Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poet's Department - album discussion thread

[OldHabitsDieScreaming]

Hello Swifties! Thought I would start a thread to chat about TS11 or TTPD or whatever we're calling it 😁Don't know about you but the excitement is building for this old-enough-to-know-better Swiftie and I'll be taking the long way into work tomorrow so I can listen to it in Peace...(see what I did there?)

So this thread is for anyone who loves TS and wants to talk/think/muse/swoon over the newest output from the hardest-working woman in music!

Personally I'm intrigued and delighted that Aaron Dessner seems to have co-writing credits on several tracks - I'm a committed Folklore/Evermore fan and more in a similar vein will be very welcome!

(Oh, and while hopefully this doesn't need saying, please don't bother posting to say how shit/overrated/talentless you think TS is. This is a fan / appreciation thread about a specific piece of work and it would be lovely to keep it that way.)

@SummaLuvin yes true…. But she wasn’t rebounding off the back of a long term relationship with Jake. Something about Matt makes me not take him seriously. Although thinking about it, she did say ‘I love you’ to him on stage didn’t she! God, I had not considered the idea of this being a Matt Healy album! Madness.

@ChampagneNightmares 100% agree. The first time I heard Maroon I was like, oh, did she break up with Joe? Then I heard The Great War and was like, oh ok, they did break up and got back together. Of course it turns out they had broken up! So in my head Midnights has always been the Joe break up album, meaning that TTPD is a bit of a mystery to me.

(although based on the above I’m now convinced it’s about Matt Healy and I’m frankly shooketh)

It's exciting to think that by this time tomorrow we'll all have a ton of new songs to (hopefully!) love. Roll on 5am!

@OldHabitsDieScreaming yesss. I’ve already ranked them in order of which ones I think will be my favourites based on titles alone. Yes, I have too much time on my hands 😂

As a devoted fan of Folklore and Evermore I am crossing everything for more of the same!

Ooh what’s your order? Pure nosiness 😂

@Igotjelly please bare in mind this is based on literally nothing but pure delusional instinct and will undoubtably prove to be wrong 😂

1. So Long, London
2. Who's Afraid of Little Old Me?
3. I Can Do It with a Broken Heart
4. The Alchemy
5. Fortnight
6. The Tortured Poets Department
7. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys
8. Clara Bow
9. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
10. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
11. Down Bad
12. Guilty as Sin?
13. Florida!!!
14. Loml
15. Fresh Out the Slammer
16. But Daddy I Love Him

Forcing myself to go to sleep so I can wake at 5.

What are we thinking loml stands for?

Love of my life?
Loss of my life?
Loss of my love?
Last of my letters?
Maybe it changes throughout the song, which is why the title is just the initials? Like the subject of the song goes from the biggest love of her life to the biggest loss of her life or something.

@TTPD

Love of my life.

It's about Meredith.

Also, My Boy Only Breaks His Favourite Toys is about Benjamin.

(I read a joke about how she should write some songs about her cats and it's been living rent free in my head ever since. And she did once refer to Meredith as the love of her life in an interview)

Heirloom turkey?

I'm hoping Amazon music will have it straight away!

OMG she did THIS didn’t she, when she was announcing TTPD!!
It HAS to be TWO albums, surely??

Checking in!

Lots of rumours that the album will not be about Joe but Matt from that group (of Matty perhaps)'

Not really interested in her private life but I adore her music!

😮😮😮 I didn't notice that! Omg .. maybe!!

So would that mean the new album announces the best album?

Or could it be Rep (Taylor's Version)?

I've just listened to Fortnight twice. Can't believe she's releasing this as a single. This is going to to get interesting!

I have nothing of real value to contribute other than that I got up at 5 to listen and I just love it so much.

I Can Do It With a Broken Heart is incredible.

Arrrrggghhhh! I am three songs in and not disappointed! I think its a good mix of Folklore/Evermore and Midnights type style. What do we all think?

I just finished it. My favourites always change after a few listens but so far my favourite ones are Guilty as sin, I can do it with a broken heart, My boy only breaks his favourite toys, Florida, and loml.

The alchemy is about Travis, right?

There are a few I think are about Matty Healy - definitely But daddy I love him, also The tortured poets department, and I can fix him. And also maybe Down bad?

I felt like this album got better the further through I got. I wasn't massively keen on the first two songs, Fortnight or The Tortured Poets Department. I'll probably have new favourites by the end of the day, but I don't think it's going to be one of my favourite albums of hers.

Just finished a first listen.

Sonically I haven't found it that exciting.

But lyrically this is a lot. This feels very raw and confessional. And there are just so many words to process.

There's another countdown on Taylor's IG ending at 7am UK time so something else is happening!

If Fresh out the slammer and The smallest man who ever lived are both about Joe, it really makes that relationship sound pretty miserable.

(obviously I know they’re just her side, and she has nicer songs about him too!)

OK so my favourites at the moment are Fortnight, Who's Afraid of Little Old Me, I Can Do it with a Broken Heart and The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived.

Oh fuck - it's a double album!

Looks like the leaks were indeed real, nice to be listening legitimately though 🙌

It seems nothing explosive happened with Joe, just the slow death of a relationship that had run its course. I actually feel really sorry for him and the hate he’s got on the assumption of what might be on this album and isn’t.

Clearly the thing with Matty hit her hard for whatever reason.

How do you know??