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Help!! Carpet fitter has just stormed out. AIBU?

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whenskiesaregrey · 17/04/2012 11:51

Sorry for rambling state of this post, I am a bit upset about the way I have just been spoken to. Also, sorry for the length of the post, I just want to include all the detail.

I ordered some carpet last week to be fitted today. It is a local small carpet shop, not part of a chain. They offer a 'free fitting service', but you pay 75% of the price in the shop, and the remainder once fitted. I presume this is because they sub-contract out the fitting. In my case this was £150 in the shop, and £50 once fitted. I have bought carpet and fitting from this shop before, and the fitting service wasn't great, but they said they were using a different company that day, so I gave them the benefit of the doubt and ordered from them again. In the shop, I mentioned the problems I had had last time (punctuality, not taking old carpet away) and asked for reassurance that the service would be better this time. I was assured it would be.

Carpet was due to be delivered at 9am. At half past 9, no-one had turned up, so I rang the shop asking where they were. I was told they had has a couple of problems this morning and only had one fitter on instead of two, and they might be able to fit me in a 2pm today. I can't do that time as DS has a party 2-4pm, and I work Wed-Fri, so this morning really was the only time this week that was suitable. I explained to the man on the phone that I has problems last time, and was told it would be better this time. So he said he would move some things around, and fit me in about 10am this morning.

At 10, two men arrived to fit the carpet. In the bedroom, the furniture we had left in there was a double bed, a wardrobe, and chester of drawers and two little side units. We had been told in the shop not to worry about moving any furniture out of the room, that they would move it around the room to fit it. DH had taken the mirrored doors off the wardrobe to make it lighter to move, and we had moved all of the other usual bedroom stuff out of the room. The chest of drawers were half empty, just had underwear in them. The bed still had the bedding on it because I didn't think it would make any difference. The little side units did have things in them, but they really are very small, so I thought they be okay. I am 27+ weeks pregnant with PGP, so it is a bit difficult to move things around.

He went to the bedroom and looked around and sighed. The said, you're going to need to get those clothes out of that wardrobe. There wasn't very much in there because we are getting new wardrobes, so it was just a few things to keep us going until the new stuff arrived. I said I would move it, but it shouldn't make much different to the weight. He said if he tried to move the wardrobe, it would collapse, which I said wasn't true as we have just decorated, and have been moving the wardrobe around so we could get to the walls. But I still carried on moving the clothes. He then started opening the drawers in the chest of drawers, which have my underwear etc in. I said the drawers are almost empty, so the underwear shoudn't make any difference to the weight. He then picked up the small unit and dragged it around the room in a way that the drawers all fell forward and the unit nearly tipped up. I said to him that I would move it if he was going to move it like that, and moved the other unit out of the room. He then said 'look love, I'm doing you a favour here, I could leave you to move it by yourself if you want'. By the point, the other lad had turned the double bed up on to its side and was leaning against the window. I said to the first lad that I understood that he has obviously had a busy morning and he didn't have much patience, but I had been waiting for the delivery too. He said 'no patience?! I shouldn't even be here. I'm not staying here and taking this. Do you want me to go'. I said to him if he wanted to go, he should go, but it's his job to fit the carpet. He shouted to the other lad, 'right, we're off', stormed down the stairs and got in the van. The other lad looked a bit sheepish, and I said 'so is he just going to go, leaving the bed on its side and all the furniture like that'. I am quite obviously pregnant, and DS was playing downstairs and shouting to me, so it was obvious that I would not be able to move the furniture back. He said he would have a word with him, but once he had got in the van, they drove off. So the bedroom is left with the very heavy oak double bed on its side, a unit in the middle of the floor, and they left the door open as they stormed out.

I rang the shop and explained that I thought the fitter was very rude, and what was going to happen now. He said that they had done me a favour by moving the other appointments round to fit me in at 10am, and they were wasting time on the phone at the moment, and other appointments needed to be done. He then said it is in my best interest to be flexible with the delivery time, because I wont get my £150 deposit back, because they have ordered the carpet. I then tried to reiterate how rude the fitter had been to me. Apparently the fitter had told the lad in the shop that I refused to move anything out of the room, and that is why he left. Now, if the shop had explained to us to make sure wardrobes were empty, drawers were empty etc, then we would have done it. We told them when we ordered it it was for a bedroom, so you would know the type of furniture would be in there. But we were told that we did not need to get any furniture out of the room, the fitters would work around it.

Was I being unreasonable to the fitter? Is it true I can't get my money back on the carpet? I don't want that fitter back in the house, he really was so horrible to me. I understand he has obviously had a busy day, and I said that to him, but at the end of the day, that isn't my fault and he shouldn't take it out on me. I also don't like the suggestion from the shop that they are doing me a favour by re-arranging the delivery for me, when I have paid for a carpet and fitting, and that is what I expected.

I am pretty upset at the moment, which is probably all pregnancy hormones. I got a bit upset on the phone to the shop, so he said he would ring me back 'when I had calmed down'. So I am waiting for them to call back now. Where do I stand?

Thank you if you read this far!!

OP posts:
LadyClariceCannockMonty · 19/04/2012 16:56

I'm going to get me some Bedlam mugs!

carpetfitter · 23/12/2012 11:48

ok ,im a carpet fitter,to start with we are not allowed to take old carpet as we need a waste carrying liscence,and why should we put your old carpet on top of someones new one in the van??would you like that????also most fitters will not move furniture,why should we?we get paid for fitting carpets not for moving furniture ,also if u leave things in the room they can get damaged and when fitting a carpet we need the whole room to open the carpet ,we have to fold the carpet back which causes creases and bubbles ,then the customer moans about this,so if you want a proper job doin then empty your rooms ,stop moaning ,if i took my car in the garage with a puncture and said to the garage owner will u just fix my broken turbo whilst u are working on the puncture ,would he do it,i doubt it so dont ask us to move furniture,the best is when there is a bit left over nd the customer will say can u just put it in the bthroom for me its only smalll,yes small but the worst and most time taking room to fit in the house ..........people expect too much for nothing

carpetfitter · 23/12/2012 11:53

ok ,im a carpet fitter,to start with we are not allowed to take old carpet as we need a waste carrying liscence,and why should we put your old carpet on top of someones new one in the van??would you like that????also most fitters will not move furniture,why should we?we get paid for fitting carpets not for moving furniture ,also if u leave things in the room they can get damaged and when fitting a carpet we need the whole room to open the carpet ,we have to fold the carpet back which causes creases and bubbles ,then the customer moans about this,so if you want a proper job doin then empty your rooms ,stop moaning ,if i took my car in the garage with a puncture and said to the garage owner will u just fix my broken turbo whilst u are working on the puncture ,would he do it,i doubt it so dont ask us to move furniture,the best is when there is a bit left over nd the customer will say can u just put it in the bthroom for me its only smalll,yes small but the worst and most time taking room to fit in the house ..........people expect too much for nothing

TidyDancer · 23/12/2012 11:53

Zombie thread.

KobayashiMaru · 23/12/2012 11:57

zombie thread, carpetfitter. What are you up to?

QODRestYeMerryGentlemen · 23/12/2012 11:58

yanbu

out of what you described to be in the room I would have only taken out the bed sled cabinets and maybe but probably not drawers.
Beds can't usually be just casually left anywhere else

he's a Twat

gordyslovesheep · 23/12/2012 12:01

ZOMBIE

Amytheflag · 23/12/2012 12:02

How many pages did carpetfitter trawl for this! (Fed the zombie whoops!)

maddening · 23/12/2012 12:06

Haha carpetfitter must have been googling and got so hufty he/she HAD to post :)

HECTheHallsWithRowsAndFolly · 23/12/2012 12:57

Carpetfitter

1 - this thread is almost a year old

2 - the OP had discussed BEFORE ORDERING that they would fit and take old carpet away.

They should do what was agreed at the time of ordering. It is as simple as that.

It's a contract. I want you to do X, Y and Z. You agree to do X, Y and Z. I pay you for X, Y and Z.

You turn around after that and say actually, I'm not going to do Y and Z after all and you are in the wrong

QODRestYeMerryGentlemen · 23/12/2012 18:34

Doh. Teach me to the end before commenting

RyleDup · 23/12/2012 18:46

You sound like a very grumpy carpet fitter, carpetfitter. Are you the carpet fitter who went to see the op by any chance?
Anyway, the op is in the right, that was the contract agreed with the shop, you don't get to change your mind and storm out after the money has been taken.

Floggingmolly · 23/12/2012 20:05

When we asked was it ok to leave a wardrobe in the room, (empty, so quite light to move from one side of the room to another but awkward to manoeuvre across the landing) they quoted a £50 charge.

Floggingmolly · 23/12/2012 20:06

Oh! Zombie thread Blush

VivaLeBeaver · 23/12/2012 20:21

I know it's a zombie thread but carpetfitter come and tell me what to do with my sofa? I want a new living room carpet. Sofa will only get out the room via the window. I can't face having the window taken out. And I don't have anywhere else in the house to put it anyway.

If I get all the other furniture out and the carpet out, is leaving a sofa in the room acceptable?

Colcat50 · 28/07/2013 23:59

I am sorry you had a bad experience with your carpet fitter, but there are a few things you obviously don't realise. Firstly there is no such thing as free fitting the shop adds the price onto the carpet and most shops tell the customer to pay a certain amount to the fitter which is actually their fee. All carpet fitters are self employed no matter what shop they work for. My husband has been a carpet fitter for 30 years. No shop will employ a fitter on their books as if they have no work they will have to pay a fitter for being at home. Most carpet fitters work for 2 or 3 shops as most shops just book them in for 1 or 2 days a week. The other point is the fitter knows nothing about the job until arriving as it is the shop that measures and prices the job and quite often my husband has gone into long and complicated jobs without bring told. Also shops have told him in the past it is only a bedroom/bathroom won't be longer than an hour and we have told next customer you will be there by and this means if there is furniture to remove things to cut round he cannot get to next customer by the right time. To be honest my husband has never upset anyone yet but he explains all this to customer if it is involved and asks if he can refit another time allowing plenty of time for job which he arranges with customer personally or he will phone next customer and explain he has been held up and why. The shops he has worked for half the time have no idea how long a job is or what is involved the shop says if customer hasn't paid for an uplift or for furniture removal and replace dont do it. All the shop wants is a sale and profit , not bothered about customer or fitter. It is just a case of who does it does it and as long as carpet goes down don't worry about a stroppy customer they can just blame fitter anyway. Like I said my husband is pretty laid back and is always polite do just explains it and hasn't yet upset a customer so I think you were unlucky with fitter. Just a quick example my husband was offered a job for tomorrow in west London, a bit of a way but he would travel that far as it is a houseful, but the shop forgot to mention the carpet was out if stock do could he collect it, then added from Cambridge. We live in Hampshire and the shop wanted him to be at house to start job for 10, not really fesable. Hope you get better service in future but do take this points on board so you know for future reference.

MardyBra · 29/07/2013 00:03

FFS ZOMBIE THREAD ALERT

MardyBra · 29/07/2013 00:04

And if you are going to reply use some fucking paragraphs!

FrancesHouseman · 29/07/2013 00:07

This thread has been resurrected twice now by a well-meaning carpet fitting expert!

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 29/07/2013 00:42

Viva we had similar with a huge sofa bed thingy.
We had a through lounge and originally sofabed had to come into the house via the back garden/patio doors.
Then we had a divider wall .........................................

So we had to get laminate Grin and sofabed thingy got moved bit by bit.
When it eventually got thrown out it had to be chopped up Shock

We've got similar with the huge arsed TV. That would have to go out in bits .

freshmilk · 31/01/2015 23:52

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WilliamShatnersPants · 31/01/2015 23:59

Is this the zombie thread that will never die??

LoofahVanDross · 01/02/2015 00:03

fuck me it is back for a 3rd time

TheOnlyOliviaMumsnet · 01/02/2015 00:07

@LoofahVanDross

fuck me it is back for a 3rd time

So are we Grin

LillyEvans · 01/02/2015 00:21

I wonder if the op ever got her carpet... Hmm

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