How did mankind ever work out 'where babies come from'???

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Seriously - 9 months from sex to bubs - how did anyone ever work out the cause and effect??

This was a gynae specialist talking about PMT and painful periods. One of the things he said was that women were not designed to have many periods.
Permanently pregnant, propogation of the species and all that.

Pregnant, breastfeed, pregnant, breastfeed, pregnant breastfeed and so on. Child mortality was very high, so they had many many pregnancies. When I say modern, I dont really mean this or last century. Pre historic or somewhere there.

That is the extent of my blather on the subject. (Mastermind specialist subject would be many items of useless information picked up from coming in halfway through random documentaries)

I didn't copy and paste that. It came out of my brain. You know like thinking and that.

This thread is hilarious, and so is blinder's righteous indignation. The first question isn't stupid at all, even though blinder is boringly correct, it still a fun thing to ponder on, but Melty, the second question really is. If you've ever felt like having sex, you must know it's instinctive.

Jacksmania, I immediately thought of the Blue Lagoon too!

You know I was very young about 9/10 when I first saw the Blue Lagoon. Someone had a bootleg video. I got the wrong end of the stick and thought they were brother and sister. I was horrified

And as for the penis thing, we all know men like to put it in odd places, but why the female vagina? As oppsoed to I dont know, somethine else warm and squelshy.

Jacksmania I can't win with you. However I try to put it you aren't happy. And your patronising suggestion that we I 'play nice' when I was expressing an opinion was condescending in the extreme.

I don't think you're all idiots (your words Jacksmania) but I wish you'd try reading my posts instead of immediately arguing with them without taking the time to understand what I am saying.

I haven't bickered with anyone on this site for years and I'm not gonna start now.

Don't ask a question if you don't want to hear the answer however.

"The pregnant woman is the earliest piece of art." - True, the Venus figures from places around Europe? But I thought they dated from about 10,000 years ago. Modern Man appeared well before that (forget exactly but >50,000 years ago) and Neanderthals even earlier so the Venus probably appeared as a fertility symbol no? Well it was obvious that women had the babies but not necessarily obvious that men had anything to do with it.
And phalluses and vaginas just celebrate sex - not necessarily the connection with babies.

Just for fun, I googled "Who invented sex"
Harold Robbins comes up quite high on the list.

Salmotrutta the problem is the development of consciousness being such an impossible thing to quantify. It's unlikely that apes would make the connection between mating and babies. But we know contraception was used 4000 years ago. The knowledge must have developed alongside consciousness. But that didn't happen one morning around the camp fire. It likely occurred in fits and starts (evolutionary leaps).

Yes, I know but it may well have taken quite a few leaps of intelligence to work it out - what seems blindingly obvious to us now is due to the huge leaps we have made in a few short centuries. They used to believe that embryos were tiny fully formed replicas of babies after all!
If they were spiritual (and there is evidence to suggest they were even 50,000 years ago) they may have believed initially that babies came about that way.
Who knows!? We never will, that's for sure!

Yes I agree. I just tried to counteract the idea that it was ONE caveman who worked it out. Surely it happened over millennia.

Bonkers thread.

blinder - what on earth are you getting all worked up about?

You have answered the question in a knowledgable way, you obviously have some interest in the topic, so why cant you just aproach the conversation in a conversational way? Dont you enjoy talking about things that interst you? Dont you sometimes ponder random shite?

Its weird that you obviously want to take part in the conversation but can only do it while expressing disdain at the topic being raised at all.

Yes, bonkers, but sometimes it's fun to talk nonsense.

I agree, this thread's excellent. While I see blinder's point about being very rational and factual about it, I think the original question was more a wistful pondering. Let's face it, if (hu)mankind had never WONDERED about things, we probably wouldn't have got very far!

My personal wondering is who first dug up a celeriac and thought 'Mmmm, that looks DELICIOUS, I'm going to spend five hours getting all the soil out of all its crevices, three more hours peeling and dicing it, then mash it up with some potato to serve with.... OOH, that pig over there. May have to kill it first or it might object to being slow roasted over that hot flamey thing I just discovered.'

Blinder, you're very intelligent, you just need a little whimsy :)

Jeremy I think I got drawn in by Jacksmania misunderstanding my posts and patronising me and I just felt a compelling need to put everyone straight.

I'm not proud of myself.

But I'm less worked up than I seem. I'm just incredulous tbh. Sorry!

But no-one said that one caveman worked it out! I still don't see how the connection between sex and babies is obvious, btw; can you explain that to me, in the light of my previous posts?

Trinaluce I've got whimsy pouring out of my ears. I got into the spirit of the thing by wondering who had the first shit. But no-one joined in. Similar question after all.

And I spent the first half of this thread pissing myself but no-one else could see how hilariously stupid it was. Meh. Carry on ladies.

OLKN I think I've explained the 'penis goes in baby come out' thing enough.

Off to bed for me I think. I wonder which caveman fell asleep first?

Night all.

Ho hum, and I've explained the time gap/repetitive sex thing...

Excellent thread.

I often think about coffee. Who thought, " I am going to pick these beans, then roast them, then grind them, then pour water over them to make a delicious drink that will make mornings more pleasant."

Blinder
I agree with JM. You are obviously knowledgeable, if you would just impart that knowledge without the patronising comments, the thread would be much more interesting.

Then perhaps some posters would ask you questions about your theory and a actual discussion would commence.

Blinder, it isn't about "winning" or "losing". It's about sharing interesting information in a constructive way. Please read back over your posts - ending a post with "jeez" and "bangs head on wall" isn't constructive, it's patronizing and rude.

I totally agree about the coffee. Because on their own they taste awful. Someone was very clever to grind them up.

I really didn't try to be patronising and I don't usually get that criticism but I'll take your word for it ML. Apologies.

Really going to bed now.

And I'm sorry but I am PMSL at the fact that you think I'm patronizing you :o
That's funnier than this entire thread - which is pretty hilarious!

I wonder who first thought of beating the crap out of a pail of milk for hours and then spreading the resulting substance over toast (since we've already wondered who first thought of making toast :o).
I mean, cheese could be accidental. Butter? Not so much. You have to put some effort into butter!

Jacksmania you've been goading me from the beginning. Give it a rest. It's got nothing to do with winning. Absolutely. Stop putting words in my mouth.

How are you? ? Or chocolate?

We need a chocolate emoticon.