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I know how to make a buget plan now but how do I action it

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overdraft · 05/05/2006 13:54

We are in a bit of a state now with more outgoing than are coming in.I have looked all afternoon at websites with budget planners so will fill one in over the next couple of days.Where do I go from there?

Any money saving tips would be a great help too please help.Both of us are not money minded and need a guide.

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charliecat · 05/05/2006 13:59

Ok, if theres more going out than coming in your going to have to cancel the non essentials such as sky...look at a cheaper broadband option etc.
Keep off the mobile phones
Dont use your house phone through the day.
Work out what you need in the bank for direct debits and take the rest out in cash.
Put the money for gas/electric/car tax/MOT etc in individual envelopes clearly marked with the amounts needed to go in each week on the front.
Never dip back in an envelope:)
If you dont need it, leave it on the shelf.
Packed lunch instead of mcdonalds/subway.
Is there a cheap[er way of getting to work/school?
No more magazines...

charliecat · 05/05/2006 14:00

Print off the simplest budget planner you can find. I do all mine on paper so I can seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee what needs to go where.
On a computer screen I would just close the window and go back to the argos, spend now screenGrin

rummum · 05/05/2006 14:07

I always write a meal plan for the week as well.. then I write my shopping list and I don't buy anything that I don't need...
I also cook double the quantity of food and freeze it... I save at least £20 a week doing this.. If you look in the archives you'll see some good threads on budgeting... good luck

tribpot · 05/05/2006 14:21

Don't use BT for phone calls - there are loads of cheaper operators around. I use \link{http://www.call18866.co.uk/index2.php\18866} - 4p for calls to a landline (not 4p/minute, 4p in total) but there are others around that are equally or even more competitive.

Are you in debt and do you have that under control if so?

overdraft · 05/05/2006 14:38

Hi all
We are in a bit of debt too.We have just got a loan to pay for overdrafts and stuff.We have just tranfered our balance on credit card for next nine months and are only afording the min payment.Trying to pay off the balance.We are not spending on this card anymore.
We use telewest for the phone,cable and internet.I think we are signed up for another 6 months with them.This package is costing around £68 a month

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overdraft · 05/05/2006 14:41

Trouble is we have just done this and the car went wrong and has cost £600 to fix.Well we haven't got it.My car also needs repairs and we can't have thm done.Dh dosen't earn bad money really.We just can't seem to scramble out of this hole and get on top of things.I would like to haave a holiday and have a little savings for car repairs and things.If we borrow again we will go deeper

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charliecat · 05/05/2006 14:45

What can you cut back on to get the CC paid off?

overdraft · 05/05/2006 14:57

Once the budget is done Charliecat i suppose we will have to see.We need to cut back to afford to live at the moment so any extra will need to go on living for a while.The min payments on the cards are £67 a month.

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charliecat · 05/05/2006 14:59

grim. Always pay CC off in future...tear the blooming thing into little pices. Evil itemsGrin

busybusybee · 05/05/2006 15:01

Hi Overdraft I think I should be inspired by your organised approach - I too need to turn over a new leaf

Can i nosily ask which website had the best budget planner?

tribpot · 05/05/2006 15:03

A loan to consolidate debts is usually a dangerous idea, as the temptation then is to run up the cards/overdraft again. However, hopefully you can avoid that by tackling budgeting head on!

I'd suggest a trip to the \link{http://boards.fool.co.uk/Messages.asp?bid=50079\Motley Fool's Dealing With Debt board}. Even if you don't want to post up a complete budget / statement of affairs in order to get advice, you can pick up a lot of good tips just by reading comments there.

heavenis · 05/05/2006 15:07

Do you have things around the house which you could sell,pushchairs,kids toys etc. You could do a car boot sale or try selling on e-bay.
It's hard but try not to get any more loans as you you can't borrow yourself out of debt. (i know been there got the t-shirt).
Make a list of everything you pay out.
Check your telewest contract and give them notice asap if you can get internet etc cheaper elsewhere.
Can you change you gas and electric cheaper with another company.
Cut up all your credit cards, keeping one for emerency use only.

overdraft · 05/05/2006 15:58

I have just found out how bad its got as dh has been doing the fiances for the last 7 years.I had p.n.d and handed them over.busybusybee the website is www.tradingstandards.gov.uk. if you can't get it i will do a link

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honeyflower · 05/05/2006 16:09

Is it essential to have 2 cars? They just eat money (as you're discovering!). Could you rethink regular journeys so that you manage with just one?

overdraft · 05/05/2006 16:12

It is.dh needs his for work and the school is 6 miles away.I do two school runs too.We moved here 6 months ago and I have a school at the top of my road and I can't get the children in.I have to drive past where I used to live to get there.We had to move house and away from that area too.

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overdraft · 05/05/2006 16:14

The school thing is really frustrating.My fuel used to be £57 a month when we were there and i know diesil has gone up but it is now £120 a month.Our motgage is more too.

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PinkKerPlink · 05/05/2006 16:16

ok, how do you do a budget plan?

overdraft · 05/05/2006 16:19

make an honest list of all your outgoing weekly/monthly and for each quarter.I am thinking that the quarters you x by 12 and then divide by 12 so you have per month.Then minus this from your income.Is this o.k. I like the idea of putting it in envelopes

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TinyGang · 05/05/2006 16:41

Use cash instead of cards. It seems to mean more if you see the hard cash ebbing away from your allowance.

We use a wipe off white board and put it up in the kitchen (I know very anal, but very effective). Be honest. Work out your months outgoings - utilities of course, but don't forget the little things like birthday presents you have to get that month, Brownies to pay for etc. Once all that is taken into account, give yourselves a weekly allowance out of what left and stick to it.

Cut corners where you can. As has been said, do packed lunches; if you have a takeaway treat, get it from the supermarket rather that a restaurant. Discover Lidl's, second hand clothes shops etc. There are loads of bargains out there to be had.

If it doesn't add up, leave whatever you can until next month and pay yourself a smaller allowance until it fits what you have coming in.

charliecat · 06/05/2006 16:50

Did you fill in a budget planner overdraft?

overdraft · 09/05/2006 13:02

Hi charliecat
Yes i did and it looks bleak.Think I am going to cancel the gas contract I have,dh is going to look into getting contact lenses on the internet.We are just gonna have to tighen our belts big time.I am going to do the envelope thing that is a great idea

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charliecat · 09/05/2006 13:05

:( Are you getting all the tax credits you ae entitled too? are you or dh spending the money before its in the bank? Have you stopped snacking out of the house bla de bla bla?

Bugsy2 · 09/05/2006 13:37

Over the years there have been so many fantastic threads on here about how to really hack back your expenditure. I'm sure if you could do a search & have a look at some of the tips, you could find ways of saving lots of money OD.
Good luck, I hope you can get back on track.

Kif · 09/05/2006 14:16

Kif's two big tips:

  1. Cash, cash, cash .

We're not in a hole - just running very close to the wind expenditure vs. outgoing. I and Dh did a budget a couple of months ago, where we figured out all our costs (nursery, rent, council tax, car tax, insurance, travelcard etc. etc.). Taking that away from our income gave us a first look at how 'tight' we were. Then we looked at a couple of weeks of receipts, and came to a weekly figure which comprised of the total what we thought was reasonable for food; pocket money (DH and me); and 'large' expenses like clothes, household appliances and such like. It took a bit of debate to set the figure. Obviously you want the budget to balance. However, it is vital that the figure is realistic. Slow and steady wins the race here.

The idea is then that we only use cash - never, ever cards. I withdraw the money every week, me and Dh share it. Weekly is best - then you always have next weeks money just round the corner.

Regular bills go out direct debit or cheque. Everything irregular goes cash. It requires to keep a bit of spare money 'forgotten' in the current account, but I find it much less depressing not to have to 'do' the budget every week. We just check once or twice a month on the internet banking/bill that have come in - mainly to make sure nothing has gone wrong. I try to lay some cash aside in a shoe box every week for large unexpected expenses, but I find that hard to do.

It has worked really, really well for us. One area where it has broken down, tbh, is holidays. They are generally to see family, but the flights and car hire always end up on the never, never. Everything else seems to work out - even if we've had our 'scrabble down the back of the sofa for pennies and eat lentils' weeks.

Which brings me onto Kif's second and equally important rule of budgeting

  1. Stay happy

I think budgeting is a bit like dieting - the more you think abuot what you're depriving yourself of the more you end up in the biscuit tin.

After a little adjustment, you do realise that a lot of the good things in life are free. Especially with the weather nice, we picnic in the park a lot. I find it more relaxing than a restaurant tbh, since I don't have to worry about behaviour, or being made to wait too long.

We live in london, and spend a lot of time in the museums - esp. natural history museum. I go down the market to do my shopping - a little bit more of a trip, but while I'm there I can take Dd to the 'pound shop', and the library, so I come home with bags of food and 'fun' for under twenty quid.

So long as you both stick to it, there is a big sense of achievement in sticking to the budget. I always feel 'clever' when I find cheaper options, or still have money at the end of the week.

I think that unless you can adapt your mindset to see the budgeting as a positive/family adventure/innocent childhood fun for your kids/impetus for a more wholesome lifestyle, you'll find it a real drag and drain.

Hope that helps!

Kif · 09/05/2006 14:32

And two more things - before really, really have to get back to work

  1. Don't panic.

Put some effort into working out your overall financial position, and how long it will take you to stabilise. Figure out your plan. Then stop worrying about the big picture. Just worry about making the budget balance week to week.

  1. In your position, the credit card bill is probably a large element of why you are in trouble. Reducing the amount outstanding will reduce your monthly expenditure, you money wasted and your debt all at once.

Understanding you can only afford minimum payment, I'd recomend you and Dh agree a 'formula' for dividing up earnings over and above your standard earnings (i.e. bonus, commission, extra ad-hoc work for friends, second job like a paper round, selling things etc etc.). I find that it is counter-motivational if any extra money you get goes straight to the bank. Me and Dh work on 'person who earns it keeps a third to spend as they wish - a third goes to savings - a third goes to family holidays'. Every little helps off the credit card, so if you can put in an extra ten or twenty here and there, it will reduce the length of time that you will be repaying the balance.

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