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PREMIUM BONDS AUGUST/SEPT 2024

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/09/2024 10:02

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win.

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if over /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and £1 win £25k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 21,000:1, can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 5/6% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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GirlOverboard123 · 04/10/2024 21:54

bumbledeedum · 04/10/2024 17:28

@snowwhat no idea if it's worth keeping in or not, I'm having the same internal debate. I guess the odds are still the odds but it feels a bit more like a lottery now, a smaller chance of winning a larger amount but a bigger chance of winning nothing rather than a steady stream of £25 wins to rely on and a chance of getting lucky at a bigger prize as a bonus.

@1975wasthebest sorry I think you're completely missing my point. Of the lower value prize fund there is now a larger percentage allocated to £100 and £50 and less to £25. Given £100 is 4 times larger than £25, only one person can win £100 versus potentially 4 people winning £25 so you have less chance of winning anything overall but if you do win you have a better chance of a higher amount. I'm not talking about the rate changes increasing/decreasing the total pot.

No, this is incorrect. You need to look at the odds of winning a prize, which are currently 21,000 to 1 for each £1 bond. There’s been a huge cut in £25 prizes in recent years, but the total number of prizes has increased and the odds have shortened. Compared to two or three years ago people are winning more prizes and they’re winning higher value prizes: www.nsandi.com/historical-interest-rates

blitzen · 05/10/2024 09:14

£275 for me this month on £27k approx.

1×£25
1×£50
2×£100

HarrietSpying · 06/10/2024 08:32

£25 for me on c£13k holding. First prize since Feb. V different to last year when I won every month.
Nothing for DD who has £1,600 invested but it’s her first month so we were not expecting much.

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/10/2024 22:39

Can I buy pb for a friends or family's child if they have a pb account already ?

If so what's the easiest way

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Negroany · 10/10/2024 08:14

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/10/2024 22:39

Can I buy pb for a friends or family's child if they have a pb account already ?

If so what's the easiest way

Apparently not, pb can only be bought by parents, grandparents. According to the website.

I've considered buying for my godson but don't think I can.

I guess you give the money to the parents and say that is what it is for.

Chewbecca · 10/10/2024 10:09

I buy bonds for a step grand child. I have bought for them before and so they're set up on my account and I just have to select their name from a drop down. Their parent gets an email each time and I get a card to give to the child.

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/10/2024 11:11

@Negroany and @Chewbecca

That's what I thought.

Annoying if they already have an account

It's more hassle for parents for me to give them cash or transfer into Their account then they buy them

I've brought for dh grandson before via his account

But wanted to gift my friends little baby with them and can't

Annoying

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Negroany · 10/10/2024 16:20

I'm sure you can do it, but whether you are allowed to do it is different.

The rules don't mention "steps". They say parent, guardian, (great) grandparent I think. Step not included.

But as I say, I expect you'd get away with it, I can't imagine they check.

Hopingforno2in2024 · 10/10/2024 16:32

I buy bonds for my Goddaughter after I set up an account for her. I had to have permission from her mum and her mum controls the account but I can pay in easily through my online account.

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/10/2024 17:47

Annoying you can just buy for anyone

I get setting up an account for someone who isn't related

But if already have one .....

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ThisOldThang · 10/10/2024 20:10

I don't think there are any restrictions regarding purchasing premium bonds for your step granddaughter.

https://www.nsandi.com/products/premium-bonds

Buying for someone else’s child
You can apply online or by post. You can ask us to send you an electronic or paper gift card for you to pass on to the child. We’ll also send you an acknowledgement of your investment. But only the nominated parent or guardian will be able to manage and cash in the Bonds.

Before you apply for someone else’s child:

  • Remember, although you can buy Premium Bonds for someone else’s child as a gift, you won’t be able to look after the investment on their behalf or have the Bonds to be repaid to you
  • Please make sure the parent/guardian is happy to look after the investment for the child (until the child is 16), and agrees to you giving us their details
  • We'll check the identity and address of everyone named on your application, and we may need to ask for documents to prove this
  • Please let the parent/guardian know that we might be in touch to ask for evidence of identity documents

Premium Bonds

Buy Premium Bonds for yourself or a child under 16: easy access and a chance to win tax-free prizes in our monthly prize draw. Visit our site for more details.

https://www.nsandi.com/products/premium-bonds

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/10/2024 20:44

@ThisOldThang so according to that. I can buy for my friends child if I put in her holder number under ref

Is that correct ?

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ThisOldThang · 10/10/2024 20:51

I've never bought Premium Bonds for anybody other than my children.

I'd suggest logging into your account and seeing what the options are.

1975wasthebest · 14/10/2024 09:20

Someone has to be the first to say it 😆 This month feels really long, I think because of the 31 days and the colder temperatures. Two and a half weeks to go.

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/10/2024 09:23

Well I've tried to buy pb for my friends child

I put in their number and the ns&i sort code and account number and sent from my bank

So be interesting if they get to their account or bounce back and arrive back in mine few weeks later

Will keep you iodated

And yes feels a very looooooooooonf month. Even more so as I didn't win😂

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CaveMum · 14/10/2024 11:19

1975wasthebest · 14/10/2024 09:20

Someone has to be the first to say it 😆 This month feels really long, I think because of the 31 days and the colder temperatures. Two and a half weeks to go.

Agreed!

fantasticoplastico · 14/10/2024 11:44

It's also the day my divorce should come through so I'm hoping it's fate and I get £1million as compensation!

ThisOldThang · 14/10/2024 12:30

fantasticoplastico · 14/10/2024 11:44

It's also the day my divorce should come through so I'm hoping it's fate and I get £1million as compensation!

If the court doesn't rubber stamp it until 10am you might have a problem. 😉

Manyoaks · 15/10/2024 16:22

DD has just received her letter detailing Oct prizes land she has an additional prize of £100 that isn't on the app. Has anyone had this before

Thfrog · 15/10/2024 16:48

Manyoaks · 15/10/2024 16:22

DD has just received her letter detailing Oct prizes land she has an additional prize of £100 that isn't on the app. Has anyone had this before

Oooh

leafybrew · 16/10/2024 05:31

@1975wasthebest

completely agree that this month is too long.

Disagree that 1975 was the best - I put 1964 as being the auspicious year.... although the 70s were the best decade for music.

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 16/10/2024 10:11

Manyoaks · 15/10/2024 16:22

DD has just received her letter detailing Oct prizes land she has an additional prize of £100 that isn't on the app. Has anyone had this before

I wonder if this is one of those occasions when a prize is redistributed when the original winner is found not to be eligible?

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 16/10/2024 10:25

It's like waiting for paint to dry:

AM - 15 days still to go

List - 16 days still to go

App/Website Prize checker - 17 days still to go.

I'm sure tumbleweed is blowing about at this point.

Manyoaks · 16/10/2024 12:16

I didn't know redistribution of prizes was a thing. From now on it will we check account app at 11, check prize app at 12 then wait for the letter to arrive 🙏

Nourishinghandcream · 16/10/2024 14:01

Manyoaks · 16/10/2024 12:16

I didn't know redistribution of prizes was a thing. From now on it will we check account app at 11, check prize app at 12 then wait for the letter to arrive 🙏

Yes, we have had this a couple of times now.
The letter usually relates to a draw several months previously.
A nice bonus.😁

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