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Financially incompatible….

94 replies

Mum2sons1234 · 15/10/2024 18:06

Appreciate this is a bit long but after some advice please.
Bit of background first….

14 year relationship
UNmarried
2 kids
Separate finances- OH earns 4 x more than me. He is well off and is very much “what’s mine is mine, what’s yours is yours”. I appreciate some people put into the same pot, but we will never be that couple. I found it strange at first, because my parents always shared everything, but it’s something I had to accept many years ago.

I live pretty much hand to mouth on my wages. However the advantages of me having a lower paid job is our childcare costs have been cheaper, because I can work flexibly.

OH solely owns the home we live in.

OH pays mortgage, house bills and his personal bills. I pay childcare, food, kids extra activities and my personal bills. I also drive most places (I have the bigger car- I pay for the diesel). He works longer hours/days and I work full time, but also do school runs, activities, cooking and cleaning. Holidays, kids clothes, toys, etc we split 50/50. I thought all that seemed more than fair, but he has always had the attitude that because I’m not physically transferring money to him each month, I somehow don’t contribute?! When i challenged this and put our wages and expenses into a calculator and it worked it out proportionate to our salaries, it actually showed I paid slightly too much. He wouldn’t accept that fact (eye roll).

It all came to a head in August when I said I was struggling so much on a low wage and interest rates increasing on my credit cards , that I put myself onto a debt management plan. I was really anxious about telling him, through fear of being judged, but I didn’t want any secrets between us. Since I’ve told him, he’s become more guarded with his own money and rather than slightly paying more towards something because he earns more, like he sometimes would, he just point blank refuses to pay at all.

I might add that in the 14 years together I’ve always worked, never asked him for money and paid as much as I can in everything we’ve done together. I haven’t asked him to bail me out, even though he could easily afford to, but instead I tried to improve the situation myself. (If I was after his money, I would have given up and left by now!)

FYI this is a man who is on 80k a year salary and has about that much in savings too! I have £400 in my bank until payday. I’m also not eligible for any benefits/tax credits…because of his earnings…

I can’t fully explain how he’s changed but I suddenly feel uncomfortable, on edge and like I’m burden to him. I’ve purposely been in a lower paid job due to childcare costs, which we agreed on. If I was in a higher paid job, childcare fees would skyrocket and I would be expected to pay it, which would then counteract the pay increase. Because we don’t share finances, all this has done is made him richer and me poorer.

I know many will probably read this and say end the relationship, but aside from not being financially compatible (at all), we do actually have a good relationship and life with our children. I’m not quite sure what advice I’m after, but I just wondered if anybody has been through similar and how you sorted things out without it turning really bitter.

Many thanks for reading xxxx

OP posts:
midgetastic · 15/10/2024 18:11

You get yourself a higher paid job and then leave him with the kids or 50 50

You are so vulnerable being unmarried and he is taking advantage of you - is that really a good relationship?

Ohfuckrucksack · 15/10/2024 18:11

This is all much much too late.

He is not treating you fairly and it may be considered financial abuse, but as you're not married what can you do about it?

I assume they are his children.

You own nothing, you're not married and he has made sure that you spend everything you make whilst he squirrels away all his cash, paying only towards his asset (house) to protect himself only.

Nc101999 · 15/10/2024 18:14

This is financial abuse.

I'd be considering exit strategies in your position. Call Women's Aid in the first instance. Good luck.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 15/10/2024 18:17

Yep, this is 100% financial abuse.

You would probably be better off if you left him, and he had to pay child support (although unfortunately this shitty type of man typically finds a way to avoid paying).

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 15/10/2024 18:18

Ohfuckrucksack · 15/10/2024 18:11

This is all much much too late.

He is not treating you fairly and it may be considered financial abuse, but as you're not married what can you do about it?

I assume they are his children.

You own nothing, you're not married and he has made sure that you spend everything you make whilst he squirrels away all his cash, paying only towards his asset (house) to protect himself only.

what can you do about it

She can still leave, and spend the remaining years of her life free of an abusive man.

MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 15/10/2024 18:21

Nope! He doesn't have to give you money but he should be making your load lighter. If you have to go hungry at the end of the month because the rich guy you live with won't help, you'd be better off without!

I had a similar situation and we discussed it. Now we still pay 50/50 bills and what's mine is mine etc but he will pay the lions share for outings and help if I'm short.

You either need him to pay more or leave. He's very selfish.

PaminaMozart · 15/10/2024 18:23

How on earth have you managed to convince yourself that you "have a good relationship" witn a man who is totally and utterly ruthless in exploiting the mother of his children?

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 15/10/2024 18:25

I just wondered if anybody has been through similar and how you sorted things out without it turning really bitter

To answer this, it isn't possible to reason with someone who has knowingly abused you for 14 years. You are not going to be able to change him, or make things better. This is what he is.

You say that since you told him about your financial problems, "he’s become more guarded with his own money and rather than slightly paying more towards something because he earns more, like he sometimes would, he just point blank refuses to pay at all."

This says so clearly that he simply doesn't give a shit about you. It doesn't matter what he says, or how 'nice' he is sometimes, he is showing you with his actions every single day that he does not care about you. Because if he did, he wouldn't want you to be in this position.

Leaving is your only option if you want your future to be different to this. Do you really want to stay with a man who doesn't care about you?

thesunisastar · 15/10/2024 18:25

PaminaMozart · 15/10/2024 18:23

How on earth have you managed to convince yourself that you "have a good relationship" witn a man who is totally and utterly ruthless in exploiting the mother of his children?

This x1000.

There is nothing, NOTHING he can be doing that can come close to offsetting the fact that he is financially abusing you.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 15/10/2024 18:26

Nc101999 · 15/10/2024 18:14

This is financial abuse.

I'd be considering exit strategies in your position. Call Women's Aid in the first instance. Good luck.

Edited

Good advice

CuriousGeorge80 · 15/10/2024 18:27

How on earth would he justify you having to pay all of the childcare costs if you got a new job? That’s utter utter bullsbit and if he even tried to argue that it would show you definitively the kind of man he is.

You have two real options:

  1. new job, higher pay and split the childcare costs proportionally;
  2. leave him, claim UC and maintenance.

He’s an utter cunt and it’s sad you think you have a good relationship when the man who is supposed to love you and his children will let you suffer like this.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 15/10/2024 18:28

I'm guessing you didn't have a good, respectful, equal relationship modelled to you by your parents when you were growing up, OP?

DenmarkStreet · 15/10/2024 18:29

I agree, this is financial abuse. He benefits from lower childcare costs due to your flexible working while you go into debt. No good person would agree to this.

Shinyandnew1 · 15/10/2024 18:29

I know many will probably read this and say end the relationship, but aside from not being financially compatible (at all), we do actually have a good relationship

You really don’t have a good relationship-the way he treats you here is really horrible :(

fruitbrewhaha · 15/10/2024 18:31

Holy fuck! How has this happened? He completely owns the house and makes you pay all the childcare? Shit.

Tell him he has to pay half the childcare and you want to be added on the house deeds or you’re leaving him. You are so vulnerable.

Completelyjo · 15/10/2024 18:33

These posts come time and time again and I still can’t wrap my head around working less to saving childcare costs for a man who has a mine is mine mentality. It’s the exact scenario to not reduce your work!!

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 15/10/2024 18:34

fruitbrewhaha · 15/10/2024 18:31

Holy fuck! How has this happened? He completely owns the house and makes you pay all the childcare? Shit.

Tell him he has to pay half the childcare and you want to be added on the house deeds or you’re leaving him. You are so vulnerable.

This could be worth a shot, but given his behaviour to date, and the fact that they aren't married (so the OP has no real protection), I'd lay money that he'd rather be single than give up half his precious asset.

He doesn't care about the OP. His actions speak volumes in that regard.

RandomMess · 15/10/2024 18:35

Start claiming child benefit and let him repay it though tax for a start.

Sounds like you would be better off if you lived apart and claimed CMS
Angry

Dotto · 15/10/2024 18:40

No, he is abusing you. You only think you have a 'good' relationship because you put up with this outrageous state of affairs.

Even if you both agreed to not get married, he should have been paying into a private pension for you, adding you to the house deeds and putting all money into a joint account.

You are no better than a slave.

You need to book some counselling for yourself (not him, he's an abuser, it won't work), split and claim child maintenance. You will be much better off.

autumndays13 · 15/10/2024 18:48

You don't have a good relationship because it is so unequal. He's nice because this arrangement is 100% suiting him and you haven't made a fuss about it or made him feel bad.

When you opened up to him about your struggles, you finally saw him for who he is. That's why you feel uncomfortable. And I'm so sorry because if he had responded like a caring human being his response would have been very different. He should have been mortified to hear you were struggling and immediately apologised profusely and changed the current arrangement. The fact he didn't do that tells you everything you need to know.

He has been financially abusing you.

I rarely comment on these kinds of threads (sadly there are so many like this) but you sound so lovely, and I am sorry this is happening to you x

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 15/10/2024 18:49

Only read to end of 4th paragraph.

He's financially abusing the .other if his children. If you split you are buggered.

Gr8bolsoffyre · 15/10/2024 18:52

What an arsehole. I’m so sorry OP. You deserve better.

KRoo22 · 15/10/2024 18:54

What happens if you look at the finances in a different way. The mortgage is his as the house is his. Then split everything else 50/50? Would that leave you better or worse off? He should be paying half the childcare. This would allow you to get or work towards a higher paid job and give you more financial security. He should also pick up half the school runs etc to facilitate this and pay for breakfast club if he needs to. You are leaving yourself massively vulnerable in this current set up both in the relationship and if you were to leave it. The financial set up is not right IMO.

SomePosters · 15/10/2024 19:00

He sure has taken you for a proper mug hasn’t he?

I would suggest that you get a job that means you can afford to live and inform him that childcare will be a 50/50 cost going forward

if you’re not willing to leave at least don’t be a total doormat. You deserve better

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 15/10/2024 19:10

You don't have a good relationship, you have a financially abusive relationship.

He isn't a partner, you're not in this life together. If you were he would never leave you short and struggling like this.

DH and I don't share bank accts or anything, and we split the household bills in a way that works for our different salaries. But if I needed money, I'd get it and vice versa. He earns double what I do, no way on earth would he see me struggle. When I was a SAHM with only child benefit he would transfer me 50% of his salary to use as needed.

You need to try to secure a better paid job, and get out of this relationship.