Facebook Live about talking to kids about staying safe from abuse with NSPCC

[RachelMumsnet]

We’re running a facebook live with NSPCC about talking to kids about staying safe from abuse. The NSPCC have developed programme called Speak out. Stay safe delivered in primary schools across the UK. Volunteers visit schools where they run workshops and assemblies to teach children how to stay safe from abuse and what to do if they have any concerns. The NSPCC are also running a campaign called PANTS that teaches parents how to talk to young children about staying safe from sexual abuse in an age appropriate and non-scary way.

Lidl say: "'Last year Lidl UK employees voted to make the NSPCC their new national charity partner for a three year period. During this period, this partnership will aim to raise £3 million to keep 1 million primary school children safe through the NSPCC’s Speak out. Stay safe programme. This vital programme helps to empower a generation of children with the knowledge they need to stay safe. With at least 2 children in the average primary school class having suffered abuse or neglect, it’s vital that the NSPCC has the resources to visit primary schools across the UK to teach children that abuse is never OK."

Join the NSPCC live next week on Thursday 30 August at 12.30pm on Mumsnet Facebook or post up a question on this thread that we will put to the NSPCC during the live stream. We’ll link to the stream next week on this thread.

GirlScout72

I completely agree they're arrogant.

But why can't they just say no to transactivists?

I suspect it's to do with donors, plus they just haven't considered they're wrong.

The dreadful irony is that in organisational terms, this is a house of cards.

If one organisation, just one, especially one with as much clout as the NSPCC, has the courage to openly say 'this is a safeguarding issue; trans girls are still boys and trans boys are still girls and they all need protecting according to their sex', all the other charities would follow suit. They would. It just takes one statutory body to pull the first card.

They are all propping each other up at the moment. But they will fall; it's inevitable. But I fear greatly that many children will have to suffer first.

And what angers me the most, what frustrates me and keeps me awake at night, is that I know absolutely that they all know that this is just ideology that they are parroting.

They know that these children can't change sex. They are serving them up on an alter of progressive bullshit and they are lying through their teeth while they do it.

Utter indefensible moral cowardice.

Moral cowardice is exactly what this is.

I've just looked at their twitter, is it being run by an idiot? What an unprofessional tone to take, have all of the adults knocked off early for the weekend?

It's school holidays. Maybe someone brought their 7 year old in for the day?

If you go on their website they have a what do you think of our website ? questionnaire
I may have used a rude word or two on it

I've had a chat with a pal who works in safeguarding (delivering training at Nursery level).

She did say that the NSPCC weren't great at coming up with safeguarding guidelines as they aren't working from a specific perspective ie a head teacher or a gg leader. And that some stuff they'd just released wasn't in her opinion up to scratch. They are just another charity giving out advice. They should be experts but they're not.

My belief is that people such as mermaids have probably "advised" in the absence of any other real official body (with an agenda to reach out) on all this, plus they have a vested interest from their perspective.

Of course the concerning thing is that to all intents and purposes, the general public think they will be experts.

Until some very clear guidance comes from up on high - government funded and commissioned - this is going to be a muddle and mine field. (NC'ed)

@DrudgeJedd

If that's the standard of their answers then it's probably best that they don't do a Mumsnet web chat!

I'm not a head teacher or a GG leader, and I can see a few problems with the way things are going.
If the NSPCC can't see any problems, they should disband.

(Even that 7-year old on NSPCC Twitter thinks they should prevent abuse from happening.)

I suspect it's to do with donors, plus they just haven't considered they're wrong.

God, that's so depressing.

I suspect it's to do with donors, plus they just haven't considered they're wrong.

In a nutshell.

But no excuse.

No hate here apparently, maybe y'all need to take that up with the moderators who agreed with me apparently ... "@theposieparker"'s comments deleted and who can be surprised when it was about a conspiracy of the NSPCC and trans people to abuse kids. What is wrong with the people posting here that they were unable to see the problem with that!?

Y'all fancy a cuppa?

Might as well. Got any jaffa cakes?

I am still struggling with what has happened here. The NSPCC is a sophisticated organisation.
They run accredited safeguarding training.
They run a first response safeguarding helpline.
They train in in schools and everywhere.
They deliver safeguarding services.
Yet they can't / won't answer the most straightforward questions about how parents can protect their children from online grooming or identify any risks to children from mixed sex sleeping / changing facilities, toilets, hospital wards and so on. Everything they say about boundaries and the right to say no undone in one fell swoop.
If they can be so easily persuaded to abandon their core belief - that of keeping children safe - then there really is no hope.

My belief is that people such as mermaids have probably "advised" in the absence of any other real official body (with an agenda to reach out) on all this, plus they have a vested interest from their perspective.

Yes.

No hope at all, I'm afraid tiredandweary.

I don’t think it’s just the trans issue that NSPCC aren’t up to scratch on. It’s very pot luck who you get when you ring for advice, some are excellent however I’ve spoken to some recently who seem to have no grasp of the law and/or basic safeguarding (with regards to issues that have nothing to do with trans) IMHO They’re verging on going the way of kids company but on a massive scale, I find it very worrying.

Has this excellent video by Posie Parker been linked to yet ?

Off to read the rest of the thread.

I have not read the whole thread. Are NSPCC going to address these issues?

I do think we need to ask what evidence/info/advice they considered when making the decision that self id doesnt raise any safe guarding concerns. What can we ask for? Meeting minutes?

Tunataka
This really needs to be picked up by a journalist to get any traction. It won't be until people realise the threat to children that things will change. The fact that the NSPCC won't recognise a threat that every aid agency recognises in their work overseas needs to be highlighted.