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Mortgage offer withdrawn after exchange, can I still complete next week?

186 replies

Miffed1233 · Today 02:17

Exchanged contracts Thursday for completion next Friday. Buyer below me and I’m buying ex rental which is at top of chain

randomly bank withdraw offer Friday afternoon, 24 hrs after exchanging)saying credit rating changed therefore affordability impacted. Have a call at 9am Saturday. Wtf absolutely nothing I can think of that would have changed and my Experian score is very strong still. Any advice - is there any way I can still complete in 6 days?!

any solicitors or bankers on here?

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Miffed1233 · Today 07:43

Whenwilltherainstopitsboringnow · Today 07:26

Property solicitor here.

Banks can withdraw an offer until it’s drawn down even after full offer. It’s in the Ts and Cs have a look at those before you call because sometimes they set out the reasons for this.

What I would say is that dependent on your bank your solicitor can get funds on the same day as requesting them so all is not lost. Hopefully the lender will see sense this morning.

Good luck.

Thank you - that is very helpful to know

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Miffed1233 · Today 07:44

ZanyMaker · Today 06:33

The increased CC limit could be impacting. Is there anything else you can think of? Have you spent more on your CC or taken out any new lines of credit (e.g. phone contract, furniture, utilities)?

Good luck!

Ordered broadband to be installed at new property and took out home insurance which I sent to the bank yesterday

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ilikeachallenge · Today 07:44

Tigerbalmshark · Today 07:38

I’ve read horror stories of people buying furniture or appliances for their new house on interest free credit between exchange and completion, and that being enough to have the mortgage offer pulled

I would always use a credit card for big purchases for the consumer protection, which presumably looks even worse.

It’s kind of baffling that people don’t know that this is a possibility, and that their actions won’t have consequences

Glowingup · Today 07:55

When I’ve bought and sold the last couple of times, we’ve exchanged and completed the same day which stops shit like this happening. What idiots. Hopefully it will get sorted.

Walkingroundincircle22 · Today 08:00

Miffed1233 · Today 04:19

Indeed. It wasn’t an AIP. . Full offer was received some months ago - solicitor should have applied for funds and as far as we know probably did so after exchange on Thursday or Friday

That's awfyl, perhaps as it was some months ago, that explains possible change to score. I was under the impression mortgage applications were done very near the end of the process, not months before.

Really hope your bank sorts something, how stressful. Surely your solicitor is at fault here?

Morepositivemum · Today 08:03

This whole thread is pointless until they say to you ‘on x day x funds tried to come out of your account and couldn’t’ or ‘such and such a bill seems to have hugely increased showing there would be less of a possibility to pay’ etc etc. Things change and I’d assume banks can withdraw if it shows you’re not secure. Crossing everything it’s an error op x

FridayOnMyMind · Today 08:10

Helpyourkids · Today 04:21

It's obvious that a lender cannot withdraw willy nilly after exchange, having confirmed to the solicitor that all criteria for the mortgage advance have been met.

But they can and do withdraw if they believe that something has changed.

OP, the credit agencies can make mistakes, the first step is to sign up for each one (they do not all hold the same information) and check your file. Look to see if there’s anything in there might have caused this. Have your solicitor ask your lender for details and ask them yourself. At the same time get applying with new lenders.

Good luck, I hope a mistake has been made that can be corrected.

onmylastnerveseriously · Today 08:10

OP this is absolutely shocking, if they don’t sort it this morning I would raise absolute merry hell on all channels. Best of luck

ThatLilacTiger · Today 08:12

Helpyourkids · Today 04:05

I know an AIP is not a full offer but a solicitor deals with the lender direct and should not exchange contracts if they have not made sure the mortgage monies will be forthcoming. Likewise a lender cannot really withdraw an offer after exchange of contracts as costs and liabilities will have been incurred by various parties.

Omg you need to stop posting, you're wrong on all accounts.

DivorcedButHappyNow · Today 08:13

My DH leads mortgages for a big lender. He said this is rare. Your solicitor should be contacting the lender with the below to ask how their action fits the criteria. Who is the lender as he might have more insight.

MCOB 6A.3.1R Requires that a firm provides a ‘binding offer’ to a consumer.

MCOB 6A3.3G clarifies that the binding offer may be subject to lawful conditions on the following:

  1. There being no material change to the facts and circumstances which occurs after the date on which the offer is made, including changes to the condition, value or title of the property or the customer’s circumstances (such as loss of employment or increased secured borrowing) which has a material impact on their ability to afford the loan.
  2. The customer has not knowingly provided incomplete or inaccurate information for the purposes of the affordability assessment and has not knowingly falsified or withheld information.
FridayOnMyMind · Today 08:13

Miffed1233 · Today 04:25

Well that is what they did! Just an email at 15:00 saying offer withdrawn based on a drop in credit score - Theo irony is very same bank increased my cc limit a few weeks ago! I can think of literally nothing that has changed. I’ve not even used the credit card to buy things for the new house yet

Can you check the wording again? I’m surprised that it mentions credit score rather than credit file.

While banks do use internal scoring the phrase “credit score” is more used by the credit agencies looking to sell you extra services. The banks do not use these agencies’ scores; they obtain the contents of your file and make their decision based on this.

AnonymousElephant · Today 08:14

Miffed1233 · Today 07:16

That is the plan. Want to know exactly what triggered the change -my worry is whatever they do to correct it will
have to go back to the underwriters to reapprove and that will take time. Solicitor previously said it takes 5 days to get funds - I really don’t want to lose the deposit because I can’t complete Friday.

IF it does go back to underwriters, then you can push for urgent underwriting to be done. You may have to spell this out to them to do this for it to be done urgently. You may also be asked to provide additional docs or evidence for the underwriters. Again, once sent, do another follow up. You can’t trust them to have the notes written down that this should be marked as urgent.

DontSitThereClare · Today 08:19

I am so sorry this has happened to you. I did read an article a couple of weeks ago about mortgage companies withdrawing their offer when the person was close to exchange and was offered an alternative product which was either less money to lend or a higher rate when no circumstances had changed for the borrower. More likely the lender's lending criteria got stricter.

Mortgages are legal contracts and they can only terminate them on specific circumstances such as changes in financial circumstances, credit rating changes, property issues, suspicious activity and inaccurate information.

Hopefully it will all be sorted and reinstated after your phone call.

xx11x · Today 08:20

If it goes back to underwrites push for it to be looked at urgently, I was a mortgage underwriter briefly and there were often urgent application reviews for similar circumstances.
Hope they get it sorted ASAP. Did you use a mortgage broker or direct to bank? If you used a broker get on at them to speak to their BDMs to put pressure on it being reviewed urgently.

TheRestIsEntertsinent · Today 08:21

Wishing you lots and lots of luck OP.

KookyMoose · Today 08:21

I had a glitch like this when I was buying my second house. I used the broker L and C. They were brilliant . They found us a mortgage that would still take into account the credit rating and they basically saved the day. Been using them ever since

fashionqueen0123 · Today 08:24

I think you need to ring them this morning and insist on an answer, it sounds like they may offer you something else. I also advise getting a broker and getting them to do the work for you if you have to go elsewhere

tenpints · Today 08:27

AnonymousElephant · Today 06:58

Please get on the phone to them again and do not give up until you speak to the right person in mortgages and ask for very specific next steps to get this sorted, and a timeline. They may ask for further documentation or further funds even, or it’s going to their underwriters again, or whatever the case may be, but they will have a reason on the system as to what the exact issue will be. Do not let them fob you off either until you’ve been given the specifics of the problem and what can be done to sort it. Even if it’s a simple error on their part, they must advise when it will be fixed as it’s too close to completion to muck about. If it’s with them to do something further, again, timeline query and call them back again the next day. In these moments you have to hound unfortunately. If you are using a mortgage broker, same applies.

We’ve bought a few times and when we bought our most recent house, Santander started to play silly buggers with us during the mortgage process, very long story - so I ended up looking them up on Trustpilot and read some horrendous things they did to buyers and to people who generally bank with them (as not separated out on there). I was so worried they were going to be pulling any one of these same awful stunts with us in the last moments of the process, because it seemed they could! Thankfully they didn’t pull any very last min issues with us but the whole process was painful and more expensive up to that point using them. Could be worth a read if you have time for tips people give on there in dealing with them. I appreciate you may not be with Santander but for your own lender too a look up on Trustpilot could be rather enlightening.

Best of luck!!

Agreed. Take a day off work if you can and escalate this, hound, them, if they have physical branch go and speak to them. Do not leave/hang up until it’s sorted

ItsPickleRick · Today 08:27

Good luck this morning OP, I’m hoping it’ gets sorted for you!

likelysuspect · Today 08:29

Helpyourkids · Today 04:21

It's obvious that a lender cannot withdraw willy nilly after exchange, having confirmed to the solicitor that all criteria for the mortgage advance have been met.

Of course they can, a lender isnt obliged to lend

tenpints · Today 08:29

OP how long ago was your original mortgage offer? Sometimes they are only valid for a length of time. Ours had to be completed within three months, otherwise we would have needed to go and reapply.
but your solicitor would know this, and it would be clear in the T&Cs

Mt563 · Today 08:30

ilikeachallenge · Today 07:44

It’s kind of baffling that people don’t know that this is a possibility, and that their actions won’t have consequences

Honestly, it seems odd to me that banks approve you for a mortgage knowing your credit limit, presumably take this into account because they'll drop you/ change conditions if your credit limits change, so have allowed for you using that credit limit. But then withdraw the mortgage they approved with that limit in place if you actually use it. To, predictably, buy things for the new house. Seems like having your cake and eating it. But they have us over a barrel so we do just have to do whatever they insist.

Miffed1233 · Today 08:33

tenpints · Today 08:29

OP how long ago was your original mortgage offer? Sometimes they are only valid for a length of time. Ours had to be completed within three months, otherwise we would have needed to go and reapply.
but your solicitor would know this, and it would be clear in the T&Cs

We had assumed 3 months but in fact solicitor checked and it was 6 so we were reassured on that a week or two back. Mortgage was approved early March. And anyway the notification received yesterday just said a drop in credit score and affordability

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concertinacornflake · Today 08:36

ilikeachallenge · Today 07:44

It’s kind of baffling that people don’t know that this is a possibility, and that their actions won’t have consequences

I don't think it is 'baffling', different people understand different things to different extents, and some people are less careful with money/credit overall. I think it's baffling you find it baffling!

WildLurker · Today 08:39

A lot of people are saying it’s the increased credit limit but I doubt it. An increased credit limit won’t decrease a credit score unless you’re near the limit. It will actually help the score. If you have a credit limit of £1000 and have used £100 of credit you are using 10% of the limit. If the limit increases to say £2000, you are now only using 5%, which comes out better on your score as although you can borrow more you’re not.