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Savings in my name stopping Universal Credit despite low income

699 replies

slowingdown1 · 29/07/2026 23:22

can anyone more financially savvy than me help?
Recently divorced, ex DH pays minimum child maintenance. Have a low
income due to home working in low demand role so I can care
for 2 x disabled children. Yearly
salary is £31k before tax, I save £100 monthly into pension. I claim Scottish disability payments for both kids which go on private treatment / therapies. Each month I scrap by and have a constant low credit card debt despite my best efforts. I have savings that were gifted to me by my mum as long-term financial security of £80k. Although the money is legally in my name, I have made a firm promise to her that I will not use it, so morally I do not feel able to touch it until she is no longer with us.
My current income is low, but because these savings are in my name, they are preventing me from applying for Universal Credit as above
the threshold.
I understand I can’t eg transfer the savings into trusts for my kids as this would constitute deprivation of capital. I can’t ask my mum to eg take it back for the same reason.

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BringBackCatsEyes · 31/07/2026 12:05

Pickledonion1999 · 31/07/2026 11:49

Where did I say it was outrageous? I haven't said anything of the sort ? i was just clarifying the amount op had bene told she could claim if she was under the savings limit?

Edited

Why the double exclamation marks then?
A simple statement would have been enough.

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 31/07/2026 12:06

slowingdown1 · 29/07/2026 23:55

I don’t want to fritter away anyone’s money 😵‍💫I just want to make
ends meet. As I’ve explained several times now, I have been advised that spending it will be treated as deliberately giving it away and will still count as me being over
the claim threshold. Hence why I was told it’s a kind catch -22.

Chipping away at savings is what happens when you're in a period of needing more money than you earn.

Spending that £80k slowly on everyday expenses to make ends meet couldn't be considered a deprivation of assets, that's what you're expected to do. Who told you it would be?

Crikeyalmighty · 31/07/2026 12:07

BringBackCatsEyes · 31/07/2026 12:03

Does your friend claim disability benefits for her son?

Not 100% sure in all honesty , I haven’t asked, she certainly though has used it to justify why she can’t work more than 8 hours a week ( doesn’t want to) and gets a ton of child maintanance too

inthequietofdawn · 31/07/2026 12:08

Crikeyalmighty · 31/07/2026 12:02

Has OP said what are the disability issues ? A friend of mine describes her son as disabled - he has type 1 diabetes- whilst a total pain in the arse and needs careful managing, it doesn’t actually cost more to live and in my opinion he isn’t disabled, just has a chronic condition. Being honest my viewpoint depends on the individual situation and amount of extra costs likely involved. And yes I do feel very sorry indeed for anyone who genuinely has severely disabled children - sometimes it’s hard to judge though without a full picture, I guess my views have changed having encountered several people who have played on this - 1 with diabetes, the others with ADHD

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OP doesn’t need to share the details. In relation to UC, she has said she has severely disabled DC, which means they receive high rate care CDP. If you read her posts, her DC are clearly disabled and they have disability related expenses.

T1D absolutely is a disability as per the Equality Act. Many with T1D have additional costs.

Many with ADHD have additional costs too.

Your posts are just showing your lack of understanding about disability.

BringBackCatsEyes · 31/07/2026 12:08

inthequietofdawn · 31/07/2026 11:44

There isn’t a set upper limit for how much someone can earn. There are people who are eligible for UC despite earning more than £60k.

Outliers surely? Can you give examples?
As per…..this thread is turning into benefits bashing.

inthequietofdawn · 31/07/2026 12:18

BringBackCatsEyes · 31/07/2026 12:08

Outliers surely? Can you give examples?
As per…..this thread is turning into benefits bashing.

Where are my posts benefit bashing? Nowhere.

It isn’t every case, obviously, but it’s certainly not rare. For example, a couple over 25 with 2 DC and the full childcare element with £5k earnings per month.

Standard element £666.97
Child element x2 £303.94 x2
Childcare element £1,836.16
Total = £3,111.01

£5000 - £710 (the work allowance) = £4,290

£4,290 x 0.55 = £2,359.50 (the earning deduction)

£3,111.01 - £2,359.50 = £751.51

That’s just one example. There are other ways such as having a high rent element or having disabled DC.

fundamentallyauthentic · 31/07/2026 12:19

anyolddinosaur · 31/07/2026 09:05

OP lots of people on mumsnet post about things they know nothing about. They can make a situation look far more complex than it is by giving wrong information. Therefore if you have any sense you listen only to those telling you the official government advice. It that becomes a lot more simple - you pay off your credit card debt, you pay down your mortgage. Should the question of deprivation of assets come up for your mother - it wont for you - then you can always increase your mortgage again or care for your mother for a period equal to covering the money.

And for all the people saying the council can look back as far as they like - they can indeed but they are unlikely to get more than 7 years bank statements because banks dont keep them forever.

Good point about the bank records - they can only keep records for seven years, I believe. But let's say they check that OP's mum sold her house (hypothetical scenario) in in 2018 and how much they sold for, would the LA just stop investigating because they can't access OP's mum bank statements? I find that an unlikely prospect.

Buggeroffboss · 31/07/2026 13:44

Crikeyalmighty · 31/07/2026 12:02

Has OP said what are the disability issues ? A friend of mine describes her son as disabled - he has type 1 diabetes- whilst a total pain in the arse and needs careful managing, it doesn’t actually cost more to live and in my opinion he isn’t disabled, just has a chronic condition. Being honest my viewpoint depends on the individual situation and amount of extra costs likely involved. And yes I do feel very sorry indeed for anyone who genuinely has severely disabled children - sometimes it’s hard to judge though without a full picture, I guess my views have changed having encountered several people who have played on this - 1 with diabetes, the others with ADHD

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It absolutely is a disability. It can impact whether he'll be able to drive, what jobs he can, what sports and what level he can participate at. It increases risk of nerve damage, blindness and other conditions.

When he is at work it'll impact his ability to work longer hours or do some elements of a job which could impact his career prospects.

Travel insurance and life insur will cost much much more.

It sounds like he has well managed diabetes but if it becomes difficult to manage for whatever reason, the impacts for the whole family could be huge.

anyolddinosaur · 31/07/2026 17:53

@fundamentallyauthentic Some people are obviously very determined that OP should not be able to claim a penny. We dont know that OP's mum sold anything, we dont now if she had additional savings. Mum is now confused and if she remembers ever having any money could have spent in on anything. The local authority finding proof of anything is unlikely.

After a diagnosis of dementia the average person lives just 9 years. Sorry, OP, this could all become academic before long.

Edited because you might look into whether there are carers allowances if you end up looking after your mum at home.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 31/07/2026 18:04

Crikeyalmighty · 31/07/2026 12:07

Not 100% sure in all honesty , I haven’t asked, she certainly though has used it to justify why she can’t work more than 8 hours a week ( doesn’t want to) and gets a ton of child maintanance too

Do you have disabled children? If you did you would know it is very hard for parents of SEN to work full time or at all.

fundamentallyauthentic · 31/07/2026 18:20

@anyolddinosaur My point is that LA’s are very tenacious when it comes to investigating anyone they suspect of deliberately depriving their assets. If OP’s mum did sell a property then it would take them not much time at all to find out this information and when and how much it sold for. Land Registry info for property sales goes back to 1995.

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 31/07/2026 18:30

You have money, the taxpayer shouldn't have to support you.

bestcatlife · 31/07/2026 18:38

the savings limit for UC is 16k. If you have 80k in the bank you’re committing fraud.

dscugie · 31/07/2026 18:54

bestcatlife · 31/07/2026 18:38

the savings limit for UC is 16k. If you have 80k in the bank you’re committing fraud.

Calm down. OP isn’t claiming UC, so no fraud.

BringBackCatsEyes · 31/07/2026 19:01

DontBuyAnotherBook · 31/07/2026 18:04

Do you have disabled children? If you did you would know it is very hard for parents of SEN to work full time or at all.

I think only in rare cases would a child be registered as disabled with T1 diabetes, thus qualifying the parent to not be obliged to look for full time work.
I think it unlikely that there are many parents of T1 diabetic children who feel they can only work 8 hrs a week because of their child's disease.

Kirbert2 · 31/07/2026 19:03

Crikeyalmighty · 31/07/2026 12:02

Has OP said what are the disability issues ? A friend of mine describes her son as disabled - he has type 1 diabetes- whilst a total pain in the arse and needs careful managing, it doesn’t actually cost more to live and in my opinion he isn’t disabled, just has a chronic condition. Being honest my viewpoint depends on the individual situation and amount of extra costs likely involved. And yes I do feel very sorry indeed for anyone who genuinely has severely disabled children - sometimes it’s hard to judge though without a full picture, I guess my views have changed having encountered several people who have played on this - 1 with diabetes, the others with ADHD

Edited

OP hasn't said what disabilities but has described them as severe and mentions spending DLA plus more on carers and therapies as well as also mentioning multiple hospital stays.

OP may not want to share their disabilities, especially considering the fact that some people on here may decide that they aren't severe with little to no experience of the disabilities.

inthequietofdawn · 31/07/2026 19:12

BringBackCatsEyes · 31/07/2026 19:01

I think only in rare cases would a child be registered as disabled with T1 diabetes, thus qualifying the parent to not be obliged to look for full time work.
I think it unlikely that there are many parents of T1 diabetic children who feel they can only work 8 hrs a week because of their child's disease.

That isn’t true.

T1D meets the definition of having a disability under the Equality Act.

Having a disability as per the Equality Act isn’t what enables a someone to claim carer’s allowance &/or turn off UC’s work commitments and receiving UC’s carer element. It is the child being cared for receiving mid or high rate DLA that does that. It isn’t rare for children with T1D to be eligible for MRC or HRC.

BringBackCatsEyes · 31/07/2026 19:25

inthequietofdawn · 31/07/2026 19:12

That isn’t true.

T1D meets the definition of having a disability under the Equality Act.

Having a disability as per the Equality Act isn’t what enables a someone to claim carer’s allowance &/or turn off UC’s work commitments and receiving UC’s carer element. It is the child being cared for receiving mid or high rate DLA that does that. It isn’t rare for children with T1D to be eligible for MRC or HRC.

Apologies and thanks for correcting me.

Bakeittillyoumakeit · 31/07/2026 20:02

Use it to pay off a chunk of your mortgage. You might or might not be able to claim UC but you will be better off anyway because your mortgage payments will be much lower.

The talk of deprivation of assets might have been in relation more to your mum rather than you perhaps? Her giving away money if she needed it for care home costs would be seen as deprivation of assets. Or there may be inheritance tax to pay on it if she dies within 7 years and has a large estate.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 31/07/2026 20:36

BringBackCatsEyes · 31/07/2026 19:01

I think only in rare cases would a child be registered as disabled with T1 diabetes, thus qualifying the parent to not be obliged to look for full time work.
I think it unlikely that there are many parents of T1 diabetic children who feel they can only work 8 hrs a week because of their child's disease.

To be fair I was thinking more about autism. I didn't see it was about diabetes.

Marroon · 31/07/2026 20:40

BringBackCatsEyes · 31/07/2026 19:01

I think only in rare cases would a child be registered as disabled with T1 diabetes, thus qualifying the parent to not be obliged to look for full time work.
I think it unlikely that there are many parents of T1 diabetic children who feel they can only work 8 hrs a week because of their child's disease.

Whether you like it or not T1 is a registered disability. You clearly have no experience of what it takes to care for a child with T1.

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/07/2026 22:28

inthequietofdawn · 31/07/2026 11:28

OP isn’t getting PIP. She is getting CDP for her DC. PIP/ADP is for adults. DLA/CDP is for children.

CDP and child maintenance are not counted as income for UC purposes.

UC could well be £1.7k.

Standard element £424.90
Child element x2 £303.94 x2
Severely disabled child element x2 £514.71 x2
Carer element £209.34
Total = £2,271.54

OP says her take home pay is £2k (just for this calculation I am working on the assumption there are no deductions other than tax, NI and pension contributions).

£2000 - £710 (the work allowance) = £1,290

£1,290 x 0.55 = £709.50 (the earning deduction)

£2,271.54 - £709.50 = £1,562.04

This could be more depending on DC1’s age or if she would have the childcare element.

Having disabled DC can be incredibly expensive. Many find their disability related expenses are not covered by their disability benefits. Anyone who is resentful of a family who have 2 disabled DC with complex needs have clearly never parented a severely disabled child.

Yep. Have friends and family who have children who have dla and their life is hard

so yes anything that a parent can get while having children with additional needs they deserve

Crikeyalmighty · 31/07/2026 23:01

Buggeroffboss · 31/07/2026 13:44

It absolutely is a disability. It can impact whether he'll be able to drive, what jobs he can, what sports and what level he can participate at. It increases risk of nerve damage, blindness and other conditions.

When he is at work it'll impact his ability to work longer hours or do some elements of a job which could impact his career prospects.

Travel insurance and life insur will cost much much more.

It sounds like he has well managed diabetes but if it becomes difficult to manage for whatever reason, the impacts for the whole family could be huge.

I don’t disagree with any of this - I do however disagree that with a child of 14 that plays football multiple times a week and is out the house at school every day and condition is well managed that she can’t work more and hence claims in full -plenty of others do manage to do so -

BringBackCatsEyes · 01/08/2026 00:48

Marroon · 31/07/2026 20:40

Whether you like it or not T1 is a registered disability. You clearly have no experience of what it takes to care for a child with T1.

I already apologised for not understanding T1 diabetes.
I now understand that children will be able to claim DLA and that their parent can register as their full time carer, thus removing them from the requirement to find work if claiming UC.
Am I right in thinking that it would become more challenging the older the child is, as (ideally) they are better able to self-manage their own care?
Once again, I apologise for my ignorant post.