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Webchat with Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Labour Party, Tuesday 30 May at midday

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BojanaMumsnet · 26/05/2017 15:38

Hello,

We’re pleased to announce a webchat with the leader of the Labour Party Jeremy Corbyn on Tuesday 30 May at midday.

Jeremy has been MP for Islington North since 1983, and has been Labour leader since 2015, having been re-elected when Owen Smith stood against him in 2016. Labour’s manifesto for the election on June 8 proposes ‘a Brexit deal that puts our economy and living standards first’, tax rises for the top 5% of earners, the renationalisation of the railways, free school meals for all primary pupils, the abolition of university tuition fees, and a £250 billion investment fund for infrastructure and the economy.

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(As we approach the General Election we will endeavour to offer you a balanced diet of webchats with politicians from different parties. More announcements coming soon.)

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Webchat with Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Labour Party, Tuesday 30 May at midday
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Valentine2 · 02/06/2017 19:26

Because otherwise it's rather useless to even discuss it here.

Charmageddon · 02/06/2017 19:49

'Working for peace in NI' apparently- by talking to only the one side.
i can only shrug shoulder on that one because I am not old enough to remember any of that and neither have I don't any studies on that so can't comment. I have however seen his comments on that and I think the Mail/Sun/Spectator level media is representing his stance about IRA totally wrong.

If you're 'not old enough to remember it' & 'haven't done any studies on it' - how on earth do you come to the conclusion that 'the Mail/Sun/Spectator level media is representing him wrong'?
Confused

Bizarre.

Valentine2 · 02/06/2017 20:09

Because I read his statements and their excerpts with references. That's about as much as I have been able to do so far and hoping to do more over the weekend. But since it is in the headlines of Fail etc now, I can hardly expect to dig something true and genuine there, isn't it?
Besides, as I have read extensively on Middle East stances, its very likely I am about to find the same kind of thought process generally. Specially if his recent interviews are anything to consider.
Anyhow, by Monday I should be able to discuss it with you properly so just give me a couple days please. Smile

Valentine2 · 02/06/2017 20:09

Then we can discuss it with proper references and I can post links too.

Charmageddon · 02/06/2017 20:12

Lol 😂
It's fine!

It's hard trying to get to stuff now tbh on many things because the various searches are bogged down with tabloid spin.

There's a passage that Guido Fawkes dragged up from the Guardian years ago - will find it & paste it...

Charmageddon · 02/06/2017 20:14

Here:

In 1996, the Guardian wrote this about Jeremy Corbyn in a blistering leader column:

“Every few years, the London Labour MP Jeremy Corbyn indulges his romantic support for Irish republicans by using his parliamentary privileges to give them a publicity platform. These occasions always also provide a showcase for Mr Corbyn’s abiding qualities: his lack of wider political and moral judgment, his predilection for gesture politics, his insensitivity to the feelings of most Londoners and his indifference to the policies of his party… Mr Corbyn’s actions do not advance the cause of peace in Northern Ireland and are not seriously intended to do so. It is surprising that a politician as clever and important as the Sinn Fein leader should be bothered with him. Grown-up people ought to keep this childish sideshow in perspective. Mr Corbyn is a fool, and a fool whom the Labour Party would probably be better off without.”

muckypup73 · 02/06/2017 20:16

I find this more disgusting!!!! www.disabilitynewsservice.com/election-2017-tory-disability-minister-endorses-forced-institutionalisation/
Election 2017: Tory disability minister endorses forced institutionalisation
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By John Pring on June 1, 2017 Independent Living

The minister for disabled people has failed to oppose the idea of forcing disabled people into institutions against their will.

Penny Mordaunt was asked what she would do to protect disabled people from “forced institutionalisation” and whether she opposed it, as part of a series of questions put to her by the campaigning website Disability United.

Fleur Perry, editor of Disability United, had asked the question in the wake of research she carried out earlier this year which showed how many NHS primary care organisations had quietly introduced policies that could see disabled people with complex healthcare needs shunted into residential or nursing homes against their wishes as a cost-saving measure.

But instead of defending disabled people’s right to live in their own homes, Mordaunt said: “The decision about whether to institutionalise somebody against their will is rightly a matter for medical professionals, and decisions should be made on the grounds of individual safety and health.”

She then referred to the failure to move people with learning difficulties out of assessment and treatment units, in the wake of the Winterbourne View scandal, and said there was a need for more care and support services for people who have been in such institutions, to “ensure that no one who should not be in an institutional setting is”.

But the disabled researcher and writer Dr Jenny Morris, who helped write the Labour government’s Improving the Life Chances of Disabled People white paper and led the review which developed its 2008 Independent Living Strategy, said Mordaunt was “dodging the issue”.

She said the minister had failed to address a problem that was “completely unacceptable in a modern society”, which was local authorities and NHS clinical commissioning groups forcing people into institutions because they refused to pay for the support those people need to continue living safely at home.

Morris, a member of the Independent Living Strategy Group – which is made up of disabled people and allies from a range of organisations – said Mordaunt appeared to be focusing only on the government’s Transforming Care programme.

The programme aims to make it easier for people with learning difficulties and autism who also have mental health conditions and challenging behaviour and are kept in assessment and treatment units to escape those institutional facilities and live independently in the community.

But even on that issue, Morris said, Mordaunt had ignored the rights of people who have capacity to make their own decisions.

She said Mordaunt was showing “a distinct lack of awareness” of the independent living challenges facing disabled people, including those affected by the closure of the Independent Living Fund, and of the right to independent living under the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.

Another disabled campaigner said Mordaunt’s views were “very worrying” and appeared to ignore “50 years of social progress” and hand medical professionals a “mandate to decide who can and can’t live where they choose”.

She also pointed out that Mordaunt had made no mention of an individual’s decision-making capacity, or of “any consideration of a person’s wishes and views of where and how to live their life, or of their rights under the Human Rights Act.

“The idea that sole control of that decision-making process could or should be in the hands of medical professionals appears to go against the principles of independent living and seems reminiscent of the decades-outdated ‘medical model’ of disability.”

The Conservative party had failed to respond to a request for clarification of Mordaunt’s comments by noon today (Thursday).

notaflyingmonkey · 02/06/2017 21:18

Whereas May is happy to sell arms to Saudi who are bombing the Yemen, killing innocent men, women and children every day.

OlennasWimple · 03/06/2017 19:13

This editorial in yesterday's Belfast Telegraph summarises my position on JC and the IRA quite well

OlennasWimple · 03/06/2017 19:15

And anyone who says all JC and John McDonnell did was have a couple of friendly chats with Sinn Fein should read and reflect on this article

christinarossetti · 03/06/2017 19:56

Yep. Talking to people was the way that a peace settlement was reached in NI.

Selling arms just isn't, especially as it's fully known that many will kill innocent civilians.

MerryMarigold · 03/06/2017 20:04

I really don't get this 'terrorist' thing when Western governments constantly arm/ support people who kill innocent people.

MayhemAndRudderless · 03/06/2017 20:09

Corbyn voted for Ian Paisley (leader of the Unionist DUP and a loyalist) to be allowed to stay in parliament, after he had been kicked out! It has been documented that Ian Paisley thought highly of Corbyn.

Suck on that.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 03/06/2017 20:19

Suck on that.

How delightful

derxa · 03/06/2017 20:20

Talking to people was the way that a peace settlement was reached in NI. Not entirely. They ran out of funds from the USA after the Twin Towers atrocity. Money is the at the heart of everything including ISIS.

christinarossetti · 03/06/2017 20:45

It's certainly at the heart of the UK selling arms to Saudi Arabia.

Rudd said that selling arms to kill innocent civilians was 'good for industry' during the leader's debate this week.

I think it's fair to way that Corbyn has made his opposition to all forms of violence and unnecessary overseas intervention apparent.

What have we come to when someone saying that he'd need to 'think through' launching a nuclear attack as somehow problematic?

derxa · 03/06/2017 20:50

I think it's fair to way that Corbyn has made his opposition to all forms of violence That's not really what he thinks. That's what he says.

MayhemAndRudderless · 03/06/2017 20:50

Piglet much more delightful than May's insults and unfounded smear campaign.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 03/06/2017 20:54

Piglet much more delightful than May's insults and unfounded smear campaign

There is no justification for any of it. Full stop.

christinarossetti · 03/06/2017 21:30

Can you give an example where Corbyn has condoned violence then derxa?

HornyTortoise · 03/06/2017 21:32

And anyone who says all JC and John McDonnell did was have a couple of friendly chats with Sinn Fein should read and reflect on this article

OK we can't have it both ways. When it is claimed he was part of the peace process...people say that he was a nobody back bencher so how could he make any difference. Yet this claim is that his 'support' made enough difference to enable the IRA to bomb easier. Either he was influential enough to make a difference, or he wasn't. I have heard for days and days that he was a nobody. Which is it?

notaflyingmonkey · 03/06/2017 21:34

I think it's fair to way that Corbyn has made his opposition to all forms of violence That's not really what he thinks. That's what he says.

But you are here to tell us what he thinks are you @derxa? How splendid. Will you let us in on the secret of how you know his thoughts - does it involve a tin foil hat?

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