Botwatch 89!!!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM.

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New thread! Welcome to anyone who wants to be better informed about the dodgy practices of multi level marketing companies

@Spongebobette yes I think she has definitely “invested” others’ money in this “can’t fail” scheme. Castle has sold her followers something as being “amazing” and they have handed over money. She may have invested a lot of money herself but others have clearly handed money to Castle. They’ve then had doubts but Castle has silenced the doubts. Now it’s clear it’s a scam and the money has “gone” Castle has got to put herself in the victim camp sharpish and remind those people that she has lost the most money so has the most to complain about - never mind your £997 (or whatever they’ve paid), what about ME and my much larger amount of money?? Even though she has lost the most money she claims she feels terrible because she just didn’t see it coming because she “doesn’t think like a crook” blah blah. There will be no reimbursement for those involved because she is a victim too so can’t help. She feels so terrible and guilty but what can she do?

Grabbing the arse-covering victim narrative insures her followers are so busy seeing her as a bigger victim than they are that they don’t think, ‘hang on, did she really not see it or did she just not care? Surely she was better placed than any of us to see what was going on so why didn’t she? Is she stupid or dishonest?’

The answer to that is, ‘both’!

Did she invest £100k? I had a look and it says £100.00. What does this business do exactly? Its name is similar to a private English language school (two words transposed). Why would you choose a name which could cause confusion?
I agree with a PP who said that Castle has promised her clients accredited courses, and may now have to make refunds, but also agree with another PP who said that in what world would Castle’s garbage merit any accreditation.
Castle made a recent FB post about how buying a £199.75 box in 2013 led to riches within a few months. Some people have commented that this is what makes them believe that anything is possible. Someone said that despite trying she’s still skint, and Castle suggested she does one of her challenges. She’s just awful.

Castle was the ‘useful idiot’ wasn’t she

Sorry my mistake read it too quickly. Despite this Castle is moaning about being scammed out of money. I suspect it will be several thousands because she has heavily invested in coaching in the past according to posts.

Hmmmm, she says that she spent £30k on coaching last year, and within 6 weeks made £90k. I don’t believe that for one minute. Had a look at the coach’s profile, what a surprise he’s a network marketer, and looks as smarmy AF.

I think she had coaching with the ninjer wanka who is an absolute shyster. He has money which he tells his pupils is as a result of his time in NWM (the secrets of which he about to share for a price) but really his money comes from his DF’s dodgy pyramid scheme involvement.

Mind you, a NWM coach who looks as smarmy AF could be a number of different people.

The ninja wanka is the worst. Makes my slapping hand itch

Cute crocodile tears from castle, forgetting that she knowingly got involved with known scammer fierce. Castle has love bombed and then bullied people for years, become her bff until you stop spending. Everyone who has ever "worked" for her also left due to her vile treatment and now its come full circle.

That Live from Castle is interesting. I think the tears and the panicked look is genuine but not a reaction to her sadness at having her good character taken for a ride or because she wants to warn others. If she wanted to warn others she would name names or directly invite people to DM her for details. She wants to avoid people contacting the scammer; the Live is a buffer between the victims in her audience and the scammer.

She claims that it wasn’t just her being scammed, the scammer has also done the same to others over the last year or so. I think she is crying, panicking and going Live to emphasise herself as the victim of the loss of £25k cash and “£250k of lost business” because she now realised that she was a fellow director all the time others were being fleeced. She says she didn’t want to ask for her money back because to pay it back the scammer would have to fleece others but I think if she writes the money off and avoids antagonising someone who clearly despises her then she can avoid the scammer turning on her and telling everyone that they were in it together.

Let’s face it, Companies House, Castle’s own content and the people she associates with do not paint a picture of an innocent victim. She would be hard pushed to be seen as a true victim by anyone other than her own audience.

‘We’ve added the Easy Bookkeeping GoogleSheet Template - your no-fuss way to track income + expenses and finally feel confident with your numbers
This is totally my ‘crap’ area 🤣’

Too late for you Yawn and too late for your old downline. No need to confess your lack of attention to the important question of what it’s costing to earn nothing, because it’s written all over each business venture you’ve attempted.

Imagine confessing it’s your ‘crap area’!!!

This ‘app’ she’s boasting about

It’s just a Wordpress site isn’t it?

why don’t they have a real app if techie is so techie

Companies house accounts prove that point!

@Wintersgirl I’m rather suprised she hasn’t been flagged up at HMRC if she has a really big overdrawn directors loan for so long , because technically if she writes it off she’s going to get a very whopping tax bill on a deemed dividend as it’s called. And it means she’s going to struggle if she ever wanted to close it , as technically has to pay that back

I wonder how much money castles parents have left, I’m sure this offering was going to be the one where she made some money, she even rushed out to get a new Land Rover in anticipation.

her dads company is now dissolved after watching the cash reserves deplete rapidly. Her parents had to buy a cheap caravan and second hand Rav, despite selling their house for a lot and having a load of cash in their business accounts when he retired

Her usual modus operandi will be to spend lots of her parents money, she will redecorate her whole house which her parents will do and pay for.

She buys ponies and caravans and mobile homes, just pisses the money away. What will her partners have when they are older.

i see she’s started a new company, she starts a new company the way other people start new notebooks.

She took peoples money and introduced these ‘experts’ without any vetting. She just wanted to make money. and justified it with random feathers. She wanted her gullible fans to believe it was her sister guiding her. It was just scamming nonsense to rope them in

Yes, the loan doesn't just vanish just because it gets written off, it will be classed as income and taxed accordingly.....ouch, not sure how they will pay that bill, I'd be worried sick...

I didn't know Castle senior's company was dissolved, all that hard work and for what?

@Wintersgirl believe me, I have experience of this - maybe the plan is to sell up or something - but at that level even using a write off as dividend it’s like a £60k tax bill

@Justdancevancecouldn't agree more. Your last paragraph sums it up. She knew what she was doing, spinning a yarn to her own followers while not doing any due diligence herself. Her followers would have lost their money on her worthless scheme anyway, the outcome is the same for them except they find out earlier in this case. Their losses only matter to her now because she doesn’t get her hands on her victims’ money. She is responsible for the losses of her followers for taking money from them for something she had not understood and she had not bothered to check because she didn’t expect to lose herself. It’s amazing for laissez-faire someone can be when it’s not their hard earned money isn’t it?

I just hope some of Castle’s victims in this case come to their senses and start asking questions. They could start with Companies House and examine the timeline of when they handed their money over and when she stopped encouraging them to pay towards the scam and how long that was before she hurriedly resigned as a director. They should also ask themselves why so many of them couldn’t get her to listen to their concerns (which were raised many months ago and many times apparently).

Castle churns through companies and business partners nearly as fast as she churns through her parents money

how people are paying for castles waffle is beyond me, her trainings are always ‘amazing’ in her own mind. I’ve listened to a few minutes (all I could handle) it’s just a lot of buzzwords and hair stroking and shouting ‘hi Donna’ I would have loved to see the expressions at her ‘corporate presentions ‘

she was raving about her imaginative solution to getting a cheeseburger meal, instead of checking the facts.

a quick google at her latest ranting and any company would run for the hills, and her poor mum having to do skivvy, cook and fortune teller at her retreats. She’s another one coming up.

I didn’t realise that the FBOs have to pay £175 to be included in the “Aloe Experience shopping centre loitering” events. The Birmingham one only cost them £40 each I think but FLP has obviously rethought it. Who in their right mind would pay to work a day in dismal surroundings hassling people for leads or threatening them with little yellow cups of jizz?

Bloody hell they have to PAY to work for FL?

Yes it's massive, very worrying for the Yawn's

I’m just looking at properties for sale in appledore. Properties of similar size and location and far better designed for 550k, Uber spent a lot more than that on her house. It’s over specced and baldly designed and she seems more focused on ‘Marbs’ with her new friends than days on the beach in Devon.

I can’t imagine the rental covers the interest and is has depreciated in value. I can’t imagine she has the money to buy a place in Marbella and it looks like they are a high spending crowd she’s in with.

I’d really love to know how much her cheques were for the last few years. uber didn’t seem to be mixing with the top FL player based there (the who castle managed to get one invitation to a gathering and raved on about it)

badly rather than baldy