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PREMIUM BONDS MARCH ONWARDS

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Blondeshavemorefun · 04/03/2025 11:32

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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BondPremiumBond · 04/05/2025 19:58

I checked the blue app a couple of days ago and nothing was showing.

Received an email a couple of hours ago so just checked the app. 1 x £50 and 1 x £100! Holding was £8.8k.

Woohoo! 🤩

sansou · 04/05/2025 21:27

I informed DH of his £325 winnings so we went out for a naice lunch! Made me feel better about my big fat zero.

blitzen · 05/05/2025 15:12

I forgot to check the prize checker app this month, but an email just prompted me to do so. My biggest ever win!
£1,100 on full holdings. (25, 25, 50, 1000). What an amazing feeling! Can't imagine what it must feel like if you win the million!

KateArnott · 05/05/2025 15:52

blitzen · 05/05/2025 15:12

I forgot to check the prize checker app this month, but an email just prompted me to do so. My biggest ever win!
£1,100 on full holdings. (25, 25, 50, 1000). What an amazing feeling! Can't imagine what it must feel like if you win the million!

Congratulations! What will you do with your winnings? 😊

Ygraine · 05/05/2025 16:24

£175 for me this month (3 x £25 plus £100).

blitzen · 05/05/2025 17:56

KateArnott · 05/05/2025 15:52

Congratulations! What will you do with your winnings? 😊

Thank you! Not sure yet. Would like to do something, eg weekend away in the summer holidays. Will also put the lottery on this week!

PrioritisePleasure24 · 05/05/2025 21:42

mechanicalpencil · 04/05/2025 09:14

Can I ask What the longest dry spell you have had is?

Me: £16k no wins for 6 months

it might be interesting/encouraging for those in a similar boat to compare.

13 months longest between wins . A couple 6/8 months…. i’ve had between 3k when i first invested in 2020 to £4375 now. ( had more but withdrew some out and later reinvested a little)

Without looking at my account i’ve won about 8-10 times in total. Mostly £25, maybe one £50. i have won two £100 prizes though!

Lilly11a · 07/05/2025 08:06

My longest dry spell was Oct 22 £25 win all the way through to March 24 £100 win . I had between 2.5k and 4k invested

Mamajustwingingit · 07/05/2025 09:03

Does anyone else ever feel pressure like arghh I don’t have enough in there. Trying to save alongside life/raising kids etc. got about £9K then another £4K for kids, tick away slowly popping bits in but life is so expensive! X

Darker · 07/05/2025 12:27

Personally I wouldn’t prioritise Premium Bonds, especially if money is tight. I would say a Pension is more important.

Blondeshavemorefun · 07/05/2025 14:44

Darker · 07/05/2025 12:27

Personally I wouldn’t prioritise Premium Bonds, especially if money is tight. I would say a Pension is more important.

Out of curiosity

say you save lots of money into a pension and die before spend /have it all

does it go into your estate or can you say you want your child to have it - or does it go auto to your spouse if married or can you put in will , it will go to abc

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Darker · 07/05/2025 16:17

I am no financial advisor - you would need to look at your plan. My understanding is that you can draw money down when you reach a certain age and use it as you wish, e.g. to buy an annuity or reinvest or buy a fancy holiday or give away. Or you can keep it where it is for a bit. You can name different beneficiaries for each pension pot you have.

Pension funds are invested so they can go down in value as well as up. (Which is why premium bonds have a place in a mixed portfolio, because it’s safe). But as long as you are a tax payer the government will add on 20% in tax when you pay money in, up to a certain limit.

But please do not rely on me for advice!

Blondeshavemorefun · 07/05/2025 16:27

I know all that @Darker. Thank you. I just wondered what what happen if have a huge healthy pension pot and die

I did do a thread ages ago. Will see if can find it and add to it

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ChessieFL · 07/05/2025 17:42

Depends on the rules of the pension as to exactly what would happen/who gets it but basically yes it gets inherited by your family. You may need to tell the pension company who you want it to go to.

ChessieFL · 07/05/2025 17:43

Should clarify I’m talking there about defined contribution schemes where you build up a pot of money. Defined benefit schemes (e.g. public sector) have specific rules about what is paid out and who to.

Countrylife2002 · 07/05/2025 20:07

Darker · 07/05/2025 12:27

Personally I wouldn’t prioritise Premium Bonds, especially if money is tight. I would say a Pension is more important.

I have premium bonds because money is a bit tight so I can access it easily . I have another savings pot too but all my savings have to be easily accessible as I don’t have very much!

westisbest1982 · 07/05/2025 20:20

Unless your pension pot ends being a chunky six figure sum, is it really worth bothering with? Also, putting £50K (FH) into a SIPP won’t generate a big pot unless you’re young.

goodhearts · 07/05/2025 20:42

i hope you guys can help me with my dilemma. I had £5k invested in PBs for year and half. Two lots of 2k and rest £1k in small bond groups of less than £100. I never won anything. I have cashed £5k . I’m now thinking buy again for £5k to see if this brings luck or just invest in S&S ISA. What would you have done in my situation?

Blondeshavemorefun · 07/05/2025 21:31

I would always do pb as I hope one day for the big win

esp as now 2 friends have won £25k

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MintBiscuit65 · 08/05/2025 09:13

@Blondeshavemorefun That's incredible - I don't know anyone who has won a big sum on PBs, so for you to know two people is wild! Maybe you are the lucky common denominator?!

westisbest1982 · 08/05/2025 09:15

goodhearts · 07/05/2025 20:42

i hope you guys can help me with my dilemma. I had £5k invested in PBs for year and half. Two lots of 2k and rest £1k in small bond groups of less than £100. I never won anything. I have cashed £5k . I’m now thinking buy again for £5k to see if this brings luck or just invest in S&S ISA. What would you have done in my situation?

I would give it one more go in PB’s - for six months - to see if my bad luck improves.

Blondeshavemorefun · 08/05/2025 10:02

MintBiscuit65 · 08/05/2025 09:13

@Blondeshavemorefun That's incredible - I don't know anyone who has won a big sum on PBs, so for you to know two people is wild! Maybe you are the lucky common denominator?!

Maybe. One was local. One lives think Ireland but known her years

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FishPie2 · 08/05/2025 16:46

I posted on draw day that I didn't win anything with FH and I didn't check until after 9am.
Today I had an email from PB office telling me I had won and to check on the prize checker.
I won £125 - how has that happened? (not in the bank yet)

Feelinglucky2025 · 08/05/2025 17:05

FishPie2 · 08/05/2025 16:46

I posted on draw day that I didn't win anything with FH and I didn't check until after 9am.
Today I had an email from PB office telling me I had won and to check on the prize checker.
I won £125 - how has that happened? (not in the bank yet)

Could this be as you have been drawn following any previous winning bonds being ineligible.

goodhearts · 08/05/2025 18:44

Blondeshavemorefun · 07/05/2025 21:31

I would always do pb as I hope one day for the big win

esp as now 2 friends have won £25k

I have put £5k to be re invested in a group at the end of this month so will be eligible for draw in July. I hope this may bring some luck.

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