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Original poster

OMG .. don't let me go to Sainsbury's again

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Twiglett · 08/05/2006 12:52

when I'm .. shall we say hormonal

eek

I drove round the P&T bit but no spaces so parked away from it .. got DD out of seat walked through the rain to the entrance .. no biggy

BUT .. passed a middle aged bloke and his old mother getting into a P&T place

"this space is for people with toddlers you know"
"so what I've got my mother with me and she can't walk far"
"then get a disabled badge"
"keep out of it"
"don't park where you're not supposed to idiot"

stomp .. stomp ... stomp

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Twiglett · 08/05/2006 12:52

you have to read my part like a shrieking harpy / fishwife btw

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GDG · 08/05/2006 12:53

Huzzah! Well said Twig!

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Twiglett · 08/05/2006 12:54

no, no GDG .. she did look kind of frail and old

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charliecat · 08/05/2006 12:54

lol, I said to an old biddy the other day..parked in a P + T space, Hey youve forgot something , she started to look around and I said Your kids and just walked on. Made my day lol

pucca · 08/05/2006 12:54

Twiglett.. You know what bugs me more? when you see a mother with a 12 yo child parking in parent and toddler space GRRR!

Olihan · 08/05/2006 12:59

I had such a rant at a bloke and his wife who parked in a P&T space at my local sainsbury's that he eventually moved. I never normally do anything like that so I think it must have been sleep deprivation and hormones (dd was about 8 weeks).

Mind you, I was very proud of myself. If he hadn't moved I'd've followed him round the shop making comments.

And it's supposed to be the young generation with no consideration or manners!

gegs73 · 08/05/2006 13:24

Haha. I had a smile on my face the other day in Sainsburys. An old old looking lady was pushing round must have been her Granddaughter in the trolly who was screaming her head off - you know how Grannys always idealise their child care prowess back in the day.... well this was not a happy child and Granny looked stressed. She soon sorted it though with a nice big bun.. hahah bet she told the Mother she had been good as gold the entire time.

Saggarmakersbottomknocker · 08/05/2006 13:32

Parent and child - no age limits.

She's the parent, he's the child

tallmummy · 08/05/2006 13:37

I confronted a couple of smartly dressed 50 something women who did same. They watched me struggle to extract new born, toddler and 3 year old from car in tight space. When I told them the space they were in was for parents with young kids they said "Oh purleese" and walked off.
I fumed and left a polite note suggesting they might exercise a bit more sympathy to the plight of the parent shopping with babies and then gave her reg number to the customer services desk!! They asked her to move her car.
When I got back there was a note on my car saying she was sorry but she'd just had a triple by pass and a messy divorce! O.K felt a bit sorry but don't think this justifies nicking my space. The p&t parking is no closer to the shop than most of the normal parking anyway.

pacinofan · 08/05/2006 13:48

Actually, have to say if I saw an 'old mother' using a p&t space I wouldn't care a jot. She had trouble walking and was probably facing as much stress as I do shopping with toddlers/babies. I have every sympathy for her, yes, she should probably have parked in the disabled bay and display a badge, but I certainly wouldn't have said anything. Life's too short to be wound up about an elderly lady in a p&t space.

sarahhal · 08/05/2006 13:52

Gets my back up this one!! I'm too much of a wimp to say anything normally but love charliecat's comment - may dare myself to use it next time!
I did notice in one Sainsbury's that they have a notice saying that misuse of the spaces could lead to fines and there were plenty of spaces!! Maybe we should create some mumsnet stickers to slap on offending cars!!

saadia · 08/05/2006 14:51

This makes me mad too, happens so often at Waitrose and I end up parking miles away and having to struggle along with dss and then leave them alone while I go and return the trolley. I always try to look menacingly at the perpetrators but never have the guts to say anything.

meowmix · 08/05/2006 15:04

DS (aged 2.5) waddled up to a man getting out of a white van parked in a p&t place the other day and said "hello? are you a mummy?". my boy, sarcastic even in his formative years. sighs proudly

oops · 08/05/2006 15:28

sorry, if my parents were old and frail but not qualifying for a disabled badge for some reason then i would gladly let them park a bit closer to the supermarket if they needed to.

I just think we should show some respect to the old and infirm...

and, yes it is a nightmare getting kids into trolleys/out of cars etc. I do understand but i really think that if there are people that need the space more than me and my family then they should have it

sorry if that goes against the grain, but have just visited my 76yr old dad who has had amjor surgery this month and is not doing very well, he looks ok on the outside but is pretty ill. He doesn't hvae a badge because apparently his illness is temporary.
I would punch any one of you if you hassled my dad if he parked in a P and t space when tryinig to get some shopping form supermarket if that was the closest space.
God, just look around you for once! at some of these attitudes tbh.
we are the only people who live in the community

oops · 08/05/2006 15:31

i think twig is saying she feels a bit bad about it ...
forgive me if i am wrong.

I agree that able bodied people are arseholes if they use p and t spaces,
but i once worked somewhere where we dealt with alot of liggers and people swinging the lead to get free stuff from us.
One day a vry nicely dressed woman came in and she was given a fair bit of grief from the recxeption staff. In the end she started sobbing and asked us if we actually wanted to see her bleeding or her scars before we would believe her illness....

all i am saying is that maybe we should give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes...

lanismum · 08/05/2006 15:49

i gave up on p and t spaces at my sainsburys, total waste of time seeing as the 1 time there has been 1 free for us to use, some eejit parked so close to the side of the car with the car seat in that i ended up crawling in through the other side (arse on show to the world) and dragging a pissed off baby across the seat. just how bad at parking do you have to be to be that close to a car in 1 of those spaces?..............

catsmother · 08/05/2006 16:50

I didn't get a P & T space today .... no big deal, so parked elsewhere. When I came back, some total tosser in a Range Rover (wouldn't you know) had parked 4 inches from the side DD's carseat is. Had to get her to climb in the other side, crawl in the car after her and somehow heave her into seat, strap her in left handed .... all very difficult and unnecessary.

The tosser who'd blocked me in ..... sod any passengers I had obviously ..... had a flipping carseat in the back of their car and had obviously parked to give themselves plenty of space to get their child in and out safely but sod me and mine !

If it hadn't been pissing down they'd have got a very rude note on their windscreen ..... there was plenty enough space on their side to park considerately.

I'd never challenge someone obviously disabled, or un-obviously - with a badge, or old for that matter who parked in P & T. I give them the benefit of the doubt (and usually, there's no need to doubt) ..... it's the absolute twats (usually blokes in their 30s and 40s ) who think it's perfectly ok to be in P & T as they're "only popping in for a packet of fags" that do my head in the selfish c FFS !!!

Bibiboo · 08/05/2006 17:37

The whole point of parent & toddler spaces being so close to the shop is so that a parent doesn't have to cross any traffic with their child to get to the shop, yes?

I don't see a point to "disabled" spaces - if someone cannot walk/push their wheelchair very far to get to a shop, then how do they manange to get all the way round the shop with their goods?

Why not just have extra wide spaces for people who need extra wide spaces - like people with babies/toddlers/wheelchairs and crutches?

NotAnOtter · 08/05/2006 17:39

have not read whole thread but grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...in my town older people seem to park where they want then shove a badge in windscreen and think its ok . It also seems de rigeur for a lot of disabled badge holders to park in parent and toddler but not the other way around!

SheRa · 08/05/2006 19:12

Yesterday at Tesco's had already muttered 'tw*'t under my breath at some young, fit looking bloke in a jaguar who had parked in a p&t space sans kids (fit as in healthy not as in attractive!) but when I got back to my car the woman yesterday was loading her car without kids and she was a Tesco's employee! I took her numberplate and car type and have been thinking about writing a stinking letter. If employees show such disregard for the p&t spaces why should the other customers give a toss? So, should I write in or breathe deeply and let it go?

ruty · 08/05/2006 19:27

i often see elderly people using P&T spaces when i can't get one and though it does sometimes annoy me i don't feel i can have a go at them as they stagger towards the supermarket. But on Sunday, two very overweight people [sans children] in their people carrier were parked in a P&T space, and were piling their shopping into the bag. That really got my back up as we had to park in an ordinary space, and they obviously didn't give a toss. Didn't feel like saying anything though, looked too scary...

ruty · 08/05/2006 19:27

into the bag? the back!

MamaG · 08/05/2006 19:29

A couple of weeks ago, I was trying to get into a P & T space, all full. A woman got out of her car, and I thought she was locking it and said "Oh, where's your bloody kid then?" - she must have read my lips cos she opened back door and said, very clearly, "here".

I was

oops · 08/05/2006 20:08

bibiboo, you are being funny, right?

Blunderwoman · 08/05/2006 20:22

This makes me so angry that I've been known to leave my trolley right next to the offending person's car door and put the brakes on! They've inconvenienced me or someone in my situation so I'll inconvenience them! (I am so hard)

Parent and child spaces should be used by people - parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc - who have a child in a car seat in their car and intend to take them into the shop with them, as they need to open their doors a lot more than people with no child-seated children in the car! I also hate cars with children in the back but the driver or passenger has nipped into the shop for a packet of fags or whatever! They don't need the extra space that a parent and child space gives, they're just being bone idle lazy and will die a horrible, painful, unusual death, probably by being beaten to death by a hormonal mother weilding a French stick!!

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