Question for non-football-watching/non-sunbathing Historians (and pedants)

[JanH]

Is the 13th century medieval, strictly speaking? (I don't know how it would be classified if it isn't, it just seems too early somehow.)

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i d say yes

salisbuy has rateh cringe worhty signs up as you enter saying " mediaeval(sic) city"
cue masses of letter in local paper over spelling

adn its was fouidned in the 1200s

I'm here but I don't know

It's \link{http://www.drudion.org.uk/\this lot} ("of nutters" being the rest of the sentence...)

I suppose they should know. I just sort of thought, 1066-and-all-that style, medieval starts around Chaucer's time and he was 14th century, wasn't he?

(Answers on one side of the paper only, please)

I think so - no one seems to really know what to call that odd interval of saxons and disorder, now that "dark ages" has gone out of fashion. There's always 'early medieval' which seems to start before 1066...

nutters yes
i always taught middel ages to be thaty era

I'd say so.

medieval mayhem is postponed due to severe weather conditions?! I'm sure they wouldn't have been such wusses in the thirteenth century!

I'm sure my A-level history was 13th-16th century and classed as Medieval to English Rennaissance...if that helps at all.

Oh early medieval is good, 2cats - that should cover 1200+ - then we can have mid-medieval followed by late medieval

But then when does it end??????

Oh yes, I liked that postponement too - what's a bit of mud, eh?

Late medieval is Henry Tudor?

(God, I can't remember a thing - scary how much crap I talk with no facts to bakc it up )

Hypothesis - Historians Do Not Like Football - discuss!

Thanks, snafu. Renaissance comes next, does it? I was confusing myself (in my head) with Plantagenets and Tudors (forgetting the rest of Europe).

Hmm, well, google is defining it as the 5th-15th centuries and as 'the period before the Renaissance'...so plenty to play with there

I would have gone with Tudor next (since historians are always arguing about whether us Brits managed to do the Renaissance properly or not) on the belief that Medieval ends with the Reformation.

But then should we be naming all of our history on the arbitary and elitist basis of which family of royalty we have?!

So when is 'Early English' then? I thought c10 c11 c12 were 'Early English' or is that only when your talking about Architecture?

In my (qualified) experience, the medieval period spans from 1066 to 1485. After which, it is the Tudor period.

Sorry you said 13th century... went into my head as 12th.

I'd call it Medieval yes

\link{http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/timelines/britain/o_late_med.shtml\This page} gives a kind of overview that makes sense to me, although I noticed that the early medieval period and the exact start of the medieval period is not given!

That page calls it the Middle Ages, DG - from 1216-1347, or Henry III-bubonic plague

Yeah well, IMO the medieval period is 1066 to 1485.

DG, I just read the biog of \link{http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/henry_iii_king.shtml\Henry III} - I realised I knew absolutely nothing about him before, not even in a 10066andallthat way, and after reading that I still don't. Was he a Very Boring King or is it me?

and yes, I think Early English is just a kind of architecture (then Decorated, then Perpendicular - just the different kinds of gothic).

And I also realise, with shame, that I know nothing about Henry III, boring or not. Was it him who was dull, or just the book?

Can't really add anything to that biog JanH. Wasn't he the longest reigning monarch before George III and Victoria? I guess that is an achievement in its own right!

Id say medieval until 1385.