I don't accept "s/he's tired" as an excuse for bad behaviour

[Twiglett]

from anyone

well I nod and smile, but inside I'm thinking .. no, crap excuse

when DS / DD misbehave they do it because they're PITAs

what do you think of the age old excuse?

Bollocks!

Sorry, please excuse me.
I'm tired.

I do, late nights, ie family do at the weekend, tired kids moaned all day. Mums for lunch kids moany me explaining it by tiredness. If its bad behaviour then tiredness not excuse but wingey stroppyness most deffo, my dp uses it all the time when I'm in a bad mood!

No, my two definitely are stroppier and more temperamental when they are tired. It's not an excuse - it's my job to make sure they aren't so tired it affects their behaviour regularly, and they need to learn to control their behaviour even when they are tired - but they are 4 and 2. Of course they are more poorly behaved when they are tired. To deny that is just facile IMO.

No offence Twigg

Its not an excuse (i.e it doesn't make it ok) but it may be a reason - and since I'm the grown-up not ds (who is just 4) I try to avoid too many flash points when he is tired, for instance removing him from situations before he is likely to kick off....

Ae your children not grumpy when they're tired then, Twig?

What do you mean by bad behaviour?

mine do misbehave when they are tired but they still get in trouble same as they would if they weren't tired!

Twig, my two are grumpy as hell after a late night (which is why they went to bed at 7pm tonight!). I think tiredness and hunger affects children's behaviour drastically.

Agree with Greeny's post.

I've been tired for a year now.

So fark off, Twig

mmmm I think it's true - I see a noticable deterioration in my children's behaviour when they're tired.

( and mine for that atter)

I'm also grumpy when I'm hungry

Not so much with older children, but there is a noticable difference in DDs behaviour if she's tired (she's 3 btw) I find she gets very antsy, and touchy (as in she keeps ruddy touching things!) I wouldn't put up with it from DS1 or 2 because they're old enough to know that feeling tired and grumpy doesn't mean they should act it.

DD misbehaves because she's a pita as well as when she's tired

I do - especially from children

I think tiredness (and being over hungry) can be a genuine reason, but DD still isn't allowed to get away with it and will still be reprimimanded as normal.

When you say you don't accept it, do you really not believe that tiredness affects behaviour, or something else?

I think my ds and dd do sometimes get stroppy when they're tired, as do I. I think it's fair enough sometimes, but it depends on circs. As an excuse for downright vileness which is never checked then yes, it's rubbish. But I have taken a tired child around a supermarket and the contrast between that and a refreshed well rested child is marked imo.

Oh, and blardy obviously I don't let DS1 do stuff he's not allowed to do when he's not tired just because he's tired.

That would be mental.

DS2 is only one, bless 'im, so he gets away with everything. I know you love this sort of parenting, Twig and it won't get your back up at all

PMT, eh, WWW?

DS1 went a whole week without daytime naps once.

He was horrid.

Agree that tiredness is the cause of general whingyness and tanrumdom

Certainly is with me, IGW.

Oops, sorry, I mean with DS1, obv.

My kids are, incidentally, always impeccably behaved and a total delight in supermarkets. They love shopping and are invariably complimented by staff and fellow customers on their pleasant, helpful and courteous demeanour.

Thanks Hunker (keep forgetting I have this name and am advertising it to everyone but hey!)

Christ on a bike, you want to see me when I don;t get my daytime nap

I'm a right mare, especially if I'm not allowed to watch CBeebies

My dd gets weepy when she is tired but ds turns into something from the Exorcist. I don't use it as an excuse, but it is an explanation.

hey Twiggers - come back and explain

Has Twig done a moondog on us here, do you think?