Stop the Abolition of DLA

[Glitterknickaz]

The government are proposing to get rid of DLA in favour of PIP. full consultation here

Riven started a fantastic thread in Chat with the very pertinent point that this applies to everyone, that every one of us could be just one step from disability themselves.

There is NOTHING in the media about this. These proposals could mean poverty for the disabled and their families in this country. It could leave some in residential care completely isolated from their families and support networks through the removal of the mobility component.

My family has already been hit three times through the NHS, education and aiming high, via the cuts, if they now remove the money from our pockets we are going to be in a heat or eat situation.

Please MNHQ do something, as many are oblivious to these proposals and what they will mean, including those who themselves already claim DLA.

How is sleeping at night ever equated with time off. Have you been drinking?

so without DLA no home? not enough to buy food and clothes? i think not

Great Will, so what's the plan then that only you seem to know about that will save so many from sleeping with the pigs?

drink yes, drunk no. glad you can quote Chaucer however my moniker is more to do with bieng a motherless child

In fact, even WITH DLA we are having to sell our home as it isn't enough.

interesting language here, a twat indeed because calling people that will help, sleeping with pigs?!?

I do believe it helped the person saying it.

FFS bugger off. The situation is bad enough as it is without bigots coming on and denying it even exists. Take yourself and your lack of imagination somewhere else and do keep inside that soft bubble or you might just find that the unthinkable puts you where some of us are now.

sounds like and expensive house to live in

wtf are you talking about. I haven't mentioned anything about it. We have no central heating, wooden and rotten windows that let the snow in. We are mortaged up to the eyeballs in order to pay for ds' therapy and tribunal for therapy and have the foresight to know that we will have the house reposessed when the inevitable interest rates soar.

We live in a tiny house in one of the most deprived areas on our county. You're talking out of your arse!

Don't feed it, Staying.

Docfunk you are an ignorant excuse for a human and haven't a fucking clue about disability. A very limited number of disabilities are picked up during ante natal scans, an extremely limited number indeed. There is no way of diagnosing most conditions before birth, and many aren't diagnosed till much later on. That's not to mention people who become disabled later in life.

My dd is severely autistic. There is NO WAY of knowing that during pregnancy, no way at all. She was diagnosed at 2.5 years, before that I had no idea, I didn't even really know what autism was. So what was I meant to do with my 2 year old???? Oh yeah, what every parent in my situation does - make the best of it, learn as much as possible, strive to give them the best, try to get the right help so that they can grow up and learn to the best of their ability. What do you suggest I should have done? Actually, don't bother answering, I don't want to know.

buzzyB that's incredible what you say about claiming multiple benefits. I've been disabled at one level or another for at least 8 years, and have never even heard of some of these (it's not like the agencies fall over themselves to inform you).

It's really odd, because I remember back in the days when I needed housing benefit, the forms asked if you were receiving certain other benefits, or even had an application pending, because these would be taken into account. So although I bet there were people who lied, once the system caught up with them they had committed actual fraud and could be dealt with.

This sounds like sometimes agencies (is this DWP vs local council?) simply don't ask what the other is providing - mad, considering the depths of questioning and humiliation we go through to fill in the medical and capacity parts of the forms.

move then

where to?

Bear in mind I have a disabled ds and need certain adaptations to the property to make it possible/safe.

Bear in mind I already live in a tiny place in the most deprived part of my county and my ds' statement of provision is FOR that county and not easily transferable without another tribunal which I cannot now afford even WITH DLA?

Bear in mind I have neither a TV, nor mobile phone nor even working oven to sell.

"This sounds like sometimes agencies (is this DWP vs local council?) simply don't ask what the other is providing - mad, considering the depths of questioning and humiliation we go through to fill in the medical and capacity parts of the forms."

Hell, IB/ESA and HB don't (and in my experience wont) talk to each other. It's difficult to believe they are all part of one big system the way they are so separate.

Don't feed it, Staying.

you own a house. homeless people in your situation are given a suitable house, go figure

Starting LOOK! LOOK OVER THERE!

More along there, busy thread, important business, lots to do.

off to bed - night.

Don't mind feeding the troll tbh, because it is a chance to illustrate the reality that lots of people just don't realise.

I've used the ham bone for the third night in a row for yet another 'soup' for my kids, neither of which can actually use a spoon but there you go.

But I manage because I don't suffer from mental health of depression like the majority of other careers and am lucky enough to have been born with some useful internal resources that mean I can be imaginative and strategic. But they aren't resources available to all, and even to those to whom they are, they often aren't well enough or rested enough to use them.

I do however, suffer with spelling issues - but perhaps that's the lack of vitamins in my diet.

LOL at cage

Yes, poverty.
No food.
No heat.
No roof.

Without DLA we don't get carers. Without carers we don't get Income Support. Without Income support we don't get Housing Benefit or Council Tax Benefit.

So no money then.
No way of working.
Still three disabled kids.

Poverty. That is the correct definition.

cage - love it lol

I hate to see a thread that could be positive fall to trolls. Do we have an "ignore" function that we can ignore certain posters?? If we don't, then we should...

I've never understood why people don't simply ignore the threads that they don't feel they can support. It's different on a AIBU as people are literally asking for opinions. This thread, however, is specifically for support to stop the abolition of DLA (hint for those of you who are dissenters - READ THE TITLE!! ), so if you can't get behind that, simply don't participate in the thread. It's not rocket science...

they've only been in for 6 months but isn't this already the worst government ever in this country? 2.5 million unemployed was announced yesterday- 1 million are under 25s with neither jobs nor education. They are soon to be joined by the over 1 million sacked public servants, policemen and prison officers( when more prisons closed down)and the 1 million who provide services to them, ie over 4.5 million soon. The private sector have not come up with any jobs for all these people and the banks are still not lending them any money but continue to pay themselves millions in bonuses- Golman Sachs bank announce record profits and an average wage per employee of half a million- REALLY! They have now set about demolishing the NHS- GPs cannot manage the £80,000million a year of the NHS, they can't even get the flu vaccine organised! schools have lost millions of improvements, students loose their EMA grants and now have to find at least £30,000 to pay off their educational funding.Inflation is about 5% and rising, petrol at record prices (I saw £1.33/litre today)and wages depressed or even cut. Where are we going, folks? they tell us they've voted themselves in for 5 years now, so how can we get rid of them?