finding dead ends. I am unemployed and have no idea how you get a job anymore, i don't know what i am good at and feel so low that i would be amased if someone would employ me in the first place. I have no skills that would get me into work. I feel terrible and worthless that my life has amounted to being a single mother on income support. I am finding it increasingly difficult to survive on the money i have availible. I need to move as soon as possible but don't know where to go and what would make me happy. I am sick to death of trying to keep my head above water and stay positive when i just get kicked to the ground again. I have been up all night worrying myself stupid, feeling all this pressure alone. Has anyone any advice on how to create a life for yourself out of nothing. I want to look at the future with more hope, i just don't know how to create it.

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HiddenSpirit · 09/06/2004 07:33

oh FF, I am so sorry you feel like this

Firstly, do you think it's because you're unemployed that you feel like this? If it is then go along to your jobcentre and tell them you want to go on the New Deal for Lone Parents scheme. This is voluntary and unlike Job Seekers Allowance, you won't get your benefit cut if you don't go for jobs. Your new deal advisor will help you look at jobs you can do with your current skills, give you training courses that you can go on to get the skills you would need for a job that you want to go for but don't already have the skills for (this includes confidence building courses ) and they can also give you money to go get an outfit (if you need one) for interviews/starting work.

The other route you could look at is college. For this you would get a bursary and I think in the summer months when you're not at college you can claim income support (unless you wanted to get a little part time job). If you wanted to go this route, pop down to your local college and ask to speak to a career advisor who will talk you through the details.

It does however sound to me like you have depression (sorry if you do and are already receiving treatment) and if you haven't been already, go see your doctor and tell them about these feeling you have.

I hope you feel brighter about things soon hug

Toothache · 09/06/2004 08:14

Oh FF - I was just going to say what Hiddenspirit did... you do sound very depressed (rather than just a bit down). While you are feeling like this it will be very difficult to put things into perspective and see a clear way out.

I think Hiddenspirits ideas are both marvellous! I had never heard of the Lone Parent scheme for Jobseekers. It's definitely worht a look?

What do you mean you have no skills??? You use a Computer for MN!! So you have computing skills.... just coz you're not an IT expert doesn't mean you couldn't work as a Computer Operator. Sign yourslef up with a couple of employment Agencies, it's free and MUCH less hassle than trawling the papers with ever decreasing enthusiasm. I started out working for an Electricity Supplier manually inputting peoples names and addresses into their Computer System! Very boring, but I only needed to do it for 6 mths or so before I had the PC knowledge and confidence to move onto bigger and better things.

As for college.... well the world really is your oyster! As a mature student you can select pretty much anything to do. Have a flick through the prospectus of your local college/Uni and see if anything jumps out at you..... it could be really exciting!

First and foremost you need to try to feel more positive. Easier said than done I know.....
Have you talked to you GP about this? Why don't you try some homeopathic remedies for depression? They DO work. Or try StJohns Wort to see if that picks you up a bit.

Please please please don't let these feelings fester any longer, they are only destructive. The fact that you have typed all that out and clearly want to make some huge changes to your life is a big positive step! Go for it.... and MN will be here all the way.

Fio2 · 09/06/2004 08:28

FF you have had so much crap happen to you over the last few years, you are bound to feel like this. Stop being so hard on yourself. What you have acheived is far greater than many people acheive in their whole lives. You have 2 beautiful sons who love and depend on you and you do them proud. Stop having such high expectations of yourself, because what you are acheiving is wonderful anyway. I am so proud of how you have coped with everything and I am sure in the future you will get evrything you deserve.

On a more practical note I think Toothache and Hiddenspirit's ideas are wonderful!

spacemonkey · 09/06/2004 08:34

Fio is right FF - your two boys are your greatest achievement. BUT - I know how you feel. I was in similar boat after breaking up with the father of my kids - homeless, on income support and, in my case, depressed. It was rotten. MNers appreciate what being a mother is worth, but society places no value on it at all.

What's happening with your OU study? I'm guessing you haven't been feeling up to it lately

Things will turn around - don't be too hard on yourself at the moment, just look at all the shit you've been through lately ... you should be congratulating yourself on still holding things together for yourself and the boys, never mind jobs!

Fairyfly · 09/06/2004 09:05

I haven't read through the posts yet, just wanted to make it clear i haven't got depression, honest, just the effects of a crappy situation

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Janstar · 09/06/2004 09:08

Hi fairyfly - I've been where you're hanging and I know what it's like to sit up all night with your head in your hands wondering how the hell you are going to get by.

When my ex dumped me and two dds, they were aged 4 and 1. I had worked for him, and lived in his house so I lost both home a job at the same time. I had also incurred thousands and thousands of pounds worth of debt on my credit cards which I had withdrawn and lent to him to help him with business problems. I trusted him. But he never paid me back a penny and never paid any child support either.

I could have chased him through the courts but I was afraid of him, not only that but I had had the stuffing knocked out of me and didn't have any kind of heart for a legal battle on top of everything else. My mother died two weeks prior to this so I went to live with my dad.

I got two jobs and most days of the week this only left me 4 hours a night for sleeping. My dad babysat while I was working and in return for this and a roof over my head I paid for all the household food and did all the cleaning and cooking for him.

After six months I managed to rent a big house and sublet some of it (with permission). It was squalid but we had to get by somehow. Over the course of the next three years I paid off most of the debt and worked myself into a position where I could give up the rented place and buy a massive house, continuing with subletting to backpackers. I then began to make serious money. Two years after that I met dh. By this time I was severely depressed to the point that I could hardly function and was visiting a psychiatrist three times a week.

I was determined not to be a single mum on benefits. I never claimed any benefits (except child benefit) and I paid off all those debts and also made enough money to contribute a significant sum to the purchase of our family home where we now live.

The cost was huge: my mental health and the stress which transmitted down to my kids. We lived in highly stressful circumstances for years, with people trashing your house, playing loud music and bringing in guests without permission at all times of day and night, stealing from you and running away without paying rent. But the money in the end was good enough to lift me out of that debt. You do what you have to do. I have worked in a large bank cleaning the toilets all night while a friend slept in my bed to listen for my kids - did that for a few weeks to tide me over when times were tight.

I also couldn't have managed without family and friends who helped me by babysitting and my dad who lent me money to help start my business (been paid back with interest).

I'm not suggesting you do as I did. I had no good qualifications (only 'o' levels) so had no chance of any kind of employment paying the kind of money I needed to avoid court for debt. So I had to take the self-employment route.

For all I know you may have skills and qualifications that will take you down an easier route. But whatever you do, don't expect it to be easy with two children to look after.

On the plus side though, I firmly believe that if you are determined and hardworking, there is nothing in this world that will stop you.

Forget beating yourself up about yesterday. You needed this time to recover from the huge blow you had been dealt. When a parent opts out of the family it is more than just a partner the other person loses. They also lose their whole future - or at least the one they thought they had. They have to plan a new one for themself and that takes a while. It's as big a blow as the loss of the partner, I think.

Now take a deep breath and put down yesterday. Pick up tomorrow and see what it contains for you. Your kids will both be at school before you know it and the amount of extra free time then is phenomenal. Accept all offers of help without compunction - you will never need it more than now. Why not go to careers advice and see what they can suggest for you? If you have a skill, consider starting your own business. I suspect you do have skills, you sound very creative and artistic to me.

Your life is not over - you are so young! Look at me, I was 31 when my ex dumped me. And 39 when I married dh. 40 when ds was born. And now I am on another phase with a new job I have always fancied doing and writing the novel I have long wanted to write. You have simply taken a few months out to recover from a devastating blow. Now it's time for renewal and you are quite rightly having a thorough think through first. You are going to be a great success at whatever you decide is 'your thing'.

Don't forget I'm always here for you.

Fairyfly · 09/06/2004 09:09

Thanks for the advice, i will ring the job centre, i forgot about that place. The only thing is i have to move, i'm in a huge loop.
I left my ou course for good this week, i just couldn't manage anymore while doing it, it was just extra pressure.

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katierocket · 09/06/2004 09:17

wow Janstar, I have such admiration for you, what a horrendous situation and how brilliant that you got yourself out of it.
Fairyfly, poor you, how awful that you feel like this.
have you ever looked at this site?
one parent families good for knowing you're not alone.

Job centre is a good place to start, they will give you free advice. Take it easy on yourself. I can't imagine how hard it must be to have all the responisibility. You're doing a great job.

Flip · 09/06/2004 09:21

Have you thought about moving to a different town and making a new life? It sounds to me as if you want to make big drastic changes all at once. But that's stressful so maybe you should pick the most important and tackle that first. If it's to move, then do that. Settle your boys and then you can seek employment in a new town.

I'm thinking of you and if you need any help I'm only an hour away and I'm not back at work until November.

Take care

Flip

Chandra · 09/06/2004 09:23

I have posted another simmilar thread yesterday, so I may not be of much help, just wanted to tell you that I feel for you and take care. hugs

Janstar · 09/06/2004 09:26

I forgot to say that I think the thing that really drove me all the time was that I wanted choices. I wanted to be able to go and eat in a restaurant if I wanted. I wanted to buy swings for my kids. I wanted to drive a car. I knew some mums living on benefits and after a while all the life seemed to go out of their eyes. I could see how tough it would be once on benefits to try and change things. Whilst I have the greatest admiration for such women, I knew I wouldn't be able to hack it. (Although I guess it would have been a case of you do what you have to if it had come down to it.)

Thinking about all this gave me the incentive to keep going when I was exhausted, and try things I wasn't sure I could do.

Tessiebear · 09/06/2004 09:57

Big Big Big admiration for you Janstar - how you have turned your life around is amazing and a real inspiration to others (Smile)

Tessiebear · 09/06/2004 09:58

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Tessiebear · 09/06/2004 10:00

Why wont my smile work???

Tessiebear · 09/06/2004 10:01

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Flip · 09/06/2004 10:02

I think it's lower case.

Flip · 09/06/2004 10:02

No spaces either.

Toothache · 09/06/2004 10:06

You can still use the old technique too...

Tessiebear · 09/06/2004 10:08

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Tessiebear · 09/06/2004 10:08

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Tessiebear · 09/06/2004 10:09
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Tessiebear · 09/06/2004 10:09

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webmum · 09/06/2004 10:16

FF I truly hope you'll be able to pull it through, you've recived excellent advice in here and Janstar's experience tryly inspiring.

lots of hugs and best of luck!!

hatter · 09/06/2004 10:26

Hi Fairfly,

there's been some stirring stuff to motivate you here. What a star Janstar is. I don't mean to be rude or dismissive of you saying it's not depression but the way you have written your original thread really does sound like classic depression symptoms. Don't think that because you have, if you like, good cause (a "crappy situation" to be down that that means it can't be depression. I've had depression - which was triggered by something concrete and very real - but which was depression nevertheless and made me feel like there was really no way out. It's an awful awful way to feel and it's virtually impossible to help yourself out of it. Classic symptoms are a lack of enjoyment in anything, even small things that usually make you smile, not sleeping, and feeling like you describe. I guess I'm just saying be aware of it, because it can skew your vision and make you feel like you can't pick yourself up. But it is something that a doctor can help with. Sorry if this is irrelevant old rubbish, but having had depression I hate the idea of someone going through it without support.

hatter · 09/06/2004 10:27

wink was accidental: it's that thing with brackets I think