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Mothers buy chips to get around schools healthy eating

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Blandmum · 15/09/2006 15:49

I have just heard in the radio that some mothesr have been boycoting a schools healthy food initiative.

They have been taking orders from the kids, going to the local chippy, and taking food trollys of junk food round to the children at lunch time.

Oh FFS!

Taking out of the equation those small numbers of children who have special needs issues with food, what the fuck do these women think that they are doing?

How do they think this will help the children or the school?

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sorrell · 15/09/2006 22:33

No I bloody wouldn't. If they were anywhere near my kids school I would be incandescent. Think it is v patronising to think that only posh people care about what their children eat.

sorrell · 15/09/2006 22:33

They are undermining the whole school by their actions and just loving it. Vile, loathsome women.

edam · 15/09/2006 22:35

Now y'see that's where I get on my high horse, because I object to the use of the word cunt as an insult.

This thread has made me feel bloody nostalgic for proper Yorkshire chip shop chips, though. They just don't make 'em like that down here.

Heathcliffscathy · 15/09/2006 22:35

ackcherly.

i think that kids can eat fried foods every day (anyone grow up in the 70s?)

if they run and jump and whizz around all day (anyone grow up in the 70s?)

give me chips any day of the week over anything with aspartame in it.

hunkermunker · 15/09/2006 22:36

Hmm. You have a point, Edam. I shall retract my cunts.

Can I just use vile then? Or is that a bit middle class of me?

Cappuccino · 15/09/2006 22:37

edam the beer is flat too

last time I was in London I was itching to get over the other side of the bar and screw the bleeding sparkler on right

sorrell · 15/09/2006 22:37

So do you give your child chip shop chips every day?

sorrell · 15/09/2006 22:37

More to the point, would you be happy with people coming to your kid's school and offering to replace his healthy lunch with them every day?

Heathcliffscathy · 15/09/2006 22:38

no but he eats a lot of butter and olive oil and tons of avocados and what i'm saying is that world that things of chips as the enemy but gives kids 'sugar free' (ie. pumped full of sweeteners) stuff is absolutely insane.

Cappuccino · 15/09/2006 22:38

I do think that the attitude edam is talking about is all over the usual mn food and judging threads

often it's subtle, but it's there

sorrell · 15/09/2006 22:42

And this is why it matters:
New research shows highest adult heart risk for 'invisible' primary school children
Research published today indicates that the risk of heart disease in adulthood is more strongly related to how quickly children gain weight between the ages of two and eleven than their actual body weight at any particular age. Scientists believe this is linked to differences in insulin processing in later life.

The British Heart Foundation (BHF) funded research, which is led by Professor David Barker of the University of Southampton, is published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Professor Barker commented: "Our research shows that it is rate of weight gain, not the degree of fatness at any one time, which is the main predictor of future problems. Those children that may be most at risk from later heart disease are effectively invisible - you wouldn't be able to pick them out immediately in a primary school classroom as being at risk. You would need to monitor their body weight over a longer period."

The research team looked at the medical records of more than 8000 people in Finland. Their analysis showed that small size at birth, thinness at two years, and high body mass at 11 years were all associated with later risk of heart disease.

A path of growth that combined these factors was associated with the greatest risk of later heart disease. People who were small and thin up to the age of two and gained weight more quickly than their peers thereafter, catching up with, or even surpassing them by 11 years were most at risk. Adults that developed in this way were resistant to the effects of insulin and were most likely to later develop heart disease.

Conversely, greater growth in babies of all sizes in the first two years was associated with a lower incidence of coronary events.

"Slow early development and undernutrition in the womb may programme a 'thrifty' metabolism, which includes insulin resistance that becomes inappropriate with adequate or excess nutrition in childhood," added Professor Barker.

Professor Barker and his colleagues at the Centre for the Developmental Origins of Health and Disease at the University of Southampton have pioneered the relationship between low birth weight and later heart disease. In this study the research team has been able to examine for the first time the long term effects of growth between birth and the age of two. They analysed the extensive medical records of 8760 Finns born between 1934 and 1944. Each individual in the study had 11 measurements of height and weight recorded between birth and 2 years.

The Southampton team worked closely with Professor Johan Eriksson in Finland, whose team examined more than 2000 of the group alive today, checking their glucose, insulin and cholesterol levels.

Peter Weissberg, Medical Director of the BHF said "This is interesting and important data that feeds into an evolving picture of how nutrition and early life may affect our adult health.

"Although this picture is not yet complete, this study tells us something about the way fat cells are laid down in this period of childhood, which seems to leave some of us at risk in later life.

"In the future, as we understand more about the biology, studies like this one will contribute to guiding healthcare advice and services from the womb to the grave."

sorrell · 15/09/2006 22:44

I doubt very mucht that the chip shop hags are holding back on the coke and fruit shoots either. I think you bring a remarkably middle-class London-centric avocado-based viewpoint to all this. Well, as long as its not your child being stuffed full of chips and being told that being given vegetables is like 'being in a concentration camp' eh? After all, they are only working class kids, aren't they?

Cappuccino · 15/09/2006 22:44

oh good grief

I don't think anyone is saying anything like 'you can come round my kid's school with your shopping trolley, darlin''

it's just the rhetoric

Heathcliffscathy · 15/09/2006 22:45

sorrel.

if i wasn't vaguely amused i'd be grossly insulted.

Heathcliffscathy · 15/09/2006 22:48

if you READ my posts, you'll see that at no point do i suggest that these women are doing the right thing.

nor do i think that they are cunts.

i think i was clear in suggesting that this looked like a pr stunt.

i can't see them feeding their kids chips through the chicken wire in a year's time.

it makes a lovely and blessed relief to come across someone that is more aggressive than i am by the way. for no apparent reason.

alexsmum · 15/09/2006 22:48

sophable- i grew up in a working class home in the 1970's and we certainly didn't have fried food every day. Just because my parents were poor doesn't mean they were thick as pig shit and unable to give their children a nutritious diet.
Giving your children crap food all the time is pure laziness.

Heathcliffscathy · 15/09/2006 22:49

wow.

where the fuck is all this coming from????

i was talking about me!!!

i grew up in the 70s. to polish immigrants (on one side).

and had fried food a lot

and was thin as a whip

and had a lot of veg and stews too

what the fuck are you all on????

BadHair · 15/09/2006 22:51

How do you know they're working class?

Heathcliffscathy · 15/09/2006 22:52

exactly badhair.

ffs

Cappuccino · 15/09/2006 22:52

this is just getting completely bizarre

I can't believe that people are taking these women seriously

as if they were a national chain or something

if you had kids at that school you'd just pay at the office for their dinners and not give the kids money for chips

it's quite simple - even northern working class parents can work it out

Heathcliffscathy · 15/09/2006 22:54

cappucino.

i don't know if you're lumping me in with the weirdness

is it just me or is the tone in here completely and unecessarily vicious

edam · 15/09/2006 22:54

HM, sweetie, I know things have moved on since your last post, but as far as I'm concerned you can say vile all you like. Wasn't you in particular, just the drift of the thread: 'OMG working class people, don't they look funny?! Sebastian, have you SEEN what they feed their children?!'.

ROFL at Sorrell's 'a remarkably middle-class London-centric avocado-based viewpoint'. Surely a contender for quote of the week?

Heathcliffscathy · 15/09/2006 22:55

nice edam

Cappuccino · 15/09/2006 22:58

you're right sophable (and no, I wasn't )

it's as if these women held down all of our precious children and poured dripping into their mouths

with bits of ash from their Lambert and Butler

I'll say it again - I can't believe this is being taken so seriously. It's funny, surely?

edam · 15/09/2006 22:59

I wasn't agreeing with her Sophable, I thought it was ridiculous!

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