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Savings in my name stopping Universal Credit despite low income

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slowingdown1 · 29/07/2026 23:22

can anyone more financially savvy than me help?
Recently divorced, ex DH pays minimum child maintenance. Have a low
income due to home working in low demand role so I can care
for 2 x disabled children. Yearly
salary is £31k before tax, I save £100 monthly into pension. I claim Scottish disability payments for both kids which go on private treatment / therapies. Each month I scrap by and have a constant low credit card debt despite my best efforts. I have savings that were gifted to me by my mum as long-term financial security of £80k. Although the money is legally in my name, I have made a firm promise to her that I will not use it, so morally I do not feel able to touch it until she is no longer with us.
My current income is low, but because these savings are in my name, they are preventing me from applying for Universal Credit as above
the threshold.
I understand I can’t eg transfer the savings into trusts for my kids as this would constitute deprivation of capital. I can’t ask my mum to eg take it back for the same reason.

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slowingdown1 · 30/07/2026 20:02

Asb04 · 30/07/2026 20:00

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slowingdown1 · 30/07/2026 20:03

Seeingadistance · 30/07/2026 19:56

OP - men and women of your mother's generation are very much aware of care costs and there are those who think they can and/or should act to avoid those costs.

The most obvious and simple explanation for your mother giving you that money soon after her diagnosis was that she hoped to avoid care costs, but was aware that her ploy might not succeed, and that she would still need the money to pay for care - and that's why she transferred the money from her bank account to yours - but told you not to spend it till after her death. Because she might need it back!

She was far too muddled and forgetful by then to have come up with this.

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Seeingadistance · 30/07/2026 20:10

slowingdown1 · 30/07/2026 20:03

She was far too muddled and forgetful by then to have come up with this.

But it may well have been something that she had discussed with others - friends of her own age - in the years or months before the diagnosis. Perhaps a friend of hers suggested she do it or encouraged her to do it.

To be honest, I don't think you should have accepted a large sum of money from an elderly woman that you admit was muddled and forgetful at the time - and had a diagnosis of Alzheimer's. I've already said that you should have immediately returned it and made sure that there was a written record of that.

Hadenough2022 · 30/07/2026 20:11

You are not entitled to benefits if your capital is over £16k. You can apply once it is under that amount. If you have spent it on living such as paying housing etc that is fine. Citizens advice have given you bad advice.
deprivation of capital is when you give the money away such as putting it into an account for your children which will still deemed to be your money or if you fritter it.

Seeingadistance · 30/07/2026 20:16

OP - my DF has Alzheimers - first showed the signs when he was 80 - he's now 92 and has been in a nursing home for 3 1/2 years. He is extremely frail - can't move, speak or do anything for himself. He's been in that state for a couple of years now - seems to be existing on a plateau, and could possibly live for more years yet.

The nursing home cost £60k per year when he went in. It now costs £80k a year.

Another poster mentioned taking out an annuity to cover care costs. With your brother being abroad, and you having enough worries of your own - this would be something well worth looking into. Then even if your brother's circumstances change in future years, you have the comfort of knowing that your mother's care costs are covered.

Buggeroffboss · 30/07/2026 20:18

slowingdown1 · 30/07/2026 19:45

Assumption, much?! I have no interest in my mum? mind blowing.
i have every faith my brother will follow through on his offer to cover her
care costs if and when necessary. He is very financially secure (not envious just a fact). I care for my mum and have her best intentions at heart. Stop needling.

I really, really hope hat you are right and he does come through - care is extremely expensive.

And I know you hope to care for her, but advanced dementia is a 24 hour job - very different to a nurse on shift.

slowingdown1 · 30/07/2026 20:19

Seeingadistance · 30/07/2026 20:16

OP - my DF has Alzheimers - first showed the signs when he was 80 - he's now 92 and has been in a nursing home for 3 1/2 years. He is extremely frail - can't move, speak or do anything for himself. He's been in that state for a couple of years now - seems to be existing on a plateau, and could possibly live for more years yet.

The nursing home cost £60k per year when he went in. It now costs £80k a year.

Another poster mentioned taking out an annuity to cover care costs. With your brother being abroad, and you having enough worries of your own - this would be something well worth looking into. Then even if your brother's circumstances change in future years, you have the comfort of knowing that your mother's care costs are covered.

I am so sorry. Thank you, that’s a really helpful suggestion.

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BringBackCatsEyes · 30/07/2026 20:31

fundamentallyauthentic · 30/07/2026 19:41

Have you heard of these things called trusts?

The LA won’t care what OP or what OP’s mum
gives as the reason for OP’s mum to give £80k to OP shortly after OP’s mum was diagnosed with dementia. I’ve said earlier that every LA has a team that investigates cases where people have possibly deprived themselves of assets. There’s no hiding.

I know this.
I just don’t think OP’s Mum was deliberately trying to move her assets to avoid care costs.
That’s all.

ChaiLou · 30/07/2026 20:35

slowingdown1 · 30/07/2026 20:03

She was far too muddled and forgetful by then to have come up with this.

If she isn't reliable with her finances, do you have power of attorney?

cestlavielife · 30/07/2026 20:52

Seeingadistance · 30/07/2026 19:48

No need to go to the bother of setting up a trust. A pretty standard will leaving the money to the grandchildren would be easier to set up - and would be a better way of ensuring that the money wasn't spent until after granny had died.

And it would have saved the OP from the nuisance of £80k in her bank account, preventing her from claiming universal credit!

Actually if the grandchildren are severely disabled op should get advice now on setting a trust for them. Mencap give advice.

dscugie · 30/07/2026 21:00

slowingdown1 · 30/07/2026 20:03

She was far too muddled and forgetful by then to have come up with this.

If she was that muddled and forgetful by then perhaps you should have given her money straight back?

BlueFahrenheit · 30/07/2026 21:17

dscugie · 30/07/2026 21:00

If she was that muddled and forgetful by then perhaps you should have given her money straight back?

Nothing the OP says makes much sense. It's all contradictory and inflammatory.

Ayarreet · 30/07/2026 22:36

BlueFahrenheit · 30/07/2026 21:17

Nothing the OP says makes much sense. It's all contradictory and inflammatory.

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Aye, it's all nonsense.

Ayarreet · 30/07/2026 22:40

cestlavielife · 30/07/2026 20:52

Actually if the grandchildren are severely disabled op should get advice now on setting a trust for them. Mencap give advice.

Or seek help from children services which, as they are profoundly disabled she should, as I did, have a hotline to. Mine is now an adult and all services still fully engaged.

Ayarreet · 30/07/2026 22:41

Hoists are supplied and renewed when required.
Grants are given for wet rooms etc. etc. etc.

Ayarreet · 30/07/2026 22:43

OP and bro have tried to squirrel away DM's savings and now it's come back to bite them.
House with staff😂

Buggeroffboss · 30/07/2026 23:21

Ayarreet · 30/07/2026 22:41

Hoists are supplied and renewed when required.
Grants are given for wet rooms etc. etc. etc.

Depends where you are. Grants can be extremely hard to get unfortunate. And replacement of even necessary equipment can take weeks or months. Social care funding is absolutely bottom of the heap in some areas.

SorrellNightwind · 30/07/2026 23:34

slowingdown1 · 30/07/2026 17:49

Thank you so much, I’ll do this. I have a hoist but it’s more trouble than help as constantly malfunctions.

These are essential things you can spend money on though.

Paying down some of your mortgage is also a good plan

slowingdown1 · 30/07/2026 23:45

Buggeroffboss · 30/07/2026 23:21

Depends where you are. Grants can be extremely hard to get unfortunate. And replacement of even necessary equipment can take weeks or months. Social care funding is absolutely bottom of the heap in some areas.

Sadly this is my experience

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slowingdown1 · 30/07/2026 23:48

Ayarreet · 30/07/2026 22:43

OP and bro have tried to squirrel away DM's savings and now it's come back to bite them.
House with staff😂

takes a pretty small minded person to laugh at an older person with demetia and 2 complex needs medical kids. Out of all the helpful comments here you pick up on the fact my brother lives abroad and can afford staff which is fairly common there? I hope you aren’t bringing up your children to be embody schadenfreude as much as you.

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Ayarreet · 31/07/2026 00:07

slowingdown1 · 30/07/2026 23:48

takes a pretty small minded person to laugh at an older person with demetia and 2 complex needs medical kids. Out of all the helpful comments here you pick up on the fact my brother lives abroad and can afford staff which is fairly common there? I hope you aren’t bringing up your children to be embody schadenfreude as much as you.

If that's your interpretation of my post, OP then it's no wonder you didn't understand the advice the bloke from CAB was giving you.

slowingdown1 · 31/07/2026 00:43

Ayarreet · 31/07/2026 00:07

If that's your interpretation of my post, OP then it's no wonder you didn't understand the advice the bloke from CAB was giving you.

the world could do with some more kindness to those facing hard medical scares each day. Maybe one day you’ll get that. I hope so. Not because you’ll face it yourself, but because you’ll mature in your understanding.

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tellmesomethingtrue · 31/07/2026 00:52

I earn £19k pa and have £2k in the bank. I get UC. You don’t need it.

sashh · 31/07/2026 04:53

OP

Did the CAB say how much UC you would be entitled to if you did not have savings?

Just 'pay yourself' that amount out of the lump sum.

So if UC would be £300 a month, then take £300 a month out of your £80K. That means you will be living on what the law says you need as a minimum.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 31/07/2026 05:15

Ayarreet · 31/07/2026 00:07

If that's your interpretation of my post, OP then it's no wonder you didn't understand the advice the bloke from CAB was giving you.

To be fair your post wasn’t nice.