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Botwatch 89!!!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM.

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Spongebobette · 10/07/2025 10:38

New thread! Welcome to anyone who wants to be better informed about the dodgy practices of multi level marketing companies

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Sugarplum48 · 26/07/2025 22:28

YAWN YOU KNOBHEAD, WE WERE AT YOUR AWFUL WEDDING. YOU. HAVE. NOT. BEEN MARRIED 25 YEARS OR TOGETHER 27. STOP LYING YOU BELL END.

BusWankers · 27/07/2025 07:29

Where are you all seeing this drama?

I looked these women up on IG and it's all just bland and banal posts of them saying stuff like "always improving myself"

Sugarplum48 · 27/07/2025 09:36

Its mostly on their FB stories. Yawn is one of the best in terms of she's the gift that keeps on giving with her ludicrous lies and obsession with being the lead role in her made up pretend life.

Contraryjane · 27/07/2025 10:45

Yawn says her daiquiri is 0%. Can’t see it on the drinks menu.

Wintersgirl · 27/07/2025 11:51

Contraryjane · 27/07/2025 10:45

Yawn says her daiquiri is 0%. Can’t see it on the drinks menu.

I got the impression that they made it specially for her.

Angrymum22 · 27/07/2025 13:19

The bar Yawn is referring to reopened in the week and held a bottomless brunch yesterday. They launched a rewards scheme with “complementary” £20 off first visit if you spent £40 or more, and a free daiquiri. I doubt the Yawns were invited to a private launch.
It’s not the go to social hot lunch spot she makes out. The local social set are more likely to hang out further down the road. 😉

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 27/07/2025 13:25

Sugarplum48 · 26/07/2025 22:28

YAWN YOU KNOBHEAD, WE WERE AT YOUR AWFUL WEDDING. YOU. HAVE. NOT. BEEN MARRIED 25 YEARS OR TOGETHER 27. STOP LYING YOU BELL END.

She has a son in his early twenties so that probably makes sense doesn’t it? Met late teens and married at 20, eldest comes a couple of years later.

YouOKHun · 27/07/2025 14:19

Yawn has been told she is charging too little for her skills as a coach so will be putting her prices up in September.

Possibly unwise to announce this to her present followers (if any of them are paying to be part of the club). I’d be cancelling now given that not much happens in August and a price rise for absolutely nothing would be the prompt to drop the whole thing. The previous price rise that was supposed to happen this month was immediately followed by her Club membership dropping from about 60 to 51. She probably thinks her collaboration with Techie is going to change everything but going by the engagement for all the launches it’s had so far it will fall flat on its face.

When will she accept that what looked like early interest in her coaching endeavour was just post-MLM curiosity and misguided former downlines’ loyalty which has now dissipated. She is a classic case of longterm botting and the delusions of credibility it gives bots though fake rewards and illusions of “climbing the career ladder” within their MLM.

Angrymum22 · 27/07/2025 14:56

Yawns were married July 2001. So 25th anniversary is next year. Didn’t realise that Mr Yawn is 10yrs older than Yawn.

Sugarplum48 · 27/07/2025 15:32

I know exactly how old she was when she married the wet mop of a husband. We all worked with her long enough to know the dates, time line and be made to witness what was one of the most hideous wedding melt downs we've seen in a long time!!! Trust me, no one forgets the bride screeching at her guests 'to get the fuck back into her wedding reception', the same wedding reception we were not allowed to eat at as she had not catered for her work "friends". She just wanted to look popular!!!! we all left and went to a pub.

thetemptationofchocolate · 27/07/2025 17:42

Sugarplum48 Ha ha! Not a classy bride then...

Crikeyalmighty · 27/07/2025 20:05

@Sugarplum48 good grief!!

Sugarplum48 · 27/07/2025 22:12

Honestly it really showed her for who she was and is.

YouOKHun · 28/07/2025 15:01

@BusWankersyou are right, it is bland and banal! Some of the people are ex-MLM trying to make it as coaches by selling people the formula of their supposed success in MLM, some are still in MLM trying to convince others that they are doing better than ever, it is almost always a lie. It helps to have watched them over time to see how they were hooked by MLM often because many of them entered MLM during its brief good times c.2015. A minute proportion have done very well financially from Forever, however they are all doing much less well now even if they’re at the top of the pile (Uber and Bloodsucker) but their success has come at a terrible price for many and the tactics; manipulation and bullying over the years has been pretty horrific. Others made money (though less than Uber and Bloodsucker) through lucky timing but have seen their luck dip year on year, tipping some into debt. Yet through all this they continue to try and recruit into what they say is a flexible and financially lucrative business that will also provide friendships and self esteem by the bucket load.

Doing well isn’t so much a case of talent, knowledge or or ability but rather lucky timing and a willingness to say and do whatever you can to recruit even if it means you are lying about how well it’s going for you and therefore damaging the person you’re recruiting. Castle, for instance, had a lot of family money and because she could play the role of successful she had help from FLP to further this illusion. This illusion enabled recruitment on a big scale. This industry has been dressed up as female empowerment by MLM companies like Forever with people like Castle the figureheads. But really these are the people who are the ones who were the happy to lie and manipulate, others like @JellyStarz walked away when they could see what [temporary] success in MLM would require them to do and what the reality of apparent success in MLM really was.

Castle’s time in FLP left her with an inflated sense of her own talents though her talent for lying about her success never fails and she can be found on social media every day lying about her income and how she can coach others to success.

The MLM companies encourage all of this and pile on the pressure to recruit yet are nowhere to be seen when the bot makes false income or product claims or when serious financial, so is and emotional harm is done to recruits and their families. So while it is banal stuff it is possible to recognise the lies and rewriting of history and to point this out of potential victims. The drama exists in the gap between the bots’ stories and the reality which can be seen on Companies House, in the bots’ own contradictions, in what ex-MLMers tell us and most of all in the way the MLM companies conduct themselves, managing to duck and dive and avoid being called out for the pyramid schemes they are.

It’s tricky to get all this from a post from Yawn about manifesting a pair of beige leggings and a six figure income unless you know to look at her CH accounts and know that her DH has had to return to work and have spotted the contradictions over the years. She’s by far not the only one and there are lots of examples of truth bending or lying on social media but MLM and their bots’ lies have real consequences and their conduct isn’t something normal companies and representatives could get away with for decades as they have done.

Crikeyalmighty · 28/07/2025 17:01

@YouOKHun I think the thing that pisses me off is they often rope in those least able to afford it , who are looking to make an extra £200 to £500 a month for extras with small children , when the reality is most of these people would be better off with 8 hours a week fitted in at Waitrose etc or a bit of at home call centre work or similar if they don’t have careers that work well part time or at home . So many end up buying the stuff themselves so they don’t look like abject failures !!

BusWankers · 28/07/2025 17:24

@JellyStarz do you have a previous post to share that I can read to see how you fell down the rabbit hole please?

It's all fascinating.

YouOKHun · 28/07/2025 17:27

Absolutely agree @Crikeyalmighty Any vulnerability will do but the key one is financial vulnerability. The promise of something that looks like an attainable goal is the best way to hook those people. I can’t think of a bot who doesn’t position themselves as having originally simply wanted to earn a few hundred a month to clear debt but then their earnings quickly escalated. It’s such a mean trick. You can see that a lot of the recruits are vulnerable, not just to the idea that their modest goals can be easily met but that they will have the friendship of someone who seems to have a much better life and seems to want to share the secrets of their success. It’s very enticing.

WorthySloth · 28/07/2025 18:24

I do support work. Just looked and 12 hours a week would bring in almost £700 a month. People can sign up as bank and work when they can and hours that suit. Plus you don’t have to annoy your friends and family to earn your wages.

Crikeyalmighty · 28/07/2025 18:55

@WorthySloth yes that’s the point I was making too - some have really modest ‘wants’ - that would be so much easier to get in ways that don’t pee off everyone you know and give you stress with targets etc or encourage you to buy your own stuff!! It’s utter madness - I mean if you want to do something totally from home and have a bit of cash you would be better buying a Shopify front and trying a bit of drop shipping or similar - it may not work but it may do ok and doesn’t involve hassling mates and family

Spongebobette · 28/07/2025 19:56

And then you have the likes of Yawn telling people (if they pay her a monthly fee) that you can manifest money, attract abundance etc etc

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Crikeyalmighty · 28/07/2025 20:09

@Spongebobette I think seem need to understand the concept of no such thing as a free lunch . It’s pure snake oil with all this ‘manifest’ nonsense . Your odds are better on a lottery ticket!

Wintersgirl · 28/07/2025 20:23

Over 100 f/b friends have wished Yawn a Happy birthday for yesterday, I don't think she's said thank you or liked any of the comments or good wishes, that's very telling

Norma27 · 28/07/2025 20:28

People ask if uber and her daughter are sisters! 😂😂😂

YouOKHun · 28/07/2025 20:47

@Wintersgirl 100 unacknowledged birthday wishes however over on her Unlucky Club page her announcement of what’s happening in the club in August (same as previous months but in a different typeface) has garnered one solitary like. I’m blocked from her other page but I doubt it’s much better there.

Wintersgirl · 28/07/2025 23:44

YouOKHun · 28/07/2025 20:47

@Wintersgirl 100 unacknowledged birthday wishes however over on her Unlucky Club page her announcement of what’s happening in the club in August (same as previous months but in a different typeface) has garnered one solitary like. I’m blocked from her other page but I doubt it’s much better there.

Yes why wouldn't you do one post saying "Thank you for my birthday wishes" kind of thing if you don't want to do individual thanks or likes

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