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Is it right that disabled people should get free parking??

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SleepyJess · 19/09/2005 15:48

Discuss.. (please)

I am having this discussion elsewhere and amazed at some of the views. Just wanted to see what the general concesuss was on here.. without spouting my own views!

SJ x

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JoolsToo · 19/09/2005 22:10

do tell?

dh was telling me about a prisoner years ago who insisted on having his Daily Telegraph ironed and wanted to ask the judge if his fridge could be a character witness for him

completely true!

cod · 19/09/2005 22:11

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expatinscotland · 19/09/2005 22:11

Gotta love them Tories, eh, Jools!

JoolsToo · 19/09/2005 22:11

starshaker - foreign diplomats can park wherever they bloody well want!

Ulysees · 19/09/2005 22:11

ermm not commenting on whether disabled peeps should pay for parking as it shouldn't even be discussed IMO but think people (non disabled) who park in disabled bays in supermarkets should be wheelclamped, fined then flogged by me Unless it's parents with kids who do it accidentaly which I know can happen if they're very close but even so....

cod · 19/09/2005 22:11

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nannyjo · 19/09/2005 22:12

bloody hell give disabled people some slack, surely they would pay triple parking to swap being disabled. would you really begrudge people with disabilities free parking????

SleepyJess · 19/09/2005 22:12

Starshaker YES!

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JoolsToo · 19/09/2005 22:12

ep they get everywhere!

Davros · 19/09/2005 22:13

Starshaker, YES. BEcause some "benefits" are not means tested. As and when they are we will all have to rethink. For instance, access to special schools is by Statement only (except in exceptional circumstances). SOmeone said to me only last week "why doesn't X just pay for a place at the school blah blah", because you CAN'T, the system doesn't work that way!

misdee · 19/09/2005 22:13

[mutters about free parking for disabled people. what next, free parking for aliens?]

QueenOfQuotes · 19/09/2005 22:14

I've been thinking about this thread (and the BW one) this evening and TBH (as others have said) if we as a society begrudge people things which really are the 'little' things in life - which help to make their life better, then I think our soceity is going downhill even more than I thought .

As with most 'benefits' people may be entitle to throughout life there's always going to be some that abuse it.......but is it worth getting upset over that tiny minority, when in reality we know that the 99.99% of those getting them 'deserve' them.

I think it's already been made pretty clear both here and on BW, that while those who have children or parteners (or even themselves) with disabilities love their children/partners just as much as the rest of us. They would give the world for them to be 'normal' or 'well' and to be able to lead 'normal' lives.

I'm sitting here, still completely skint, no sign of any work for me yet (despite several applications) and bills to go out in 12 days time. However, I'm lucky as hell really, yesterday DS1 (5yrs old) and I walked for 45 minutes to go to a birthday party, and then 55 minutes back.

Why should I begrudge:

Misdee? Walking 100 meteres is a record for Peter.

Jimjams? I bet she'd give all her worldly possession to be able to walk her DS1 as far I did yesterday without any issues.

Thomcat? She'd love Lottie to be able to cope with stuff like my DS1 can.

All the other mum's on the SN board.

My mum? 10yrs ago she was still climbing Monroes (scottish mountains). Now walking from the car to the house is a real struggle for her.

all this 'equal opportunities' stuff is utter cr*p. Soceity as a whole shouldn't even need to think about helping those around them. But no! some people think that they should recieve the same 'benefits' as the next person, regardless of situation.

Ulysees · 19/09/2005 22:14

misdee, aliens should pay as their spaceships are very big. Well the last one that abducted me was

QueenOfQuotes · 19/09/2005 22:16

"but think people (non disabled) who park in disabled bays in supermarkets should be wheelclamped, fined then flogged by me "

The Wellingborough Matalan now has a sign up in the carpark (which used to be totally free, but is now £1 to park - though you get that back if you buy something at the shop, it's close to town so people abused it) saying that anyone found parking in a disabled parking space without a blue badge is liable to a fine and/or to be clamped /

And I did actually see a car being clamped the other week

soapbox · 19/09/2005 22:16

Starshaker - yes!
Say he is physically disabled, it may be impossible for him/her to commute on trains, they might need to park very close to work as can't walk far or carry files or whatever!

The fact is that circumstances dictate how people with disabilities travel - the full range of choices are not available to them. If a bit of free parking facilitates this (and often the disabled parking is more about the convenience of location as well) then so beit!

They might as well ask - there someone with no disabilities that wants to travel by train should the taxpayer subsidise it. Or someone who's not clever enough to be a lawyer should we subsidise their kids schooling, their housing costs, their childcare costs, pay tax credits. Thats what being a welfare state means FGS!

Shall I just say, oh well bugger the lot of you - I'm keeping all my dosh to myself and if you can't earn enough to be completely self sufficinet, housing, schooling, roads, trains, defense etc, then tough luck!!!!

Ulysees · 19/09/2005 22:18

Yay!!! for Matalan Wonder if they'll give me that job? (clamping)

misdee · 19/09/2005 22:19

when peter leaves in ahurry to get to transplant unit because a call has come in, we dont think about money for the car park. we just worry about him getting there asap. badge stays in the car or his mum carries it for him as atm she picks him up and drops him off.

hunkermunker · 19/09/2005 22:20

Just read Cod's post as "pubic servant"...

soapbox · 19/09/2005 22:22

Hunker - no that's Mr Cod you're thinking of

SleepyJess · 19/09/2005 22:24

Sigh. Now they think you're trolls. Knew this would happen.

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Milge · 19/09/2005 22:24

err, yes, of course they should get free parking. I can't understand why the subject is up for debate.

hunkermunker · 19/09/2005 22:28

Dear lord BW's slow to load!

Must be all the tickers...

Caligula · 19/09/2005 22:29

It's very interesting that anyone has bothered to question this. I think it's an indication of just how harsh and unempathetic society has become in the last thirty years or so.

You could apply this to almost any vulnerable group in society. Attitudes have become "bunch of f**king nuisances" rather than "there but for the grace of God go I".

Wonder what happened?

monkeytrousers · 19/09/2005 22:31

Caligula, it's almost like Thatcher was right, there is no society only selfsh individuals..I paraphrase

Jimjams · 19/09/2005 22:31

It's dreadfully slow isn't it!

Well I'm off to bed

night!