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12 week old at wits end

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yvonneb13 · 30/04/2023 21:33

I have a 12 week old son who I love he is the best thing that's ever happened to me but it's a lot
Day 3 he came home screamed for 8 hours straight they said it was wind but infacol done worked for a bit every night since between 7-9 he screams bloody murder like you are murdering him like he is severe pain i asked doctor last week and they said he might have silent reflux because of the symptoms not working apart from making his poos harder although he has stopped gagging. Like I say I love him but I've had to leave the house I'm sitting in my car crying but I honestly do not know what to do he is screaming. I've checked nappy he's not hungry he is breaking ALOT of wind. Im just at my wits end it's been like this every night since he was 3 days old and I need a break DH is amazing he doesn't get stressed but he works away so he only has to deal with this at the weekend. Any advice would be appreciated I've used infacol colif Dentoix I even bought a calpol plug in and humidifier cause he sometimes gets a stuffy nose. HELP ME PLEASE AS IM SITTING IN MY CAR CRYING. Only other thing I can think of is lip tie? He is 100% not tounge tied he sticks his tongue out so far he is also eating his hands and dribbling alot I thought teething? But surly not
I just don't know I'm fine all day but I dread the evenings so much and in laws and my parents are dying to watch him overnight but I can't bare to put they through that even tho I need the break. It seems tho about half 9 he goes to sleep and he's fine waking up at 4-5 for a bottle and that back to sleep till half 7 or half 8. Does anyone know what's going on or is this what you call colic? Sorry for the long
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Hugasauras · 30/04/2023 21:35

Is it just those two hours? The witching hours can be rough. My DD2 would often be very unsettled and very upset between around 7-10pm. It stopped not long after three months. If he's happy the rest of the time I would think maybe being overtired/witching hour.

yvonneb13 · 30/04/2023 21:36

Hugasauras · 30/04/2023 21:35

Is it just those two hours? The witching hours can be rough. My DD2 would often be very unsettled and very upset between around 7-10pm. It stopped not long after three months. If he's happy the rest of the time I would think maybe being overtired/witching hour.

Yep form 7 till about 9 or 10 then he falls asleep so is this normal? I'm a FTM and it scares me every day.
He's such a happy baby all day apart from the odd cry nappy bottle ect..

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yvonneb13 · 30/04/2023 21:37

Also he is a good napper during the day so I didn't think he was over tired maybe not long enough I think its about an hour - hour and a half at a time

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Itsanotherhreatday · 30/04/2023 21:39

You need to keep him upright all day and all night head above aromach

Raise the cot with a towel underneath r
Pop him up with a pillow during nappy changes

Sit him in a bouncer,

On your shoulder after feeding

What he has is a stomach muscle that’s under developed and is causing acid to leak into his windpipe when laid flat.

This will correct itself at around 6 months when sitting properly

I would hazard a guess you has bad heartburn when pregnant??

Itsanotherhreatday · 30/04/2023 21:39

You’ll see a huge difference in 3 days

tiredmumma8696 · 30/04/2023 21:40

This is very normal (although really tough to deal with at the time). My boy was exactly the same.

Even though you are sure it's not tongue tie I would still get it checked as once we had ours snipped at 3 months things got a lot better.

We found the tiger in the tree hold really helpful to settle him. I think it's something about the pressure on their belly.

Ps you are doing a great job mumma and things will get easier Flowers

yvonneb13 · 30/04/2023 21:41

Itsanotherhreatday · 30/04/2023 21:39

You need to keep him upright all day and all night head above aromach

Raise the cot with a towel underneath r
Pop him up with a pillow during nappy changes

Sit him in a bouncer,

On your shoulder after feeding

What he has is a stomach muscle that’s under developed and is causing acid to leak into his windpipe when laid flat.

This will correct itself at around 6 months when sitting properly

I would hazard a guess you has bad heartburn when pregnant??

What is that? Never heard of it I do keep upright his cot is already tilted and he sits in bouncer when not sleeping. I had horrendous heartburn one point I thought I was having a heart attack (might be dramatic) but it cut the breath from me. Had to get stuff off doctors

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LLMS2022 · 30/04/2023 21:41

My baby did this for 5 hours every night, you have my sympathies it was incredibly difficult, I cant remember how many weeks the colic lasted. The 'tiger in the tree' hold seemed to help her, and me and my DH used to take it in turns carrying her in the sling on the treadmill. These were the only things that stopped her crying. I remember vividly the sense of dread I used to feel as the evening approached. It nay feel like it will never end but I promise you they will grow out of it, hang in there

sleepsforwimps1 · 30/04/2023 21:41

All mine had times they would cry constantly for no apparent reason. My last one it was about 5pm. It doesn't seem like it now but it will pass. Take all the help you can get from in-laws, parents, friends, you don't have to do it all. You need to look after yourself too so you can look after him. It will get better though. My first two didn't stop screaming for six months, second two it stopped by about four months. It's hard at the time but it gets easier

Blossom45 · 30/04/2023 21:42

Mine had a witching hour (or 2-3 hours!) in the evening too in the first few months - it seems to be fairly normal baby behaviour. As another poster said, if it’s just those couple of hours it’s likely to be the same. It’s pretty rough when you’re in the thick of it but it does pass.

yvonneb13 · 30/04/2023 21:43

tiredmumma8696 · 30/04/2023 21:40

This is very normal (although really tough to deal with at the time). My boy was exactly the same.

Even though you are sure it's not tongue tie I would still get it checked as once we had ours snipped at 3 months things got a lot better.

We found the tiger in the tree hold really helpful to settle him. I think it's something about the pressure on their belly.

Ps you are doing a great job mumma and things will get easier Flowers

Did you just go to GP I keep seeing people say they don't take it seriously. He does look like what I see lie tie is but I honestly have no idea. Like the peice of flesh is right to where is teeth should be? He takes in so much air I feel even tho we use mam anti colic bottles. And I try to pace feed but he guzzles and glups it all the time.

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yvonneb13 · 30/04/2023 21:45

Thank you for all your replies I'm just sitting in my car I couldn't take it I love him so much I care bare to see him like This i dread it every single night without fail I hate the evenings and I feel so bad for saying it because he is my rainbow and so wanted and all I want to do is make him feel better. DH is amazing tho completely opposite from me just so calm but like I say he only needs to deal with it 2 days a week

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lifehappens12 · 30/04/2023 21:49

I don't know how you are coping at 12 weeks. My first had evening colic that started at 2 weeks and it had passed by about 7 weeks. I used to dread the evening coming and the screaming starting.

Things we did:
Changed milk
Changed bottles
Used infacol
Saw a craniologist (my son was a ventouse birth)
Started an early Bath and bed routine from 5 weeks in case he was over tired.

When my son was crying - often holding him didn't help. Lying him on his changing mat did seem to work.

Lastly - do you have a dummy? Would he use one for comfort?

Coffeeandbourbons · 30/04/2023 21:53

Breathe mumma 💐

My first was the same. She would not stop screaming. What helped:

  1. don’t let them lie flat. Hold upright after milk for at least 20 minutes and raise the head of the cot mattress with a folded blanket so they’re lying slightly downhill.
  2. Infant Gaviscon for reflux (ask GP)
  3. Putting headphones in with some happy music on as you walk him up and down during the crying. He won’t know you can’t hear him and it will be a little bit less stressful for you
  4. every day, at least 3 times, take him into a pitch black room after a feed/change and rock and sing to him quietly until he drops off. It will take she’s the first few times then get faster. Babies get very over stimulated throughout the day resulting in the evening meltdown. The dark will ‘reset’ him and help stop this

I now have DS as well who is 5 weeks, we’re reaching the peak of the crying now so ready to jump in with the above if I have to!!!

Coffeeandbourbons · 30/04/2023 21:53

*ages not shes

tiredmumma8696 · 30/04/2023 21:54

@yvonneb13
We did go to the GP and they diagnosed it and referred us. The wait was really long at the time so we had it snipped privately within a few days as I was convinced that was what was wrong,

If he's taking in lots of air that definitely won't be helping things. Some baby massage can help relieve wind (lots of videos on YouTube) xx

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 30/04/2023 21:57

It's the witching hour. My son was horrendous with it. Pram walks in the fresh air helped and rocking to white noise. It was horrific for me at the time but I got through it and you will too.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 30/04/2023 21:58

Also have u tried putting him in a carrier. And if you are lucky enough to have relatives willing to help accept the help!!!!! You need rest xx

ZeppelinTits · 30/04/2023 22:03

Please let your willing relatives help and give you a break. This part is so hard and if you have people desperate to help you just need to let them and accept the help. You need some respite! Don't try and be a hero. Your baby will be fine with them and you'll be able to have a little breather. This will pass, I promise.

mysparkleismissing · 30/04/2023 22:05

Hi. If you can try some cranial osteopathy I'm a nanny and I've seen it work wonders with newborns, other great advice here too
Don't forget your hormones are still awol as well so give yourself a break xx
Good luck

liveforsummer · 30/04/2023 22:08

This is normal, at least with my 2 dc it was. Colic/reflux meds you can buy in a shop have limited to no effect , prescription meds can have other side effects that also cause crying so I didn't bother replacing one symptom for another. Keeping upright during and after feeds, lots of winding might help a small amount plays learning massage techniques but mostly I'm afraid it's something to ride out unless you start noticing further symptoms that might suggest an intolerance

VivaVivaa · 30/04/2023 22:10

Another vote for awful, but sadly normal (in that it’s not due to a medical problem). DS screamed for 2-4 hours every night for weeks on end. You could pretty much time your watch to it. It pushed me to PND so you have my sympathy. It had mostly passed by 4 months.

DelurkingAJ · 30/04/2023 22:14

Don’t panic, it’s within the bounds of normal. We went for a lot of walks in the dark with DS1 in a sling in the hope that he would settle and sleep. My DMIL relates sending DFIL out with DBIL in the car to drive round town as that worked for them.

Topi226 · 30/04/2023 22:47

Yes my son and my sisters son had the same problem.
Always crying same time every night. I know witching hour is definitely a thing but I could just see by his face and cry it was a pained one.
I'm not sure what milk you are on but we switched to cow and gate comfort milk. It's less lactose. Easier to digest and helps with colic. They also do an anti reflux milk. Honestly after 48 hours I had a completely different baby. He was back to being happy.
My sister tried the same milk but it wasn't enough to help so she's also switched to Dr Brown bottles (expensive but made a massive difference) then gripe water in every bottle. The stuff is amazing and she also has baby gaviscon from the Dr and he's not a lot better. He used to cry all fsu everyday so I'm glad its worked for her.
For me the milk change was a life saver.

Topi226 · 30/04/2023 22:49

Sorry meant he IS a lot better