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NOW CLOSED Do you live in Scotland? Complete a survey about the Scottish Referendum - £50 voucher prize draw

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MichelleMumsnet · 20/08/2014 17:14

Hi everyone,

We're working with a national newspaper to find out what MNers who live in Scotland think about the referendum which is coming up in September.

This survey is open to all Mumsnetters living in Scotland.

If you're interested, please complete the survey here.

Everyone who completes the survey will be entered into a prize draw to win a £50 John Lewis voucher.

Thanks!

MNHQ

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SirChenjin · 20/08/2014 22:57

Done. And I'm not kicking myself, because despite being fed up of the whole thing I find myself drawn to these inde threads like a moth to a flame - or maybe it's more like a fly to shite?

SirChenjin · 20/08/2014 22:58

That should be - I am kicking myself

OldLadyKnowsSomething · 20/08/2014 23:57

On the "do you have children" q, I said yes, 2. But mine are adults, why no q about dgc? (Dgc don't have a vote, but they're a big part of why I'm saying Yes.)

The Sunday Times uses SurveyMonkey? And they're behind a paywall? Sheesh.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/08/2014 00:20

Sunday Times? Seriously, I too was assuming the DM due to the patronising tone of the questions. Of course the most important thing to us little women is how attractive we find the politicians, and of course that will influence our vote.

I've no doubt this survey will be turned into an amusing little fluff piece about how women (bless them, so unsuited to complex political decisions) vote for the best looking politician or something. There is no other reason for those questions to be in there.

Await the reporting of this "poll" with interest.

RubySparks · 21/08/2014 05:01

Done although I agree with others that the quality of the questions is rather poor. Being 'allowed' to keep the pound .... Any country can choose to use pound sterling as their currency! Currency union is rather different. And attractiveness is a ridiculous thing to ask about. Also agree that there is much more to the debate than economics, equality in society is a big issue for me.

Waswondering · 21/08/2014 07:54

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chemenger · 21/08/2014 08:32

I think the word "risk" is used very poorly in some of the questions. Risk of what? The questions in general are poorly phrased and seem to have been composed by someone with no training or experience in questionnaire development. Questionnaire questions need to use language with precision. I am kicking myself for completing this survey now, since I think it has some alterior motive, as Itsall suggests. I'm disappointed that mumsnet has run such a poor survey.

prettybird · 21/08/2014 11:00

Completed - but like others, Hmm at the sloppiness quality of the questions and the assumptions behind them.

And Shock at the TWO mistakes: describing Alex Salmond as leader of the Yes Campaign - how many times does it have to be repeated that it is not just about the SNP? Angry - and also at describing Alistair Darling as leader of the Yes Campaign (although that one has ow been corrected). Hmm

Who cares about the attractiveness or otherwise of the key personnel? That suggests a degree of superficiality that is quite insulting to the people of Scotland.

prettybird · 21/08/2014 11:15

...and like others, and very Hmm about the motives of those asking the questions and how they will be interpreted.

As a result, I didn't volunteer to be contacted.

KristinaM · 21/08/2014 12:00

I have messaged MN with my concerns about the survey

IME they are very good about responding to this kind of thing

If you feel strongly I suggest you do the same

KristinaM · 21/08/2014 12:04

I just read my post and it sounded bossy for some reason

Sorry, it wasn't meant to be. Honest Blush

SocialFlutterBy · 21/08/2014 14:07

All done, great survey (my favourite yet) a subject everyone has an opinion on x

RawCoconutMacaroon · 21/08/2014 15:30

I have filled it out-I have to say its a very badly written survey. Too many Black/white answers when there are many shades of grey.

FannyFifer · 21/08/2014 17:08

Hey SocialFlutterBy, I often think of your family & hope you are all doing ok. (Think I have right person)

Sleepyfergus · 21/08/2014 18:26

Unfortunately, some people will vote based on the individuals personality and appearance, and how they've been portrayed in the press. Not that I think this question should be included, but maybe it's to show what people appear to think AS or AD is like.

SirChenjin · 21/08/2014 20:41

Attractiveness of politicians is absolutely a factor in determining whether or not voters will vote for them - there's a fair bit of research in this field, and so I can see why they have included this question, ridiculous though it may be. If AS or AD looked like George Clooney, or Brad Pitt, or whoever floats your boat Neil Oliver then you would be more likely to vote for them. As humans we are predisposed to gravitate towards beauty, and to be more forgiving of their failings.

claig · 21/08/2014 22:40

Who cares about the attractiveness or otherwise of the key personnel? That suggests a degree of superficiality that is quite insulting to the people of Scotland.'

The media has been telling us that independence is more popular among men than women and they have also not stopped teling us that women find Salmond "blokeish". It is almost as if they think they can influence voters to turn against Salmond by pushing the "blokeish" line.

I don't know what the exact question in the survey was, but I expect that if it is anything to do with 'blokeishness', then this may get lots of media coverage if te resl goes the way the media likes.

claig · 21/08/2014 22:41

if the result goes

claig · 21/08/2014 22:47

This is the media backdrop to the 'blokeish' line.

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-politics/11025770/Scottish-referendum-is-Alex-Salmonds-blokeish-behaviour-turning-Scotlands-women-off.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2721487/Alex-Salmond-blokeish-female-voters-Opponent-says-Scottish-leader-s-attitude-women-campaign.html

You can just imagine the usual gang of suspects and spin doctors rubbing their hands in glee and laughing up their sleeves, congratulating themselves about how clever they are.

OldLadyKnowsSomething · 21/08/2014 22:56

Damn, so I should have said I found Ali blokish, instead of untrustworthy, arrogant and something else unpleasant that I forget?

claig · 21/08/2014 23:00

Or all of the above. Don't give the media the tomatoes to pelt any side with.

FannyFifer · 21/08/2014 23:27

I wouldn't say either of them are particularly blokeish tbh.

OldLadyKnowsSomething · 21/08/2014 23:35

Blokish is a word I associate with much younger men than Alex and Ali, like a rather wankerish, socially-awkward ladsmag reader (and I'd be very surprised if either of them read Nuts.) Odd description to include for the ST, but I'll watch for the results with interest.

claig · 21/08/2014 23:38

"One of Alex Salmond’s chief opponents has said his ‘blokeish attitude’ has put women off him during the referendum campaign on Scottish independence.

Margaret Curran, Labour’s spokesman on Scotland, was speaking after a poll found 51 per cent of women plan to vote against independence."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2721487/Alex-Salmond-blokeish-female-voters-Opponent-says-Scottish-leader-s-attitude-women-campaign.html

Blimey, that poll is on the edge. The media needs to get a poll out about "blokeishness" pretty damn quick or it's too close to call.

prettybird · 21/08/2014 23:44

What irritates me is that this is not - or should not - be a vote about either of these men. It is not a presidential election.

It is not a vote for Alex Salmond - who is not the leader of the Yes campaign. Neither is it a vote for Alistair Darling, who is only a backbencher.

If Scotland votes Yes, then in 2016 there would be elections for whoever we want to run an iScotland. Having said that, one of the arguments against independence is the possibility that Johann Lamont, as leader of the Labour Party in Scotland, might be the first iFirst Minister Shock

The referendum is not about WHO are we voting for, it's about WHAT we are voting for. Hmm