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The budget will be 'painful'

290 replies

darada · 27/08/2024 18:14

We're going to get absolutely bent over a barrel aren't we?

I fear the middle classes are going to be hit hardest because the poor don't pay that much (not unreasonably) and the very rich have access to accountants, lawyers and advisers and therefore will wriggle out of having to really pay.

I don't mind paying my fair share but I fear we're going to be squeezed and the money is going to be wasted a lot of it.

Anyone else feel a tad dispirited like me?

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RoguePlanet · 30/08/2024 18:21

Wow! Labour were very proud to share that Wales is their blueprint

So they wish to lower per capita income, and worsen health services and education services?

Even though there is more money allocated on services per capita than in the rest of the UK because Wales gets extra subsidies through the Barnett Formula?

Which idiot said this is their blueprint?!

Spectre8 · 30/08/2024 18:26

RoguePlanet · 30/08/2024 18:21

Wow! Labour were very proud to share that Wales is their blueprint

So they wish to lower per capita income, and worsen health services and education services?

Even though there is more money allocated on services per capita than in the rest of the UK because Wales gets extra subsidies through the Barnett Formula?

Which idiot said this is their blueprint?!

Kier Starmer himself

nearlylovemyusername · 30/08/2024 18:30

RoguePlanet · 30/08/2024 18:21

Wow! Labour were very proud to share that Wales is their blueprint

So they wish to lower per capita income, and worsen health services and education services?

Even though there is more money allocated on services per capita than in the rest of the UK because Wales gets extra subsidies through the Barnett Formula?

Which idiot said this is their blueprint?!

Which idiot said this is their blueprint?!

hm... our new PM, Sir Keir Starmer

Keir Starmer points to Welsh Labour government as 'blueprint' for UK, at party conference | ITV News Wales

twistyizzy · 30/08/2024 18:30

RoguePlanet · 30/08/2024 18:21

Wow! Labour were very proud to share that Wales is their blueprint

So they wish to lower per capita income, and worsen health services and education services?

Even though there is more money allocated on services per capita than in the rest of the UK because Wales gets extra subsidies through the Barnett Formula?

Which idiot said this is their blueprint?!

Starmer

RoguePlanet · 30/08/2024 20:17

Brilliant.

I have never supported any political party and thought that in general Starmer seemed fairly pragmatic but that's just insane, on top of the nonsense being spouted about the budget.

If only we could have a competent Government, just for a few years.

RoguePlanet · 30/08/2024 20:19

Wales literally cannot sustain its failing services without additional subsidies from the rest of the UK and even with that subsidised higher per capita spending underperforms on pretty much every measure that we need to be improving for economic growth and prosperity.

Ludicrous.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2024 20:20

RoguePlanet · 30/08/2024 20:19

Wales literally cannot sustain its failing services without additional subsidies from the rest of the UK and even with that subsidised higher per capita spending underperforms on pretty much every measure that we need to be improving for economic growth and prosperity.

Ludicrous.

It was a statement from pre GE

Many excuses on why it was ok

Lucy25 · 30/08/2024 22:00

Disneydatknee88 · 28/08/2024 23:47

I posted about "hidden disabilities" , mostly to be vague. The condition I was referring to that my acquaintances have is fibromilagia which I recognise as a genuine condition. I just don't believe either of them have it. They've been playing the system for years. Way before they realised they could try for disability. I asked how they managed to get their PIP, given the criteria is so hard to prove and they said they just said no to every question...can't wash or dress themselves, can't cook for themselves...they absolutely fucking can. And they spend all their benefit money on drugs! Clearly they have a surplus of money for that. Those genuinly claiming, are on an absolute pittance because they do not know how to play the system or don't want to. I do not begrudge genuine claimants and I know how difficult it is to even be accepted for a claim. That is why their situation makes me so angry! If its listed, absolutely claim for it if you have it. Hidden or otherwise. I am very sorry if my comment did offend you. I wasn't disabled shaming at all.

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It’s coming across as you’re assuming so much, the people that you’ve mentioned, that’s just 2 people, you’re tarring all people with disabilities with the same brush.I work with people who have mental health difficulties and people with learning difficulties, a hidden health condition, the process they have to go through to get pip is not an easy one.It’s not just ticking questions, there has to be evidence to back this up, their medical history, is just the start.
Your comment is just fuelling hatred, due to judgement

justasking111 · 30/08/2024 22:06

nearlylovemyusername · 30/08/2024 18:30

Which idiot said this is their blueprint?!

hm... our new PM, Sir Keir Starmer

Keir Starmer points to Welsh Labour government as 'blueprint' for UK, at party conference | ITV News Wales

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Yes it was Starmer, he and Drakeford had quite the bromance. We thought we'd seen the back of him, then the new first minister had to resign so we got another one. She has made Drakeford the health minister god help us.

nearlylovemyusername · 30/08/2024 22:09

Well, This is Going to Hurt

At least Sir Keir was honest 🙄

XenoBitch · 30/08/2024 22:09

I am on UC.. it is my sole income. I am dreading the budget. There will be something about bumping off people on long term sick etc.
There was last time.
And we will be blamed for the financial black hole.

justasking111 · 30/08/2024 22:39

Prescient perhaps

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/2023.12.24-075018/www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/12/24/labour-government-warning-mark-drakeford-wales-legacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.is/2023.12.24-075018/www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/12/24/labour-government-warning-mark-drakeford-wales-legacy/

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/08/2024 22:43

XenoBitch · Today 22:09
I am on UC.. it is my sole income. I am dreading the budget. There will be something about bumping off people on long term sick etc.
There was last time.
And we will be blamed for the financial black hole.

If you’re on long-term sick leave and your only income is UC, are you sure you’re claiming everything that you can?

XenoBitch · 30/08/2024 22:47

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/08/2024 22:43

XenoBitch · Today 22:09
I am on UC.. it is my sole income. I am dreading the budget. There will be something about bumping off people on long term sick etc.
There was last time.
And we will be blamed for the financial black hole.

If you’re on long-term sick leave and your only income is UC, are you sure you’re claiming everything that you can?

After years of paying full rate council tax, I have just got round to sorting that (so now pay 20%).
My execution function is terrible, so I pay a lot for things I should not be.
PIP... I can't face it at all.

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/08/2024 22:49

Can Citizens Advice help with an application?

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