Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Money matters

Find financial and money-saving discussions including debt and pension chat on our Money forum. If you're looking for ways to make your money to go further, sign up to our Moneysaver emails here.

PREMIUM BONDS MARCH ONWARDS

980 replies

Blondeshavemorefun · 04/03/2025 11:32

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

OP posts:
Thread gallery
11
Negroany · 08/05/2025 21:27

Feelinglucky2025 · 08/05/2025 17:05

Could this be as you have been drawn following any previous winning bonds being ineligible.

I think that takes longer, a month or so.

FishPie2 · 09/05/2025 08:23

Feelinglucky2025 · 08/05/2025 17:05

Could this be as you have been drawn following any previous winning bonds being ineligible.

I have had full holdings for years so can't work out why it said no win then it was. Actually gone in the bank this morning.

Whyherewego · 09/05/2025 14:33

PSA for folks who won. My winnings did not hit the bank account this month and I called up and apparently sometimes it just stops ! So do check !

EightSteps · 16/05/2025 21:52

Evening everyone,
I know we're barely half way there, but I'm already manifesting like mad for a big win in June 😁
100k would solve a lot of problems.
And the door is obviously always open to AM!😉

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 17/05/2025 00:27

I am also guilty of already thinking:
15 days left to add PBs for July's draw
16 days to AM visiting me and one other
17 days to the HVW list
18 days to the full results.

I really don't want to wish the rest of May away, especially with the sun shining, but roll on a lucky June!

Netaporter · 17/05/2025 05:57

I’m away when AM is due to come knocking so obviously I’m going to win…on the upside, I’m on a diet so it does save me the hassle of having to get biscuits in 😂

TwoFeralKids · 17/05/2025 13:31

This is the first month I will be eligible. I was wondering if I put more money in now would it be eligible for the June draw as well or not until July?

Feelinglucky2025 · 17/05/2025 13:35

TwoFeralKids · 17/05/2025 13:31

This is the first month I will be eligible. I was wondering if I put more money in now would it be eligible for the June draw as well or not until July?

It needs to be in a full calendar month before it’s eligible for the draw so wouldn’t be until July if added now.

TwoFeralKids · 17/05/2025 13:45

Feelinglucky2025 · 17/05/2025 13:35

It needs to be in a full calendar month before it’s eligible for the draw so wouldn’t be until July if added now.

Thank you.

westisbest1982 · 18/05/2025 07:50

Thanks for posting that link @CaveMum . I agree with him about the strong chance of NS&I cutting the prize rate (again) within the next couple of months 😔

MananaMananaPenelope · 18/05/2025 21:10

I think I'm going to take £25K out of PB and pay a lump sum off my mortgage after the June draw now that I am in my new mortgage year. I think that's worth more to me tbh. My return over the last year has been rubbish.

westisbest1982 · 19/05/2025 08:00

Not long now - next weekend is when AM may visit two of us. And the HVP list is up two weeks today….I think that’s right.

MananaMananaPenelope · 19/05/2025 08:36

🤞, I could do with the big one this month folks.

Baggyprincess · 19/05/2025 11:46

westisbest1982 · 19/05/2025 08:00

Not long now - next weekend is when AM may visit two of us. And the HVP list is up two weeks today….I think that’s right.

Sorry @westisbest1982 I think you’re a week out. Sunday 1st June is the end of next week, so almost 2 weeks away. On the count down though! 🤞🏻

westisbest1982 · 19/05/2025 18:19

Baggyprincess · 19/05/2025 11:46

Sorry @westisbest1982 I think you’re a week out. Sunday 1st June is the end of next week, so almost 2 weeks away. On the count down though! 🤞🏻

That's what I meant - next weekend (rather than this coming weekend) is the weekend of the 31st/1st. But I take your general point!

Baggyprincess · 19/05/2025 18:26

westisbest1982 · 19/05/2025 18:19

That's what I meant - next weekend (rather than this coming weekend) is the weekend of the 31st/1st. But I take your general point!

Apologies, hadn’t caught up with the beginning of the week!

WhyDoesItAlways · 19/05/2025 22:44

I'm going to a festival and it's due to rain so AM better bring their wellies Grin

Blondeshavemorefun · 20/05/2025 07:44

AM sun 1
LIST mon 2
APP Tue 3

OP posts:
westisbest1982 · 20/05/2025 08:43

I thought this was a well-balanced article about the pro's and con's of having PB's:

https://www.saga.co.uk/money-news/premium-bonds

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 21/05/2025 10:11

Funny to think that 2 weeks today it will all be over again for another month, bar the gnashing of teeth or cashing of cheques!

Blondeshavemorefun · 21/05/2025 12:57

westisbest1982 · 20/05/2025 08:43

I thought this was a well-balanced article about the pro's and con's of having PB's:

https://www.saga.co.uk/money-news/premium-bonds

Yes it was. Thanks for posting

OP posts:
MintBiscuit65 · 22/05/2025 10:49

Has anyone had any experience tracing old bonds? I was potentially bought a tiny amount by an elderly relative when I was born (I wouldn't imagine any more than £5) but I don't have the paper bond or any details.

I filled in a form online, and NS&I quite quickly got back to me saying they may have found a holding that matches, and asked for a signature from the person that bought the bonds. The only problem is that they died decades ago!

I phoned informing them that the purchaser died some time ago, and they asked me to sign the form instead. I've sent that back and now it's been around a month and I've not heard anything back. Is it worth phoning them or should I just try and be more patient?

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 22/05/2025 12:28

It can't hurt to ring them @MintBiscuit65 . A month is a reasonable amount of time to have waited since your last contact and it might be a good idea to check that they have received your signature with the postal service the way it is.

I'm also in the process of trying to trace a similar small old PB. The online tracing form I was told by NS&I to fill in on their website insists on having the PB number or holder's number in order to be able to submit the form, which of course I don't have. I only know the approximate date the PBs were bought, probably also about £5, and the old family address at the time. I put in that information but used my holder's number from my current PB online account and hoped for the best! May I ask what you did about the NS&I online form if you didn't have the PB or holder's number either, or did you do it via the My Lost Account website instead as recommended by NS&I?