People with Depression are too "flakey" and prone to "lying" apparently.....

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to get a job.

Really makes me .

Bollox.

Who said that?

sorry but I PMSL at that comment - they obviously hadn't met me when I had depression - I was anything BUT flakey (right b*tchy cow) and freely spoke my mind..........

Yes, it didn't exactly stop me coming out with top grade A levels either

What does flakey actually mean? (genuine, not sarcasm)

GDG - oh but surely as you had depression you must have cheated or something.....

AFAIK, 'flakey' = sort of lazy, unlikely to stick at something, unreliable.

well, I was unreliable when I had depression, in a job sense. I kept breaking down and crying, or something like that. I had to live at home with my parents for some years, without a job. Wasn't prone to lying though.

I have never wanted the D-word to appear on my CV though, precisely because of this sort of thing. I am better now, so dont want to be seen as unreliable.

actually, it is incredible to anyone who has suffered from depression, but some people do seem to think that its caused by laziness. I certainly met that opinion. Am sometimes uncharitable enough to hope that they find out for themselves one day.

When depressed, self righteous opinionated over serious cow. NOT flaky, flaky would have been a serious improvement.

One in three people will suffer with some kind of mental illness in their lifetimes - why is there still such bollocks being spouted about it when it is so common?

Flakey was my comment, just so you can all have a go to my face so to speak. To me the word doesn't mean lazy and I also didn't say that depressives are liars. My prone-to-depression friend would definitely describe herself as flakey and when she was in the depths of her illness she freely admits that she couldn't have held a job down. Although no one who uses MN would ever lie about anything, many people do in fact lie on job applications and in job interviews. As so many people in the work place suffer from mental illness it follows that at least some of these people have lied to their employers.

flaky

(var sp. flakey) Subject to frequent lossage. This use is of course related to the common slang use of the word to describe a person as eccentric, crazy, or just unreliable. A system that is flaky is working, sort of — enough that you are tempted to try to use it — but fails frequently enough that the odds in favor of finishing what you start are low. Commonwealth hackish prefers dodgy or wonky.

Shoot me, but I think if I had sufferd from serious mental illness(and I haven't so am a hypocrite and this is hypothetical) but I doubt very much if I would put it on a job application form if I thought I could get away with not doing so....

As so many people in the work place suffer from mental illness it follows that at least some of these people have lied to their employers.

erm why does that follow? Perhaps it's just the (at last) many employers are now STOPPING discriminating against people with mental health issues????

It is well documented that the majority of people lie on job applications and in job interviews.

the majority???

More like 1/4, and of those most are not 'high profile'.

Inflated job titles, increased salaries and benefits, length of service and qualifications are the most common areas,

I think you will find that it is more than one in four and what do you class as high profile? I have no idea about the breakdown of lies told but I am sure that lying about a mental illness is not as rare as you seem to think.

Well I'm managing to run my home, look after DD during the day and work at night.

Don't think I'm 'flakey' or lie much. Usually pretty p'ed off most of the time though, so I feel justified in adding my 'bollox' to this.

\link{http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4167204.stm\here{ from last August.

gosh
DH has various mental health problems. He is, however, the most conscientious worker I know & frequently gets bonuses for taking no sick days in a year.
Depression doesn't necessarily make you a bad employee. IME, depressed individuals are just as often the most meticulous and hard working member of a team, depression often occurs in people who set extremely high standards for themselves. This is certainly the case for DH, and also myself.
It's not lying to not declare health problems if they don't affect your ability to do the job.

I have been dx'ed as clinically depressed for 4 years!!!

I have been out of work for 8 months of the 4 years to look after my 2 children, one of whom is SN.

I have never been "flakey" to my knowledge(don't get chance to be!!) and feel that i lead a particular normal life including working, paying my bills, caring for my kids etc...

Sometimes people will lie on an application, but they wont all suffer from depression!!!!!!!

Some people do it to further their career etc.... and others, well they probably do it without thinking!!!!

On the other hand, people that do suffer from depression that have lied on an application, may have done it for the purpose that they are trying to build a new life for themselves too frightened of being rejected or judged because of their past.

Butty.xxx

I know a man with bipolar disorder who is a neurosurgeon. And yes, the staff all know.

My ex has been treated for depression for 5 years now and is the owner of a successful business.

I have been treated twice for PND and managed to hold down two jobs.

Load of tosh!

Both my ex's believe working has REALLY helped their depression.

I've had depression and have to inform potential employers each time I apply for a new job or promotion because I have to complete an occupational health questionnaire. I find it difficult because it reminds me of painful times in my life but hasn't stopped me getting jobs and doing them well. I know that people do lie on applications and believe that this is because they are scared that if they tell the truth then they will be automatically disregarded from the selection process. The NHS is actually very good and doesn't do this.

WTF?!