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Absolutely Ridiculous Things in Books

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SmidgenofaPigeon · 13/01/2021 15:20

I’m reading (it’s painful and I will use it for kindling when I’m finished) Just My Luck by Adele Parks. I actually used to enjoy her books back in the day for a bit of mindless escapism and the characters were well-written but they’ve slid into lunacy over the last few years. Think twins pretending to be the same person and getting married to one guy (or something like that) and a mum’s glamorous 45 year old mate shagging her 17 year old son and getting pregnant while they all live under the same roof.

The latest one they win the lottery and calamity ensues in the most implausible ways possible.

The daughter in this one is musing over the fact that her boyfriend has turned into a bit of cad and she’s moping about, and musing over missing ‘the musty smell of his balls’

THE MUSTY SMELL OF HIS BALLS.

The character in question is FIFTEEN. She was ONLY FIFTEEN YEARS OLD (in the voice of Micheal Caine)

Please add, there must be loads, and we can have a laugh on this horrible wet January afternoon.

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moimichme · 17/01/2021 09:40

I've blocked out the name of the author and book (it was that awful!), and it was not chick lit. In fact, it was kind of the opposite really - though I don't know if men would find it any more enjoyable! Truly awful writing, and the main character was a rich lawyer who was constantly having sex with random women (some married, some not, all ages, all incredibly beautiful etc. but they were all fine with cheating / having some casual sex with him, no thought of the effect on others...). I honestly can't remember if there was an actual plotline, but the protagonist was so unlikeable I read it to the end because I was hoping it was satire or he'd get his comeuppance somehow...

No. He didn't. Last chapter, he had happily married one of the lovely women and was receiving a lifetime achievement award at the age of 80, still squeezing random women's bottoms, talking about threesomes etc. Urgh it was awful! I really hated that character and the author, too! It seemed like the author wanted to be that awful guy and thought he was great!

It was about 20 years ago, and the worst book I ever read (ripped up and used as kindling). Oh and apparently the author had had other books made into films - shocking! I used to force myself to read books to the end but after that one, I stopped!

Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · 17/01/2021 10:05

I’m going to go along with all the Susan Howatch love.

She helped me when I was proof reading an academic article. The writer mentioned the Glass-Segel Act. I was sure that this was wrong, based upon my memories of The Rich are Different. My belief was correct. The writer was quite snotty to me when I corrected him.

Carriemac · 17/01/2021 10:10

Marian Keyes wrote
The most stereotyped Yorkshireman as the hero ones boyfriend in one of her earlier books - all calling her a
Fat lass and being really stingy . It's actually offensive when you read it now

BalloonSlayer · 17/01/2021 10:20

But the whole point is that Thomas is abusive. He's not abusive because he's a Yorkshireman, he is a Yorkshireman who happens to be abusive.

You might as well say that Gus in Lucy Sullivan is getting married is a stereotyped Irishman.

Gliblet · 17/01/2021 10:30

Ohhhh abusive men. We inherited a huge stack (several boxes) of 50s vintage pulp and sci fiction from DH's granddad. Most of it is harmless enough escapism but there are two or three authors who are just SO damaged. DH, having read these as a teenager, can now see the underlying weirdness and says it's a miracle he didn't grow up into a complete arsehole given that his male role models were either characters in books, or his dad (arsehole extraordinaire).

Piers Anthony - hates women. Every female character or set of characters is either a mindless sex object or a complete arsehole. And Robert E Vardeman's sex scenes are almost exclusively "she hated him. Muttering about how much she hated him, she clamped her flaps shut and sulked by the campfire. Suddenly, the firelight illuminated his neanderthal brow ridge and bulging muscles and her ladyparts - completely of their own accord - dragged her across the campsite to climb him like a cat up a scratching pole" Hmm Angry

StartupRepair · 17/01/2021 10:48

Just off to read the full thread but want to say yes to the disappearance of decent editing. Bloated books, internal contradictions and errors of time, geography and language just sail right on to the sales team now.

shinynewapple2021 · 17/01/2021 10:54

@cateycloggs
There is a writer - James Patterson, I think it is, who pens books jointly with other writers . The books come out so frequently that I'm sure he only has a very vague / editorial contribution to the writing .

UserEleventyNine · 17/01/2021 11:29

The Nancy Drew books were written by a syndicate

The Stratemeyer syndicate. It wasn't just Nancy Drew; they did the Bobbsey Twins, the Hardy Boys, and various others.

Coopz · 17/01/2021 11:31

But the whole point is that Thomas is abusive. He's not abusive because he's a Yorkshireman, he is a Yorkshireman who happens to be abusive

I agree with @Carriemac tbh. Thomas was a walking embodiment of the worst Yorkshire stereotypes, from the dialogue to his stinginess. It was embarrassing.

notafanoftheman · 17/01/2021 11:38

Caroline Quine would have been easier for French people to pronounce especially back in the 50s/60s or whenever they first came out when people wouldn’t be so accustomed to hearing English on tv etc. Nancy’s name was also changed to Alice Roy. I don’t know if the settings etc were changed, I’ve not read any.

DahliaMacNamara · 17/01/2021 11:45

Interesting to see so many share my views on editing/ proofreading in modern books. I wondered if it was just me becoming less forgiving, but that's nonsense. I've never been forgiving.

IncludeWomenInTheSequel · 17/01/2021 11:49

Plenty of Marian Keyes' characters veer towards the cartoonish, and I guess in some cases it tips over into stereotyping.

CounsellorTroi · 17/01/2021 11:53

[quote OnceUponAMidnightBeery]@CounsellorTroi

Yes, I love Susan Howatch, the Sturbridge series are excellent, I liked the St Benets trilogy too, but not as much.

The Wheel of Fortune is one of my favourite rereads. I love a family house saga if it’s well written.[/quote]
Oh yes The Wheel of Fortune isa lovely big luxurious treat of a book and regular reread for me. You might also enjoy Adam Kennedy’s Bradshaw trilogy - out of print but often obtainable through Amazon.

SmidgenofaPigeon · 17/01/2021 11:53

So after ploughing through it this weekend (it really is awful) I have now finished the book that inspired me to start this thread. It was a travesty, awful plot with no character development and clunky dialogue. And as a previous poster pointed out, we’re not sure if Adele knows that ‘musty’ means old and unwashed, not ‘musky’ which at least could mean a bit sexy, and ‘to whelp’ does not mean exclaim in ecstasy, it means to birth puppies.

Here is a summary of the events:

This rather insular ‘gang’ who met at an NCT group (presumably to make all their children the same age) had a big thing about playing the lottery every week (the heroine is in fact weirdly obsessed about the lottery) Apparently they’d never even won a tenner before, but on this occasion they win 18million (this amount changed several times) but, to two of the couples chagrin, they are not actually in the syndicate because of not paying their £2, or slagging off the lottery, or something like that. EXCEPT THEY DIDN’T PULL OUT!!! Lies!!! Our wet-blanket-devoid-of-personality-do-gooder-heroine has fucked them over, and told the lottery people the others weren’t in, because one of them is having an affair with her husband and the another is a dodgy landlord.

So this couple that seem to have quite a nice marriage, and he’s seemingly quite a good albeit lazy parent, suddenly have a windfall and burn through it like no one’s business. Lexi, the heroine, gifts someone from the she helps at the CAB three million pounds, because he’s hot and also because his wife and child are dead. But also he’s hot, and kind and gentle, not like her husband. I’m unsure of where a lot of the money actually went. The teenage daughter with a penchant for musty balls is hiding a secret pregnancy. There’s a younger son too, but no one seems to bother much about him.

They throw a huge party, seemingly for everyone they know, but with no mention of their extended family. It’s essentially a mini-festival blown up to ridiculous proportions and a platform for all the local teens to get off their faces, which everyone is fine about, because the hosts are lottery winners. The teenage daughter, dressed in a purple leotard and not much else, because the party planner told her it was ok and her mum is a husk of a parent, has a bit too much and after a vomit in the surrounding woods, gets beaten and shoved in a burlap and gets taken away. Oh! The mum missed three hours of her own party because the hot Moldovan is having a farewell party, ad this party is better, because even though most of the guests are from Eastern Europe and work as cleaners or delivery drivers, they can talk about literature and stuff, unlike, perfect English, and cook really nice food that she hasn’t tried before, and this is apparently a big revelation to our heroine, and not meant to come across as condescending at all.

On discovering the fifteen year old is missing, only her mother is horrified, everyone else just assumes she’s ‘passed out somewhere’. They don’t call the police because the kidnappers say not to. Of course there’s a vigil at the lottery winner’s house where they wait for news, and drink coffee from the expensive machine, and admire the kitchen fittings, and take nice showers. Mostly they drink the expensive coffee. They don’t tell the teenage son his sister has been kidnapped, they just let him play video games in his room, and he doesn’t ask why everyone is staying up in the kitchen drinking coffee, because he doesn’t need to come down to eat or get a drink or anything, because he’s a prop teenage boy, not a real teenage boy. He doesn’t ask why his sister hasn’t come home from the party. The pregnancy comes out, no one is that horrified about their fifteen year olds having sex and making a baby, just ‘they didn’t know they were having sex’. Seriously, the lack of parenting in this book is unreal. The writer is a mum herself so I’m not really sure what’s going on with that.

Ooh! The husband has somehow worked out where the kidnapped daughter is and nips out to get her, casually depositing ten minion pounds as ransom on the way. He takes the Ferrari so gets there nice and quick. Unfortunately she’s in a bad way, and has been beaten up, and doesn’t have a baby anymore because if being kicked around, which is a weight off of everyone’s mind.

After three days in the hospital in a nice private room and no counselling even though she was beaten up and bound and gagged in a barn and thought she’d be raped then murdered, the daughter is home and a bit sad about how the party turned out, but wants to go and see her former best mate, who shock horror reveals it was her dad behind the kidnap. The reason is he wanted ten million to run off with one of the other women in the gang, I forget which one, maybe both?

There’s a trial. Some people go to prison. People are disgusted. The judge has teenage daughters too so he is REALLY disgusted. The dad only meant to rough her up a bit but fell in with some gangsters and they did what gangsters do. Oops.

Anyway, it’s summer now and the heroine and her two children who are ‘doing fine’ and don’t have PTSD went to Moldova to see where the hot guy and the three million are at, and they think he’s doing really good work so they might do some of it in the U.K. They still live in their fancy house they rented after the win, but they will return to their old semi soon because they’ve built a conservatory on it.

There’s some money left but we are not sure how much. But hey ho, easy come, easy go! Some things are more important, right?

The End

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Agiftofknives · 17/01/2021 12:00

Most people must have has come across a “Thomas” type character (male and female) with regards to stinginess and bitchiness “I’ll speak as I find”, I don’t see it as being a characteristic of a “Yorkshireman” either.

As for books that annoy, many years ago I read Destiny by Sally Beauman, and the bit about the heroine growing up in a southern US trailer park was incongruous (teenage mother from North Devon) and made me think that Ms Beauman had only come into contact with the Southern States by reading “To Kill a Mockingbird”

Biscuitsanddoombar · 17/01/2021 12:13

You were gone by Tim Weaver. I fully fess up that I only got the audiobook because Tom Burke was narrating one of the characters & id listen yo him read the phone book. With this I really wish he had been reading the phone book!

Private detective is called into police station because a woman claiming to be his wife had turned up only! His wife has been dead for 5 years. Then follows an utterly ludicrous plot where he has to prove his wife is really dead. At no point does anyone just go & get a copy of the death certificate/do a DNA test on said woman/dig up the coffin/ask all the ppl who nursed her as she died of cancer. It was the most utterly ridiculous thing I have ever had the misfortune to listen too!

Notyourcat · 17/01/2021 12:22

Sorry not a book but watching Lupin at the moment. Assane finds a video that will expose the powerful bully who framed his father for theft 25 years earlier, resulting in his death. Instead of releasing it on Twitter or YouTube, he goes on TV where the TV station take the only copy of the tape(he hasn’t thought to make a copy) and doctor it so it is useless. He is totally shocked that a man who has ruthlessly crushed his enemies for 25 years should ruthlessly crush him too.ConfusedI am so annoyed with this ridiculous plot twist that I might have to actually stop watching!

notafanoftheman · 17/01/2021 12:38

Haha me and DH said exactly the same. And he didn’t put any makeup on his hands. Plus the baddie is a dead spit for Jim Royle.

rosetylersbiggun · 17/01/2021 13:15

I've been meaning to ask if anyone with knowledge of publishing can say if authors of popular brands of books as you could have said the James Bond books were ever farm out the actual writing?

Ian Fleming wrote all his own books (and Bond might not be to everyone's tastes, but he could certainly write - the writing in those books is far superior to the usual standard of spy books, and light years above the films), but since he died others have written 007 books under their own names.

A lot of writers are collectives, as pointed out. I like to read Sweet Valley when depressed and the quality varies so much depending on the writer (though the writers are credited inside the jacket).

KrisAkabusi · 17/01/2021 16:21

There is a writer - James Patterson, I think it is, who pens books jointly with other writers . The books come out so frequently that I'm sure he only has a very vague / editorial contribution to the writing .

James Patterson writes a 40-50 page treatment for each book. His co-author then writes all the dialogue and continuity to flesh out and finish the book.

Cecillie · 17/01/2021 18:09

@Biscuitsanddoombar
Had forgotten how bad that was, also listened to the audible version which was the only reason I staggered through to the end .
So completely ludicrous
When they drugged him and then put him in the house that they had made to look like his old house to confuse him , just why !

cateycloggs · 17/01/2021 19:01

Thanks to those giving James Patterson as the author with a stable of co-writers, that was the name I heard on the radio. I know Fleming wrote all his own books, I was just trying to give an known example of a writer using a continuing theme or character. He is one of those writers I have never read but know quite a bit about due to the cultural history of his time. Did you know his brother Peter went out with the writer Barbara Pym at university in the 30s I think. Actually most books are formulaic when you think about, it's more what they do with the formula and how they use the language.

DadOnIce · 17/01/2021 20:34

Jack Higgins does a similar thing to Patterson, but gives credit to his co-writer Justin Richards on the cover.

I have a feeling the Tom Clancy books credited to 'Tom Clancy's Ops Centre' or whatever it is may well do a similar thing.

And we all know 'Daisy Meadows' doesn't really exist, right?

Absolutely Ridiculous Things in Books
sashh · 18/01/2021 07:32

Duchess of York is apparently writing now for Mills and Boon, I expect horses will play a part!

And toe sucking?

SmidgenofaPigeon · 18/01/2021 07:46

If anyone has seen the Duchess of Y read children’s books on YouTube- I’m sure her writing is going to be totally off the wall!

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