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is 'drugging' my dd2 to sleep acceptable?

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misdee · 26/01/2006 21:12

HV was round yesterday. we've had problems with dd2 and sleep, and the GP has perscribed vallergan which has helped stop her screaming for 3hours each night. HV said 'oh so her sleeping isnt a problem then' but to my mind it is. i shouldnt have to sedate my dd2 each night. is it acceptable? GP said to use it for a short period only.

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sansouci · 26/01/2006 21:13

3 nights max, hopefully to establish a sleeping pattern.

LadySherlockofLGJ · 26/01/2006 21:15

Just off to have supper, but in reality it is a means to an end.

It is short term, will try and catch you tomorrow on MSN.

Lots of love

LGJ

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misdee · 26/01/2006 21:15

its been a while now. am lowering her dose to 2.5mls tomorrow

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misdee · 26/01/2006 21:16

its just the way she said it, when i said we were using vallergan, 'oh its not a problem then' errr yes it is.

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sansouci · 26/01/2006 21:16

If it's been awhile, misdee, then by all means get her off it gradually. My sympathy.

fairydust · 26/01/2006 21:18

If you'd have asked me this 3 months ago i'd say there's no way would i drug my child to sleep.

After having 3 weeks over xmas a child that only slept 2 hrs a night i ended up begging for drugs.

DD is on melaontin (sp?) and for us it's the best thing since sliced bread - as it means dd is better in herself me and dh are half human again.

No one likes to drug there kids but some time's there's a need.

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misdee · 26/01/2006 21:24

melatonin sounds good. dd2 is still drowsey during the day and has nodded off a couple of afternoons as well. not happy about her being on vallergan but it means i can get to bed before midnight now.

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sansouci · 26/01/2006 21:25

misdee or anyone else, pls check with paed before giving melatonin!!

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misdee · 26/01/2006 21:27

i wouldnt give anything without checking 1st. didnt think you could get it over here anyway. but we tried sleepy milk and that did help a bit, she was calmer and didnt scream as much.

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fairydust · 26/01/2006 21:27

my dd was prescribed her melantonin by a paed.

sparklymieow · 27/01/2006 00:02

I asked about melatonin today for dd1, the doctor said that it can be used for a few months but not long term, she also said that vallergan isn't too good because the child can built up immunation to it. Unfortunely melatonin isn't licenced yet and its still being trialled. She said that they given it to 2 groups, learning disabilities and AS. But you have to prove that you are trying to sort out their sleeping problems as well.

ShaysMummy · 27/01/2006 00:05

i was accidently drugging mine to sleep. for his teething, hv suggested medised followed by nurofen an hour later. it knocked him straight out. he went out like a light at 7.30. now he seems immune and is a total nightmare to put to bed again....

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misdee · 27/01/2006 23:10

didnt give her any vallergan tonight (i forgot) she is now wide awake.

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paolosgirl · 27/01/2006 23:29

Why do you have to check with a paed when you can buy it over the counter as a health supplement in the States?

noddyholder · 27/01/2006 23:37

My ds was a nightmare with sleep and we were offered anti histamines when he was one.They worked but when we stoppes them it was mayhem.We eventually gave him strong cold camomile tea and it really worked Give it a go HTH xxx Misdee you are a saint you put upwith so much

sansouci · 28/01/2006 13:41

My paed refused to let me give dd (5) & ds (2) melatonin when we travelled to Canada, even though there was a 9 hr time difference. He said that the effects of giving supplementary melatonin to children are unknown & could be harmful.

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misdee · 28/01/2006 14:22

bad bad night, not screeching but lots of waking.

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expatinscotland · 28/01/2006 15:17

Has she been examined to determine is there's some medical reason for her waking? Maybe to get to the root of the problem?

paolosgirl · 28/01/2006 18:12

I heard that melatonin would only work on kids/adults who don't produce enough themselves - so if you produce sufficient yourself, it won't help you get to sleep any quicker, but will if you don't , iykwim?

magnolia1 · 28/01/2006 18:16

one of our twins was having vallergan when her hips were in plaster. She had it for about 6 months and we gradually weaned her off it. I didn't like having to give it but it was the only way i got any sleep and kept my sanity.

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misdee · 28/01/2006 18:22

expat, she is suspected AS and is starting assessments. she has NEVER slept well.

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Davros · 28/01/2006 18:44

I would definitely try Melatonin and I've never heard of there being a problem using it long term. You have to get it here from a COnsultant, don't know why, but if you don't mind paying you can get it on the interweb.

expatinscotland · 28/01/2006 18:56

Aw, misdee. So sorry! I didn't know that.

Know two AS students who still use sedatives to help them sleep - and they're in their 20s now.

tegan · 28/01/2006 19:35

My dd is 21 months and had Vallergen last summer for 8 weeks and it worked a treat but when taken off it she became a nightmare so GP put her back on it nearly 2 weeks ago. We had to start on 2.5 ml and work up 2.5ml every night until she slept through. On thurdays she was on 25ml (a pre-op would be 40ml) so we have stopped it until monday, then see how she has slept over the weekend without it again.
I know it sounds awful to "drug" you're child but sometimes you need the rest yourself and they need the rest too.

blossom2 · 28/01/2006 19:47

god i feel desparate for some drugs and dd2 only wakes once or twice in the night and generally goes down at 7pm well ... but i'm REALLY exhausted and its having a bad effect on everyone in the family ..

so no, drugging your baby to sleep is not bad ..

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