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Cooking in the 1970s

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ambereeree · 22/02/2021 12:35

I've been watching Delia Smith cookery shows from the 1970s and some things really stood out so if you were an adult then please enlighten me.
Delia introduces dried beans and lentils as a food of the future because meat is expensive and scarce and we'll all be eating more plant based substitutes. Of course we all know now meat is cheap and not great quality but people eat loads. What was it like in the 1970s?
Also most of her dishes are European-did you cook Indian/Chinese food in the 1970s?
I was born at the end of the 70s and am not ethnically English so always had non English food. I remember my mum making Indian savoury snacks and taking them into an mainly white English primary school and the teachers all excitedly gathering to have a taste of spicy foods.

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snowspider · 22/02/2021 20:51

I was born in the mid fifties and went off to University in Brighton in 1975. Ate most of the things on this thread leaning quite strongly to the Elizabeth David, Robert Carrier end. My dad loved new stuff and we had an American split level oven with rotisserie in our kitchen in the early sixties with a Kenwood mixer that hid under the worktop and hd a special mechanism to bring it up to working height from inside the cupboard. We also had a big double door American fridge and a giant chest freezer that had it's own room. Also stored in there were all the things he ordered mail order from "Buy Bulk". We had frozen mousses in strawberry and chocolate, individual chicken and mushroom pies and children's pizzas all in bulk packs delivered.
My dad used to do the shopping on Saturday morning and we had a different roast each week, rib of beef, leg of lamb, pork, capon, duck, chicken. I went with him so I got to choose. He cooked Saturday lunch which was usually faggots from the butcher in gravy with frozen peas, liver and bacon (lambs, pigs or calves liver), sausages, lamb or pork chops. We also had something called Bath chap. Polony sausage was another thing. For tea at the weekend we had rollmop herrings, fish fingers, pate, priddy oggies (which came by delivery from Somerset) and frogs legs and snails maybe from the same supplier?
He used to do a cooked breakfast on Sunday with the Archers on and then I used to make a pudding for Sunday lunch while he did the roast. Mum just made the gravy. We used to have "pros" short for pre-prandials before Sunday lunch from the cocktail cabinet Tio Pepe sherry, Vermouth, Gin and Tonic, Pimms. With lunch we children had cider and then later half a tinned fizzy drink which were shandy, lager and lime.
I have my Christmas lists from back then and in 1968 I asked for lychees and in the early seventies all my lists have Old Jamaica chocolate on.
My mum was very partial to collecting part woks and as well as Man. Myth and Magic and Golden Hands she had the Cordon Bleu Cookery Course.

In the early seventies there was a local shop called Wayfarer's that had a fabulous juice bar where they juiced fresh fruit and I used to go with a friend and have a fresh blackcurrant juice.

At my Grandma's in Wales we used to have fresh cockles, dabs which used to be live and flapped in a washing bowl of cold water in the pantry.

Mum baked bread and I remember her making jugged hare which stank as it had been hung. We used to eat pomegranate with a pin.

At uni I remember making pastry with wholemeal flour and using soya mince to make pasties. Infinity foods in Brighton sold a big range of dried foods and there were vegetarian restaurants like Brown's. There was bistro that we went to and a pizza place with a wood fired oven. If I stayed in London with my sister I used to insist on going to the Hard Rock Cafe where you had to queue for ages and they practically turfed you out.

WinterIsGone · 22/02/2021 20:53

I heard a story from the miners’ strike in 1984 that the German miners’ union had sent a load of food parcels over to help out, with packets of ground coffee.
My parents used to live in Germany, and my DM would often take me to our local Kardomah Café so she could choose coffee beans, and they'd grind them in the shop.

userxx · 22/02/2021 20:54

@ambereeree

Also Delia likes to remind viewers to use the oven widely and not turn it on for one small dish

Clearly my mum and gran watched those programs, both would be horrified that I would put one jacket potato in the oven.

C8H10N4O2 · 22/02/2021 21:01

I think the veggie stuff was to do with health.

At that time most of the veggies I knew were either religious/cultural or eco types with health being a secondary aspect if it got a mention.

A lot less "wellness" bollocks style diets where random foods were declared Evil by unqualified celebrity loons.

Grilledaubergines · 22/02/2021 21:07

Hamlyn All Colour Cookbook - the first full colour recipe book I think. Pure 70s! I still do recipes from it, such as chicken in orange and tarragon, and Apple Charlotte.

Findus Crispy Pancakes were a frequent dinner, as were revolting fish cakes where the insides were grey. Ditto burgers. Freezer food was bought in bulk. Joints of meat only bought if reduced, then frozen and eeked out for days.

MirandaWestsNewBFF · 22/02/2021 21:11

This thread is making a lot of things make sense for me! I was born in the early 80s, but my mum married and had my older siblings in the 70s.

She won’t put the oven on for just one thing. She thinks Chinese food from takeaways or restaurants is “full of additives and MSG”, but Thai restaurants and Indian restaurants are fine. She still considers salmon or steak to be very expensive. I understand why now! We ate both pasta and rice growing up, and not much processed food as one of my brothers had a digestive disorder and it was easier to cook from scratch. But exotic ingredients, fresh herbs or much of an understanding of seasoning were lacking, and meat was mainly cheap beef mince or sausages (but from the butcher in the market). Food came from the market and had usually come from local farms as we lived rurally. Our butcher meat was supplemented by pheasants, rabbits and pigeon which my dad brought home. Rocket started replacing iceberg or round lettuce in salad in the 90s, and cherry tomatoes appeared then too. I was fascinated by them!

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 22/02/2021 21:14

Garlic was widely available, even outside the metropolis. We lived near a big food market which also catered to the large local Asian community working in the mills and factories - lots of what were then exotic veg, herbs and fruit.

Grilledaubergines · 22/02/2021 21:22

I remember my dad bringing gone a star fruit when I was about 5 (1977) and it blowing my mind that that was its natural shape.

The arrival of an avocado into the fruit bowl was almost too much to take on board!

Grilledaubergines · 22/02/2021 21:22

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iklboo · 22/02/2021 21:31

Our meals would be something like:

Sunday - roast dinner. Dry AF meat burned to death, soggy veg, mash & gravy

Monday - pie or casserole with leftover meat, boiled potatoes (probably tinned) & gravy

Tuesday - bacon ribs, cabbage & chips

Wednesday - sausage & cooked cheese

Thursday - something like mince & onions with mash

Friday - chippy

Saturday - ham or tinned salmon salad with brown bread & butter

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/02/2021 21:41

In the 70s our meat consumption was almost exclusively mince or sausages and a roast dinner on a Sunday was a treat with leftovers eaked out.

Same here. To this day I cannot stomach mince! Ma used to boil it, skim off the fat and make a gravy with the mince still in it then put it all over the boiled potatoes so they "weren't dry". I begged her to just stick a spoonful on the side of the plate so I could scarf it down without chewing (remember the gristle in 70's mince?!) but she never would.

She was probably the first person in our extended family to cook "foreign". She made spag bol quite a lot (realised that we would actually eat that!) and my Grandmother, her MIL was obviously very impressed and envious, you could tell because of how sneery and bitchy she was about it! She would get more and more bitchy the more envious she was :o

We did have meat at every meal, because my mother was brought up on traditional english food of meat, potatoes and veg. When I went low carb and asked what I was eating I would say (say) some roast gammon and a veg gratin and she would always say "But what are you having with it?!" the idea of not have a huge pile of carbs to fill you up passed her by. Now in her 70's she has finally copped on to her years of struggling with her weight!

I too, like a pp, vividly remember my first chinese meal. It was a treat for my eighth birthday. They must have had a windfall because restaurants was something we never did as a family. It was chinese. I was allowed sweet and sour but my sister got plaice and chips as it might be "too spicy" for her! My mothers face when she got a right waft of garlic breath of her first grandchild because he had shared our.....probably pasta.... dinner that day was a picture. I think she thought I was going to kill him :o

CavalierJessica27 · 22/02/2021 21:43

LionLily. Was that Walthamstow market

ListeningQuietly · 22/02/2021 21:43

Meatloaf
followed by Angel delight

mathanxiety · 22/02/2021 21:56

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celtiethree · 22/02/2021 21:57

Our house was v plain cooking, had our first taste of Asian food from a Chinese take out in London in the 70s as a v special treat. We lived in Germany for a while and I remember my parents going to the butchers where they would pretty much order a side of pig (much cheaper that way) to be jointed which was put in our freezer and lasted a long time! Pasta and curry was never cooked in our house until the mid 80s! Sandwiches were, jam, ham or cheese. I went to a party when I was about 13 and was offered tuna - I had never had it before and thought it was very exotic 😀. The memory of school lunch with potatoes, liver and green beans still makes me feel 🤢

ScribblingPixie · 22/02/2021 22:00

@HilaryThorpe

hansgrueber it was Dorothy Sleightholme in her Yorkshire kitchen. There was also an afternoon TV programme called Houseparty, where a young (ish) Mary Berry was the cookery expert. For anyone who likes food nostalgia there is a fab cook book called The Prawn Cocktail Years. Crêpes Suzette, Osso Bucco, Chicken Kiev, Beef Wellington and so on.
Oh I loved Houseparty when I was off school. The doorbell ringing, the crafty chat & the cooking. Some of it is on Youtube and wow, it's just made me feel ancient watching it.
Norah8 · 22/02/2021 22:02

We ate smaller portions than now for sure.
I don't remember seeing fresh chicken just frozen.
We ate more things like soup and a milk pudding.
Always had bread an butter and homemade cake after our tea.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 22/02/2021 22:10

Things like pomegranates, cape gooseberries (kiwi), dragon fruit, horned melons, kumquats, pomelos, ugli fruit, star fruit, lychees, physalis, mulberries, passion fruit, grenadillo, imported strawberries. Avocado pears were a popular starter. I've no doubt they were luxury items and supply was seasonal but she bought them in Sainsburys or her local greengrocer.

None of those things would have been obtainable within 100 miles of where we lived in England- or in rural France, for that matter, apart from mulberries in season. Strawberries were available for about a month only - no polytunnels to extend the growing season. On the plus side, this did make the strawberry season very special- we used to gorge on them Smile

LoveFall · 22/02/2021 22:11

Diet for a Small Planet was first published in 1971. I read it and incorporated a lot of the ideas about eating less or no meat, and protein combining. We had a bit of a "health food" craze where I live and I remember making lots of homemade granola.

I have a recipe card box from the seventies where I collected all kinds of recipes, including Moussaka and other "ethnic" foods. I remember eating at many Greek themed pizza places as a student, and trying things at home.

As I recall, my Mum made spaghetti the first time in the 1960s, at which time it was indeed exotic.

MrsMop1964 · 22/02/2021 22:41

oh yes, like @Pogostemon we had the Dairy Book of Home Management. For some reason I was really fascinated by it and mum would say 'are you reading your bible again?' Sadly all that reading was wasted because I turmed out to be a rubbish housewife Wink

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 22/02/2021 22:42

@MrsMop1964

oh yes, like *@Pogostemon* we had the Dairy Book of Home Management. For some reason I was really fascinated by it and mum would say 'are you reading your bible again?' Sadly all that reading was wasted because I turmed out to be a rubbish housewife Wink
Us too. The facial exercises particularly fascinated me, for some reason.
PickAChew · 22/02/2021 22:56

Until the mid 70s, we lived in a small city and had tiny supermarkets - Liptons and, iirc, Hintons and mostly our local NAAFI store. Mum didn't drive so nothing else was accessible to us. Dad was away for months at a time and, like most people, didn't own a car, anyhow. A rare treat was findus roast beef in gravy.

That city has a booths, now.

We moved to Hull and had, at first, just a coop for most of our shopping. We could also catch the bus to grandways. Then dad got wheels which meant we could start to do a big shop at presto. We moved to elsewhere in the city and had a big grandways across the road and a Frank Dee's about 20 minutes walk away. Went off Frank Dee's when we got food poisoning off frozen chips that had been allowed to thaw.

We didn't have access to Tesco and sainsburys in the early 80s, when we moved to the Midlands, and we had a 20 mile drive for the Sainsburys.

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foodiefil · 22/02/2021 23:03

@VestaTilley

Just to say for Delia fans- her original 1989 Christmas programme (not the updated 2001 one, which is nowhere near as good) is on Amazon prime - a must watch! I watch it year round; such good recipes and good information and history.
Thank you 😍

I LOVE this thread.

I'm an 80s baby but my mam left spag bol for my gran to reheat for us and bless her she didn't know it came with pasta and just gave us a bowl of mince - this was the early 90s but small town in NE England 😆

EBearhug · 22/02/2021 23:13

We didn't have a TV, so no Delia for us, but even if we had, I doubt my mother would have had much truck with it - learn to cook, when she already could? (She had Opinions about us having cookery lessons at school, too.) We had Mrs Beeton, plus a file collection of magazine articles and supplements - jam was mostly done from a magazine supplement that was years old.

We were on a farm, so I was very well aware that we were supporting British farmers by eating beef, pork, lamb, chicken. I grew up seeing the pigs and cows. Our milk came straight out of the bulk tank. I have an early memory of Mum warming milk on a shelf over the Rayburn then slimming clotted cream off.

We had a large garden with a lot of veg and soft fruit. We had a freezer from early on, and I remember sitting round the kitchen table, topping and tailing blackcurrants, redcurrants and gooseberries for the freezer, not to mention stringing beans and podding peas before they were blanched then frozen. Mary Norwak's A-Z of home freezing featured heavily here. And in summer, "pick a colander of raspberries/strawberries before school" - and again when we got home. Occasionally, Dad would come in with a bucket of field mushrooms if he saw a good patch in the stubble after harvest.

As we had a Rayburn, stews/casseroles with baked spuds featured a lot in winter, along with things like cottage pie, lots of fruit crumbles and so on.

Sunday was always a roast, and the next day would be sweet & sour if pork, or curry if beef, lamb or chicken. Curry came with a selection of side dishes - dessicated coconut, sultanas, wedges of fresh tomato, sliced banana. Spag bol was common midweek meal, containing actual veg, mince and tinned plum tomatoes and ground paprika. Also liver, faggots (they containing offal like lung,) steak & kidney pie (pastry made with half butter, half lard.)

In season, there was pheasant, because the farm has a shooting, and they went out beating, and got paid a brace of pheasants each. I hate drawing a pheasant (removing the guts and gizzard.) We were known to complain, "not pheasant again!" At Christmas, everyone on the farm got vouchers for a local butcher, so that filled the freezer. And one year, after we had got rid of the pigs, we were asked by the police to take three pigs which had been stolen, so couldn't go back to their original farm and they ended up in the freezer, brawn and all. Don't think I've eaten brawn since then. There was always a tongue at Christmas, which was booled, then the scalded skin removed and it was curled up and pressed in an old biscuit tin with a weight on.

Fish featured more often than I liked ' sardines on toast for a Saturday tea. Sometimes we were given trout or mackerel from local fishing friends. Mum liked whitebait, too, tossed in flour then all fried up.

I still don't eat fish. Mum was quite good about stuff like that. You had to try things, but it was soon clear I would not eat fish, and my sister would not eat eggs, so it wasn't forced. We never had broccoli because Mum didn't like it (though lots of purple sprouting,) nor suet puddings, which Dad have liked.

My parents had good parties, which were usually with buffets - slices of cold roast meats, British cheeses, dressed whole salmon, vol au vents, devilled eggs. And puddings. Mum loved making puddings, so there would be fruit fools, meringues with cream and soft fruit, profiteroles, lemon meringue pie, trifle, cheesecake. All home made.

As babies, our first food was the same as Mum & Dad's, whizzed up in the blender bit of the Kenwood Chef that I still have, over 50 years on.

At our best friends', their mum was very into health food, so I remember lots of quiches with wholemeal pastry, cottage cheese on wholemeal toast, and chilli on brown rice, which was mostly mince and onions with chilli powder.

There was an Indian restaurant in town, which we might go to for special things like a birthday. I don't remember a Chinese till well into my teens in the '80s. My first Chinese was in a restaurant in Perth, which must have been about 1983, on our way to Westeross. We rarely went to pubs, but I do remember chicken in a basket on holiday in Devon, where they also had a space invaders machine. My sister had scampi in a basket.

I suspect our diet would have been less varied if we weren't on the farm, because I think we had access to more food than we could have otherwise afforded.

TheNemesisOfLame · 22/02/2021 23:15

@Ragwort @AmadeustheAlpaca
Still use my grubby copy. Grin First cookbook my mum gave me when I moved in with my boyfriend. Probably to make up for the fact she loathed cooking Smile

Cooking in the 1970s
Cooking in the 1970s