Renters rights bill

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A question for LL’s please - what changes will you make in preparation for Labours Renters rights bill please? And what do you see as the wider consequences?

For those who simply wish to hate on LL’s, please don’t bother posting.

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if it weren’t for that £22b hole
obvs we need to open up the borders again to Eastern European builders

messybutfun - they were already going home before the Brexit campaign and vote. Doubt they'll be back in droves......

I think one reason why people voted Reform in such large numbers, nationwide, was that they could see the mess the country was in after 14 years of the Tories but couldn't/wouldn't vote Labour.

Its going to be a problem for both parties if Labour don't succeed, people wont go back to the Tories and their failed ideas.

So be careful what you wish for.

If Labour fail it's nowt to do with me. Their policies and soundbites pre GE looked shaky.

If their policies do have bad consequences it's all on them.

As for the next GE that's ages away.

Lol, of course, i doubt even you are that influential!

My point is that we should all want Labour to succeed, because failure wont mean a return to another mainstream party.

Shaky? post GE yes, pre GE they did well, hence the result.

You do what you want. It won't change things for Labour if their polices have poor consequences.

Thread derail but IMHO the Tories moved too far left - probably in a vain attempt to snuff out Labour.

All this did was alienate their core.

For them to stand any chance next GE, they have to recapture those (younger) votes, abetted no doubt, by this Labour govt being an utter horlicks.

It’s a shame it’s so bad, Labour have made terrible terrible mistakes already , I guess it’s like having a bunch of work experience folk run the country. They’ve no experience. They didn’t even mount a credible defense, never mind run the country. But they knew we couldn’t afford all the pay rises, and big promises they made, and spent anyway,

Labour of old was always tax and spend, run by the unions, and it’s back. With a vengeance. It cripples us, and doing it during a col crisis is unforgivable

the return the sausages comment was amusing yesterday, but also just an embarassment and says it all. As does raynor with her hand out taking freebies then blaming it on her working class roots. That’s not funny, it’s shameful. Our politicians should be above that, and I came from a working class background, and like many working class people the majority were good hard working people. She earned over 100k in 22/23. Before she even became deputy pm. It’s shameful

they will be gone in 5 years, but the damage they may wreak before then in terrifying. By the time they know what they are doing, it will be far too late, and once again Labour will be out of power for decades.

and this renters bill is another example. Killing the private sector, when you’ve no social housing for people, and massively increasing landlord costs, when it’s obvious that will just be passed to the tenants, for those who remain in, is mind boggling in its short sightedness.

but the population are not all sadly fully informed. We can see it by this thread slone, so many really are like turkeys voting for Xmas, and will get a horrible shock. It’s just terrible.

I agree with much of what you say.

The incentive to work for many of us is also declining - it’s just not worth it premised on current levels of taxation, so the budget may prove the final straw.

Big state? No thanks.

Lol!

Can you name anything that has improved, since 2010? lets start with Housing...
Defence?
Energy security?
NHS?
Education?
Skills?
Rail?
Roads?
Social Care?
Council Services?

Work Experience? Eat out to Help out? Downing street parties? Covid deaths?

Has Brexit been a success? an economic disaster.

Doubled debt and trebled migration, some trick with terrible services and labour shortages.

They've wrecked the UK, which is why they struggled to get over a 100 MPs and even that was 100 plus too many.

They've been in for less than 3 months, 6 weeks of those Parliament wasn't even sitting.

Much of what you point to was not peculiar to the Tories.

Post financial crisis, pandemic and war in Ukraine.

Brexit was Cameron’s to own but the referendum outcome was not clearly along party lines.

At what point in the current Labour govt will it be appropriate to stop blaming the Tories? Your answer please.

Exactly. And it’s not a race to the bottom.

BTW, spoke with my second tenant last night to politely advise that we would be serving him a S.21, citing the Renters Rights Bill.

The conversation went south pretty quickly with him saying he would be speaking to the CAB….

Thanks Labour!

OP, you really are not doing yourself any favour on this thread with how you are reacting to people's comments...

You are perfectly entitled to sell off your properties but equally people are right to point out that the new bill is needed because we have too many rogue landlords evicting tenants when they complain about poorly maintained rental properties.

If the rental market was functioning well, there would be no need for legislation.

Nobody expects landlords to act like charities but they also need to be regulated like any other business.

Your tenants are also perfectly entitled to check what their rights are when they are about to lose the roof over their head.

yes they will know they will struggle to find someplace else. You will get your property back and hopefully they find someplace else quickly, as unlikely as that is. Otherwise it’s eviction time, but make sure you do everything by the book, ie get all the servicing done, make sure everything is in order.

i feel sorry for everyone involved in this process. I’m glad I’m not renting anymore, and I’m glad I’m not a landlord anymore, we would also have evicted.

Tell me you’ve not understood the repurcussions without telling me you’ve not understood the repurcussions.

the ops comments are fine, simply as you don’t like them, doesn’t change that,

and yes, it is being treated like a business, just as you say, which means everyone like the op is out, which is millions of homes, and business stepping in and passing all costs to tenants, and a rental market where there is only a small percentage of properties available to rent v the demand, driving costs up. It’s happening already.

On what grounds could someone say no?

I’m giving all my tenants more than six
months notice and a call prior. I don’t know what more I can do.

Of course they can check their rights but I’m legitimate and all paperwork is squared away.

If I am forced to evict- it will cost and their credit file may ultimately be trashed.

What to do.

Legitimately they cannot.

Im fully compliant.

Also, I will be clobbered for CGT!

There is no grounds to say no, no one is entitled to stay in someone else’s property, as long as notice is served correctly they need to leave. If they do not, then a court will order eviction. Similar to a hotel room, you can’t just decide to stay,

Op there are discounts for every year you’ve,owned it. So make sure you’ve a tax advisor.

That’s a great shout, thanks.

@Josephinesnapoleon I absolutely agree with everything you said above.

On CGT the discounts are for every year you lived in it as a primary residence while in ownership. Not if you just owned it as an asset. At least that’s the advice from my accountant!