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PREMIUM BONDS AUGUST/SEPT 2024

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/09/2024 10:02

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win.

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if over /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and £1 win £25k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 21,000:1, can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 5/6% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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andjustlikethat1 · 03/10/2024 18:36

8000 no winnings
Dh 10000 nil
Disappointed

Ihatemondays1962 · 03/10/2024 19:28

Nothing for me this month again 😞

GirlOverboard123 · 03/10/2024 19:30

bumbledeedum · 02/10/2024 07:58

I am remembering right that they changed the number of prizes about a year ago so there was less £25's and more £50/£100's? I feel like ever since then it's become much more like gambling and yes you can get very lucky but more than likely you're going to get significantly less than interest rates. We're down about £300 versus the most basic easy access savings account in the past two months alone.

Actually the odds of winning a prize are the shortest they've been for at least the last 15 years (which is as far back as you can see on the NS&I historical interest rates page). It's been at 21,000 to 1 since September 2023. Back in December 2020 the odds were as long as 34,500 to 1. And you would basically only ever win £25 prizes, which was pretty rubbish.

Daffyyellow · 03/10/2024 20:01

The apps were interesting this month. The blue one has never been great with early notice for me. This month the cream app worked at exactly midnight, the blue app didn’t show the winnings at that point but was updated by 7am.

gettingolderbutcooler · 03/10/2024 20:36

£375 on about £50k

Oceangreyscale · 03/10/2024 22:32

My first draw this month.

Won £225 on FH, happy with that!

bumbledeedum · 03/10/2024 22:38

I knew I wasn't making it up. Looking at the March 23 & March 24 prize draws info. Bigger overall pot in March 24 but less allocated to £25 prizes and lots more allocated to £50 & £100. Tried to attached screenshots but it's not working for some reason so links instead.

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/nsi-gives-valentines-day-boost-savers

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/premium-bonds-prize-fund-rate-reduced-march-2024-draw

1975wasthebest · 03/10/2024 22:45

bumbledeedum · 03/10/2024 22:38

I knew I wasn't making it up. Looking at the March 23 & March 24 prize draws info. Bigger overall pot in March 24 but less allocated to £25 prizes and lots more allocated to £50 & £100. Tried to attached screenshots but it's not working for some reason so links instead.

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/nsi-gives-valentines-day-boost-savers

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/premium-bonds-prize-fund-rate-reduced-march-2024-draw

No, from March this year there were more £25 wins and fewer prizes from £50 upwards. I posted that table a few days ago. Or do you mean from before March?

bumbledeedum · 03/10/2024 23:39

@1975wasthebest

March 2024 - £25 prizes = 1,435,338
March 2023 - £25 prizes = 2,132,917

How do you make March 2024 more than March 2023?

bumbledeedum · 03/10/2024 23:40

@1975wasthebest

March 2024:

£100
2,130,923
£50
2,130,923
£25
1,435,338

Puddock1 · 03/10/2024 23:51

£100 for me this month on around £15k holdings.
DD got £1000 on £2K holdings last month!

1975wasthebest · 04/10/2024 08:39

bumbledeedum · 03/10/2024 23:39

@1975wasthebest

March 2024 - £25 prizes = 1,435,338
March 2023 - £25 prizes = 2,132,917

How do you make March 2024 more than March 2023?

Because I looked at the table you and I posted and compared the two years 🤷

March 24:

£25 x 1,435,338 prizes

March 23:

£25 x 1,037,784 prizes

TubeScreamer · 04/10/2024 09:00

£0 on FH
dcs both £0 on £5000

I seem to have the unluckiest bonds

bumbledeedum · 04/10/2024 09:08

@1975wasthebest

March 2023 figures from that link are:

£100
1,400,876

£50
1,400,876

£25
2,132,917

I don't see the figures you're seeing.

snowwhat · 04/10/2024 09:46

bumbledeedum · 03/10/2024 22:38

I knew I wasn't making it up. Looking at the March 23 & March 24 prize draws info. Bigger overall pot in March 24 but less allocated to £25 prizes and lots more allocated to £50 & £100. Tried to attached screenshots but it's not working for some reason so links instead.

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/nsi-gives-valentines-day-boost-savers

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/premium-bonds-prize-fund-rate-reduced-march-2024-draw

Thanks for the research - I had suspected the same too about the smaller amounts of £25 prizes. Do you think it's better to take out the bonds and invest elsewhere? Really not sure what to do, especially as interest rates on ISAs are tumbling

the80sweregreat · 04/10/2024 09:51

Dh won 50 today , first in a long time

1975wasthebest · 04/10/2024 10:09

bumbledeedum · 04/10/2024 09:08

@1975wasthebest

March 2023 figures from that link are:

£100
1,400,876

£50
1,400,876

£25
2,132,917

I don't see the figures you're seeing.

I was getting muddled up with January 24 and March 23, sorry. But my point remains that from March of this year there's more £25 prizes and fewer prizes ranging from £50 to £100,000 compared to in January because of the prize-fund rate decrease. The figures are in the table in your second link.

Siouxtse1 · 04/10/2024 11:52

Yay! First eligible draw this month. Only have £2,000 invested at the moment, but I won £50! 😀Probably be the only prize I ever win, but wanted something tax free because I'm building a house fund for next year and already maxed out isas and savings accounts.

Ygraine · 04/10/2024 12:52

Nothing for me this month, after a run of good months

Bimblesalong · 04/10/2024 14:57

175 on around 34k. I’ve increased the holding and that kicks in next month, so I’m really hoping for a regular yield. If not, I’ll draw down from the holding whilst I’m off having cancer treatment.

bumbledeedum · 04/10/2024 17:28

@snowwhat no idea if it's worth keeping in or not, I'm having the same internal debate. I guess the odds are still the odds but it feels a bit more like a lottery now, a smaller chance of winning a larger amount but a bigger chance of winning nothing rather than a steady stream of £25 wins to rely on and a chance of getting lucky at a bigger prize as a bonus.

@1975wasthebest sorry I think you're completely missing my point. Of the lower value prize fund there is now a larger percentage allocated to £100 and £50 and less to £25. Given £100 is 4 times larger than £25, only one person can win £100 versus potentially 4 people winning £25 so you have less chance of winning anything overall but if you do win you have a better chance of a higher amount. I'm not talking about the rate changes increasing/decreasing the total pot.

Blondeshavemorefun · 04/10/2024 17:48

Someone asked me if I won. Sorry can't remember who. I thought I had posted but seems not

Alas this month i was not lucky. No wins for me. Not even £25

It does happen

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ThisOldThang · 04/10/2024 18:31

In 2023 there were a total of 4,937,179 £25, £50 and £100 prizes.

I'm 2024 there are a total of 6,161,548 £25, £50 and £100 prizes.

You're now 25% more likely to win a prize between £25 and £100 and, if you do win, it is more likely to be £50 or £100.

(Although my sums don't take any account of the number of bonds that exist. They might also have increased in number.)

RoseBliss · 04/10/2024 19:09

£300 for me on FH - best I’ve had for a few months

£100 for DH on FH - a bit rubbish but very good considering he’s had nothing for the previous 2 months.

Blondeshavemorefun · 04/10/2024 20:26

So for Nov

AM Thur 31 oct - Halloween. Going be a lot of knocking 😂😂😂

LIST Fri 1st Nov

APP Sat 2nd Nov

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