Who is Vaunda? Name keeps creeping into active convo's today and I haven't the chance to read up on them!

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Please fill me in!!

jesus - he's not now is he? fgs let the boy be a boy not a 'adult' there's enough time for that later on, I didn't even know about polotics till I was about 12/13 - and even then didn't really take an intrest.

I don't think it is at all 'healthy' for a young boy of 3 to know about 9/11 either, why should he be burdened with the monstrosities of this world at such an early age. I would be having nightmares so young, in fact I do now at 24 when I hear about bombings, terrorism, tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes etc etc. Why can't kids be kids?

agreed chloe55.

SuzyWong

Raspberry ????

Lord - that prro child is NEVER going to be able to sever those apron strings from his mummy is he? Pity the poor boy when he brings a girlfriend home!

can't be right can it - discussing budgets and food bills etc and finances with ur child at 3? - ahem no I don't think so, there's no way our children are going to have an 'equal' say in our finances, perhaps the shoppine etc they can pick one item each but not decorating etc (unless they're older and it's their room) and certainly no news for them - we can watch that once they're in bed.

noooo i left anotgher message bpoard place because of a Vaunda...surely this is the same one? noooooooooooo

what she was on another board Which one Go on tell us

stacijc .... stacijc ...come back! dont leave til youve posted us a link to the other place

Erm ... do you not think it's a bit mean to be talking about another poster like this? OK, so she has some pretty unorthodox parenting methods and I don't agree with a lot of the things she says, but hey, it's her right to bring her child up as she sees fit, just like the rest of us. And if she's got it wrong then it'll come back and bite her on the bum later on - just like the rest of us. We might not like some of the things that she has allowed her son to see and understand, but calling her names like "moronic" and some of the other things that have been said to and about her isn't really in the spirit of Mumsnet, is it? Because if it is then I really can't say that I like Mumsnet much anymore.

Well said wwb.

totally agree WWB. Found the attempted meeting between her and marslady most unsettling. salam witch trials came to mind.

Wigwam bam

I agree, i really don't see why (other than she has kept cool)why she's been so put through the mill

OK well I am Vaunda, I do not Dispute the fact that i parent my son in a way that most parents wouldn't dream of. he is allowed his opinion on the majority of things we as a family do. He is included when we decorate after all he has to live here to and I like him to feel comfortable in his environment. He Is included in the shopping budget etc as i feel this not only helps his maths but also makes him realise that money does not grow on trees. His knowledge of hurricaines etc assist him in his science and topic work. He does excel at reading, maybe because i have always spoken to him and read to him from the day he was born. i have never used baby talk with him a dog was a dog not a woof woof. a horse was a horse not a gee gee, i think you get the idea. Now i know many parents prefer to use simpler terms but that was not my way of doing things. He was around adults from birth not only family but freinds. he attended his first gig at the age of 3 weeks when his father played at a friends wedding, again not everyones idea of what to do but it is what we chose to do. He went to his first restaurant on his first xmas at the age of 5 months and continued to regularly go sometimes 3-5 times a week depending on how often we were invited.

I do not criticise anyones way of raising their children after all we are all individuals and so are children and whilst as parents we must guide them we should allow them to grow into their own person. I have always allowed him to make his own decisions or have an input into any decision made. Again this is just my way of raising my son not how i would expect anyone else to raise their child.

Why did you wait 5 months to take him to a restaurant if you normally go 3-5 times a week?

(just curious)

Morning paper, his father and i did not really go out together, our relationship was bad.... we only went to gigs together and even then after having my son that was not often. I went when he was 5 months as we were invited as a family.

Also before having him i really only went out if now ex was playing a gig, it was after having him and people realising just how bad life was for me with his father that they began to invite me and lil one out without his father. When we eventually split the trips out became more frequent.

Can't believe people are getting so worked up about this. FGS she's not beating her son, or abusing him. She's just bringing him up as she sees fit - maybe her decisions are unusual but hey, that's allowed.

PS my parents were politically active and discussed politics with us from a young age - taught me to sing Maggie Thatcher milk snatcher in the playground - but I didn't grow up to be a weirdo (or an MP), just well-informed.

Oh.
My.
Gawd!!!
I started reading the Vaunda thread at 8.30pm, thinking ''how long can it be...''
Is it still September or .....
I give up now, my eyes hurt and I need wine. Thank you to all concerned for the most entertaining thread ever. As I couldn't join in at the time, may I summarise my feelings throughout this epic now through the magic medium of emoticons? In no particular order . There. Night all
xx

Everyone has the right to bring up their child how they want. V has talked about how she does it - I havent read any post from her where she has said "and if you dont do it the same way you are a bad parent" or any form of judgement at all! (although its a bloody long thread, so I accept I may have missed great chunks of it - and I think I possibly dozed off at one point!!)

We are all entitled to raise our children as we see fit, and this is a great place to debate the pros and cons of our individual approach, even to say things like I think that X is a better aproach than Y because .... But what I think is wrong, is personal abuse.

"I don't agree with that point of view because...", is fine, good, great, healthy debate. "You are a moron for having that point of view", or other assorted insults and sarcastic comments is, in my humble view, totally unnecessary.

mytwopenceworth,
thankyou. I do not see many parents as bad except maybe 2 i know (not on here) and one of them last night left her 8 yr old DD and almost 3 yr old DS alone so she could go out. I saw her in the street and told her she was irresponsible and needed to go home to her babies.... afterall thats all they are.

Jesus Vaunda, that's awful, I think I would have commented too - she should be bloody reported, horrid woman!

Yawn

Everyone still enjoying the wee witch hunt are they???!

Vaunda - How's your friend?

I'm sorry I'm a little confused? Witch hunt? Please explain.