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Original poster

OMG .. don't let me go to Sainsbury's again

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Twiglett · 08/05/2006 12:52

when I'm .. shall we say hormonal

eek

I drove round the P&T bit but no spaces so parked away from it .. got DD out of seat walked through the rain to the entrance .. no biggy

BUT .. passed a middle aged bloke and his old mother getting into a P&T place

"this space is for people with toddlers you know"
"so what I've got my mother with me and she can't walk far"
"then get a disabled badge"
"keep out of it"
"don't park where you're not supposed to idiot"

stomp .. stomp ... stomp

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oops · 08/05/2006 20:30

do you know, i really think that if the old lady couldn't walk far and the p and t spaces were closer to the supermarket than a normal space then she should be able to use it.
maybe people park in these spaces because they find it difficult to get out of the car uless the door is completely open. Arthritis and general old age can make you very stiff...

am still quite surprised at soem of the opinions on here

Blunderwoman · 08/05/2006 20:34

oops - I kind of agree with that, though the frustration comes more from seeing white van man park up in a space and eat his lunch, or the ditzy blonde in her MG convertible parking up because it's a windy day and she doesn't want to ruin her hair.

Maybe the answer is to make all spaces big enough to open the car doors fully?

lockets · 08/05/2006 20:36

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oops · 08/05/2006 20:38

it was just the op was talking about the old lady and i felt sorry for her.
and then i was thinking about how may dad is just now, and i can certainly move around better with my two little ones under 3 than he can with his prostate, heart problem and incontinence
so even though he just looks like an old duffer, he is really struggling atm, and if he parked in a p and t space i would be really angry if somebody shouted at him for it, like most of the people on here would seem to want to do.

oops · 08/05/2006 20:39

the tesco local to us has p and t spaces close to the shop, so i suppose i was thinking about that too.
twig did say that the man said the old lady couldn't walk very far..

Blunderwoman · 08/05/2006 20:43

oops - oops, feel a bit bad now - you're right!

PinkKerPlink · 08/05/2006 20:45

HAHAHA Saggarmakersbottomknocker :o:o

he could have though, in all honesty, have dropped her off by the door and then gone to park. its not like you can drop a toddler off by the door and then park is it?

cheeseypeas · 08/05/2006 20:55

Ha ha ha well done Twiglett.

I shouted at an old lady who que-jumped me at Dunelm. I was pregnant, bubbling with angry hormones and had just had massive row with DP over buying a matching floral olive oil drizzler. So she really got a full on... "er EXcuse me, do you mind???

Felt embaressed and guilty after though but like my DP said - just because you're old doesn't mean you can get away with it.

oops · 08/05/2006 20:57

maybe the little old lady needed help to stand, maqybe she didn't want to hang around the front of the shop on her own.
god, you are all so horribly self rightious about the rights of parents and toddlers to even consider how older people may need some help

i don't think i can post any more, this is beginning to leave me slack jawed tbh

oops · 08/05/2006 20:59

cheeseypeas, i hope you never get old and infirm

are you all just here to wind me up tonight??

cheeseypeas · 08/05/2006 21:11

ooops,

The lady I told off wasn't infirm or massively old. She was about 60ish, in a hurry and tring to get away with rudely que-jumping me. Given my extereme unfitness, my blimp-like size at that stage of pregnancy and the fact I'd be on me feet for hours - she was probably in a better physical condition that me. I pulled her up on it and like I said, I even felt bad.

We have a nightmare getting p&t spaces and there is nothing more annoying then trying to negotiatiate a grumpy 11kilo baby from his seat, through a tiny gap in the door whilst trying not to dent the car on the other side - then trudging through the rain just in time to see baby-less people drive out of those spaces.

I'm not a horrible person who is mean to old ladies - I think it's meant to be a light-hearted, banter-like thred.

2shoes · 08/05/2006 21:17

Bibiboo I would like to invite you to come shopping with me when i have mny dd with me then you will see the point to disabled spaces.
I can't believe anyone could post something so stupis

pinkandsparkly · 08/05/2006 21:19

What do you all think about people parking in P&T spaces late at night, say after 9pm? I never do coz it makes me feel uncomfortable, even though there are very few people with small children out at this time of day and these spaces are usually empty.

I get p'd off when I see P&T spaces being abused too, even though I don't have kids yet. They cram as many spaces as they can into car parks these days and sometimes you cannot get a fag paper, never mind a child between the gap some twat has graciously 'allowed' you.

I say challenge offenders if you're brave enough, otherwise, report them to the supermarket customer services.

Maybe we should campaign for supermarkets to 'name and shame' eg..
'Would the owner of the vehicle XXXX ZZZ please move out of P&T space immediately'

That would make them think!

PinkKerPlink · 08/05/2006 21:21

the disabled spaces are wider, that is the point of them

HunKeRMunKeR · 08/05/2006 21:23

Oh, FGS, get Ocado to deliver to you all, you mad right to a P&T space women.

oops · 08/05/2006 21:23

cheeseypeas, i didn't know you are pregnant, this being the internet! I can totally sympathise with trying to get a toddler out of a car when you are about to drop. It isn't alot easier trying to get a trolley with a car seat type thing and a toddler seat then load them both up into ti too..

but i suppsoe i am being devil's advocate, having just spent time with my poor old dad too. he looks fine on the outside, but is allmost incontinent and has a heart arrythmia. He still feels he'd like to do a bit of shopping- indpendence is a grat thing as you get older. To all intents and purposes, he is a fat old man. scratch the surface and he's a desperately sad recently widowed man trying to keep his dignity and do stuff for himself.

oops · 08/05/2006 21:24

Has the calvalry arrived????

oops · 08/05/2006 21:24

cavalry?

HunKeRMunKeR · 08/05/2006 21:26

I just honestly can't get wound up about this.

So there's someone in a P&T space who shouldn't be there?

Oh well.

oops · 08/05/2006 21:27

yes, and it is a little old lady- what a terrible thing to do to us poor mothers!

misdee · 08/05/2006 21:29

bibiboo 'The whole point of parent & toddler spaces being so close to the shop is so that a parent doesn't have to cross any traffic with their child to get to the shop, yes?

I don't see a point to "disabled" spaces - if someone cannot walk/push their wheelchair very far to get to a shop, then how do they manange to get all the way round the shop with their goods?

Why not just have extra wide spaces for people who need extra wide spaces - like people with babies/toddlers/wheelchairs and crutches'

or maybe, people with LVADS who need to swing their doors wide open to get their machine inside the car, people with splints whose movements arent very co-ordinated and also need doors swung open to get them in and out safely, people who have heart problems who can walk round a shop, but often have to abadon their shopping or get a wheelchair when they feel awful,

Just because someone is disabled doesnt mean they shouldnt be allowed to shop at all. One of Peters trips out of the hospital before he comes home was to tescos. He would not be able to get out of the car in a normal space. His fitness level is also not as good as a normal healthy 26yr old, so he needs to be close to the doors.

lockets · 08/05/2006 21:29

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coppertop · 08/05/2006 21:34

I agree with Oops.

at this thread.

cheeseypeas · 08/05/2006 21:35

oops, I think you've made a good point. If you don't have anything obviously physically wrong with you then it's easy to assume people are being lazy when they do this.

Every aspect of supermarket shoppng - the parking space trawl, the finding a decent trolly, the trying to remember what you need to buy on a budget amid the lights, noise, screaming bored baby. Urggghhhh I hate it. It brings out the worst in me and I bet I'm not alone.

I would just wanted to make the point that I'm not horrible to eldery people. :

PinkKerPlink · 08/05/2006 21:37

except in dunelm

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