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PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:49

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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MyrtleLion · 03/02/2025 00:08

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/02/2025 00:04

I downloaded it and searched for my number. Nothing.

hockeysticks89 · 03/02/2025 00:09

Nothing here but thanks for the link

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/02/2025 00:10

https://www.nsandi.com/files/asset/xlsx/prize-february-2025.xlsx

link isn’t what it usually is - usually click on and it’s there. I’m getting zoom when I click

must be a glitch

PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........
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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/02/2025 00:26

Nothing for me once I downloaded but lots of smaller holdings winning which makes me happy

if you have £50k yoh don’t need to win anymore 😂😂😛😛

oh well. Hopefully £25+ tomorrow

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Sparklfairy · 03/02/2025 00:27

MyrtleLion · 03/02/2025 00:08

I downloaded it and searched for my number. Nothing.

What number? You'll have an individual bond number for each £1 bond. You can get the list in a pdf file from your online account.

MyrtleLion · 03/02/2025 00:33

Sparklfairy · 03/02/2025 00:27

What number? You'll have an individual bond number for each £1 bond. You can get the list in a pdf file from your online account.

I thought it was my user number.

MyrtleLion · 03/02/2025 00:39

So how can you check thousands of numbers?

JellyBeanFactory · 03/02/2025 00:39

Thanks @Blondeshavemorefun
I don't live in Kirklees or Sheffield so AM didn't come by.
Lovely to see some smaller holdings win, particularly the Londoner with £100 who has won £100,000!
Good luck everyone for 24-hours time!

StrawberryD · 03/02/2025 00:46

Lots of winners from the city I'm from - unfortunately none of them match my details so it isn't me 😭.
Anyone else feel like they are doing well with their savings until they read the premium bonds list and realise how many people have £50k?! I have a lot less than that!

Sparklfairy · 03/02/2025 01:01

MyrtleLion · 03/02/2025 00:39

So how can you check thousands of numbers?

They're sequential according to the blocks you bought them in. I have quite a few blocks (bought and cashed in over years) and it took me about 5 mins to check.

There's a few ways you can do it.

Sort by area and then total holding - then check just the bond numbers that match your area and holding
Sort by area and bond number, have your pdf handy to scroll to the right pair of letters the bond number starts with and cross reference.
Or, as I did for the first time tonight, just sort by bond number and check against each block. There's only a handful of prizes (if any) that match each pair of letters so you can check pretty quickly.

SnowFrogJelly · 03/02/2025 01:22

Thanks for link

grizabellacat · 03/02/2025 05:23

Why is ‘value of bond’ different to ‘value of holding’?
I thought that £25 bought 25 bonds, and that’s your ‘holding’. How does it work?

Sparklfairy · 03/02/2025 06:30

grizabellacat · 03/02/2025 05:23

Why is ‘value of bond’ different to ‘value of holding’?
I thought that £25 bought 25 bonds, and that’s your ‘holding’. How does it work?

Edited

Value of holding is your total number of bonds. Value of bond is the amount bought in one block/transaction.

So if you see a holding on the list of £30,000 but a bond value of £25, it probably means that winning bond was a reinvested prize! I love to see those Grin

Starryknightcloud · 03/02/2025 06:36

Thanks for the list, I filtered by my area then scanned down the holding amount but doesn't look like anything matches sadly.
Hope some of you have better luck this month and always hopeful for some smaller prizes - will that be tomorrow?

Rapunzel91 · 03/02/2025 06:52

What always surprises me is multiple people in Cleveland winning, why??

Rapunzel91 · 03/02/2025 06:59

Rapunzel91 · 03/02/2025 06:52

What always surprises me is multiple people in Cleveland winning, why??

Well I’ve just found out it’s a county in England and they don’t mean the place in USA. Should have checked that first😅😅

QuantumPanic · 03/02/2025 07:00

Congratulations to the £1 million winner from Sheffield who won with £10k. 💛 Must have been a lovely shock.

JollyHostess101 · 03/02/2025 07:28

Nothing for me on the list!!

See you all at midnight!!

Feelinglucky2025 · 03/02/2025 07:39

No big win for me in my first month. Fingers crossed for a smaller win instead.

EightSteps · 03/02/2025 07:42

No big win for me either. Oh well!
Looking forward to hearing about (hopefully) everyone's smaller wins tomorrow...

kiraric · 03/02/2025 07:44

I'll be happy with anything!

I calculated my rate of return over the last 12 months as 0.25% and it pains me to think about it

But I guess someone has to be on the bad luck end of the bell curve

ScarlettSunset · 03/02/2025 08:02

No big win for me either. I'm not quite at FH but really close now and I've had no wins at all the last two months. I had rather hoped it was because it was saving it up for a big win instead...

1975wasthebest · 03/02/2025 08:02

StrawberryD · 03/02/2025 00:46

Lots of winners from the city I'm from - unfortunately none of them match my details so it isn't me 😭.
Anyone else feel like they are doing well with their savings until they read the premium bonds list and realise how many people have £50k?! I have a lot less than that!

Yes, it’s sobering to see on the list how many people have FH. Last month I worked out it was something like 40%.

MaltipooMama · 03/02/2025 08:03

This is my first time using bonds! Naturally expecting the £1m prize with my hefty £680 stake 💰🥂

Countrylife2002 · 03/02/2025 08:09

1975wasthebest · 03/02/2025 08:02

Yes, it’s sobering to see on the list how many people have FH. Last month I worked out it was something like 40%.

I was just thinking about this. Another example of how wealth begets wealth.

But there’s always a chance for us at the other end…!

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