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Is it ok for a Christian to say 'God Bless' to a Muslim?

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thankyouforthedayz · 10/11/2024 07:52

I'm a Christian and I feel I have more in common spiritually with other people of faith (particularly other People of the Book ie Abrahamic faiths) than people who have no or nominal faith. I will often say "God bless" (ie God Bless you") or "Gods hand is on X " to Christian friends/family, but would Muslim people be offended if I said this to them? I believe there is one God but different paths. I wonder if I should revert, as I whilst I love Jesus Christ as a prophet, a spiritual man committed to social justice in a time when people of faith were oppressed by pagans (Romans) I find it hard to believe the literal truth of the Virgin Birth and Resurrection (though I believe in them as powerful metaphors).
I work in the NHS with lots of Muslim colleagues. I have asked, and she was so kind and accepting and said she felt happy for me to say it, but I think she was speaking as a kind friend rather than theologically.

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HundredAcreOwl · 10/11/2024 22:08

Scirocco · 10/11/2024 20:58

Anyone posting with respect and sensitivity is welcome, no need to apologise! It can be tricky because the board still appears in 'Active' so people often post without realising the board.

I am not Muslim, I believe in no religion. I have posted on one thread here, to try to help a young woman.

I am learning a lot from the discussions here, it would be helpful if they did not go into trending, not sure about active, you will be more aware than I am.

Is there parity with other religions re trending and active?

Scirocco · 10/11/2024 22:12

HundredAcreOwl · 10/11/2024 22:08

I am not Muslim, I believe in no religion. I have posted on one thread here, to try to help a young woman.

I am learning a lot from the discussions here, it would be helpful if they did not go into trending, not sure about active, you will be more aware than I am.

Is there parity with other religions re trending and active?

Hi, no, not all the minority groups' or religious groups' boards are treated the same. It was harder to get this board set up at all, the visibility is different, there are different messages at the top of different boards, and despite repeated requests to not appear in 'trending/active' this board still does (and I believe some others do too).

JustBrowsingTheWeb · 10/11/2024 22:22

I really don’t think anyone needs to hide their religion or “leave it at home.” It’s a huge part of who you are. Be yourself, say God bless if you like, I don’t mind if anyone from any religion blesses me in any way. I appreciate the intent and would be grateful as most people would.

HundredAcreOwl · 10/11/2024 22:31

Scirocco · 10/11/2024 22:12

Hi, no, not all the minority groups' or religious groups' boards are treated the same. It was harder to get this board set up at all, the visibility is different, there are different messages at the top of different boards, and despite repeated requests to not appear in 'trending/active' this board still does (and I believe some others do too).

May I add my support to any request you make to stay out of areas which attract unhelpful comments? Over the last few weeks on this board, I have come to understand much better a female view of the Muslim faith, which I really welcome, and respect.

sparklyfox · 10/11/2024 23:19

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 20:57

Gods don't belong in any workplace that isn't a religious setting - keep any religious thoughts to yourself. You can use your faith to help you get through your challenges, but don't* *offer it to others.

Edited

Only in particularly brutal dictatorships is sharing your faith prohibited by law. Thank God that's not the case in the UK, where we have freedom of thought and speech. This is your opinion and preference, but the law doesn't support you here.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 11/11/2024 06:36

JustBrowsingTheWeb · 10/11/2024 22:22

I really don’t think anyone needs to hide their religion or “leave it at home.” It’s a huge part of who you are. Be yourself, say God bless if you like, I don’t mind if anyone from any religion blesses me in any way. I appreciate the intent and would be grateful as most people would.

Religion doesn't belong in the workplace, unless it's a religious workplace (church, mosque, religious school) - keep it private.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 11/11/2024 06:39

sparklyfox · 10/11/2024 23:19

Only in particularly brutal dictatorships is sharing your faith prohibited by law. Thank God that's not the case in the UK, where we have freedom of thought and speech. This is your opinion and preference, but the law doesn't support you here.

It's about basic courtesy - nobody needs to share their faith, or lack of, with random people.

TISSHA · 11/11/2024 06:48

wateraddict · 10/11/2024 08:21

Contrary to many views on this thread, I don't mind when people wish me well in any way. I am atheist and have received heartfelt wishes of blessings from my Christian and Hindu friends. Don't try to convert me or tell me life is the will of a higher power, but if you wish others the blessings of a higher power, it tells me more about you and your care for others. Your care is much appreciated.

Totally agree.

It is a person expressing their care for another. Please don’t tarnish their personal expression of kindness and love, even if you don’t have the same beliefs.

Respect that they are offering kindness, in their most meaningful way, even if it doesn’t mean the same to you.

It’s really not worth getting upset over. See it as a turn of phrase. Some people say ‘bye’, some say ‘cheerio’, some say ‘go well’.

It’s just words coming from a good place.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 11/11/2024 06:59

TISSHA · 11/11/2024 06:48

Totally agree.

It is a person expressing their care for another. Please don’t tarnish their personal expression of kindness and love, even if you don’t have the same beliefs.

Respect that they are offering kindness, in their most meaningful way, even if it doesn’t mean the same to you.

It’s really not worth getting upset over. See it as a turn of phrase. Some people say ‘bye’, some say ‘cheerio’, some say ‘go well’.

It’s just words coming from a good place.

Gods don't belong in a secular workplace, other in your own personal thoughts. Consider that my feelings also come from 'a good place'.
As an ex-person of faith I know it's completely possible to keep faith private at work, and it makes for a better workplace. Every time you say 'god bless' or some other 'blessing' in a workplace you're forcing your view on an atheist - causing them to focus on not responding/responding politey, instead of on the job in hand! I'm glad your faith makes you happy, and adds a dimension to your life, and have no wish to take that away or prevent it - just don't force it on me! It's quite simple.
I know that a lot of religions promote sharing faith, by all means do that, just not in a workplace.

SweetSugarPlum · 11/11/2024 07:39

thankyouforthedayz · 10/11/2024 08:12

@Hoogieflip it's a way of expressing care, sympathy, Gods will. I think it's the Christian equivalent of 'Inshallah'.

I’m not a Muslim so not intended for me but I came to say I was a customer and the worker said that to my son, i received it as kindness so I’d assume had I said “god bless you” back it would also be received the same way. However I’d now like to know from a Muslims pov!

JustBrowsingTheWeb · 11/11/2024 09:21

Don’t agree with this it’s like being gay and being told to keep it at home, it’s part of who you are people should be able to live openly and be tolerant of each other.

JustBrowsingTheWeb · 11/11/2024 09:23

DieStrassensindimmernass · 11/11/2024 06:36

Religion doesn't belong in the workplace, unless it's a religious workplace (church, mosque, religious school) - keep it private.

Don’t agree with this it’s like being gay and being told to keep it at home, it’s part of who you are people should be able to live openly and be tolerant of each other.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 11/11/2024 09:27

JustBrowsingTheWeb · 11/11/2024 09:23

Don’t agree with this it’s like being gay and being told to keep it at home, it’s part of who you are people should be able to live openly and be tolerant of each other.

No, it isn't.
Being gay isn't a belief system.
Nice try though.

JustBrowsingTheWeb · 11/11/2024 11:01

DieStrassensindimmernass · 11/11/2024 09:27

No, it isn't.
Being gay isn't a belief system.
Nice try though.

We ALL have beliefs. If you believe in the Big Bang theory that’s a belief, if you believe in evolution that’s a belief, should we lock up these beliefs too and never share any ideas? Many people will feel that their religion is part of who they are, they do not need to leave that at the work gates. Jeez height of snowflakeism getting offended by someone say “god bless” I’ve never known such intolerance.

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/11/2024 11:11

Well no, Big bang and evolution are facts, not theories or ideas.

JustBrowsingTheWeb · 11/11/2024 11:28

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/11/2024 11:11

Well no, Big bang and evolution are facts, not theories or ideas.

Nope, their theories. That’s why it’s called “the big bang theory” and the “theory of evolution.”

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/11/2024 11:33

May have been, once upon a time. Far as I’m aware, only reference to “theory” any more is in an American sitcom. Evolution is proven beyond doubt.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 11/11/2024 11:37

JustBrowsingTheWeb · 11/11/2024 11:01

We ALL have beliefs. If you believe in the Big Bang theory that’s a belief, if you believe in evolution that’s a belief, should we lock up these beliefs too and never share any ideas? Many people will feel that their religion is part of who they are, they do not need to leave that at the work gates. Jeez height of snowflakeism getting offended by someone say “god bless” I’ve never known such intolerance.

I'm not sure you quite understand the use or meaning of the word 'theory' in a scientific context. Theory doesn't just mean that's what we 'think' something is, it means that something is a highly reasonable, plausible, and at least partly provable explanation for why something happens. Faith is a completely different concept. People are free to choose and follow whatever faith; or religion they like, or to follow none, in their own time. There is no need to bring it to a work environment, other than in your own unvoiced thoughts throughout the day (if it brings you comfort).

DieStrassensindimmernass · 11/11/2024 11:38

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/11/2024 11:33

May have been, once upon a time. Far as I’m aware, only reference to “theory” any more is in an American sitcom. Evolution is proven beyond doubt.

I think pp doesn't understand how the word theory is used scientifically.

LadyGabriella · 11/11/2024 11:38

AgileGreenSeal · 10/11/2024 20:22

Therefore by your own words you believe those children went to hell?

I said no such thing.
Please do not put words in my mouth.

Since you have stated in another post that people sharing my beliefs “are nuts” and advise against engaging with us I will save you the trouble.
I won’t be engaging any further with you. Have a good day.

You came onto a Muslim mumsnetters thread to quote the only way to the Lord is through Jesus Christ. Give your head a wobble. The lord wouldn’t look favourably on your unkindness.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 11/11/2024 11:41

LadyGabriella · 11/11/2024 11:38

You came onto a Muslim mumsnetters thread to quote the only way to the Lord is through Jesus Christ. Give your head a wobble. The lord wouldn’t look favourably on your unkindness.

I'm an atheist.
I respect people's rights to belief, but I don't respect the preachy type evangelicals. Nobody actually knows that their way is the only way - I'd like to think that if there were a divine power controlling the universe then they'd accept that people could meet him/her in different ways.

SilverChampagne · 11/11/2024 11:54

Poetics · 10/11/2024 08:51

When my son had taken an OD, a nurse in A&E asked him why he had done it and told him that God loves him. I found it offensive in that context. Very offensive.

I don’t see the offence here.

NewGreenDuck · 11/11/2024 11:57

SilverChampagne · 11/11/2024 11:54

I don’t see the offence here.

Of course it's offensive. It's completely inappropriate for a HCP to bring religion into the situation. By this token where will it end?
Bringing their own morality into any situation? Can you not see where that leads?

Poetics · 11/11/2024 11:58

He needed a fucking ventilator, not Jesus. Jesus had been no help to him.
The nurse was there to provide emergency care, not preach her personal religious beliefs.

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/11/2024 11:59

SilverChampagne · Today 11:54

Poetics · Yesterday 08:51
When my son had taken an OD, a nurse in A&E asked him why he had done it and told him that God loves him. I found it offensive in that context. Very offensive.
I don’t see the offence here

I do.
A young man in the depths of despair being questioned by a medic? Politics/religion and judgement have no place in a professional setting.