botwatch 82!! The latest thread in a very long series about the deceptions practised by mlms. Unbelievably people are still being hooked in by these schemes where 97 of those who join lose money?

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@YouOKHun I'll have it done in my half lunch break on my j o b a d still have time for lunch because you know us huns have so little hun hours to work whilst beimg billiontyairs we CAN DO IT ALL🤣

Wig and sleaze back in Manchester, slagging off people who think 17 pounds an hour is a good income. He's upset a few people. He talks such a load of shit, his sentences don't even make sense! Good to see the comments from people who disagree with him

Pointed out a very obvious flaw to a bot. Wow she was a angry little frog. They really hate being called out.

@notgettinganyyounger the irony is £17 an hour is way above his earning power if he actually worked for a living instead of taking other people’s earnings and benefits. It really pisses me off that he and Wig have been doing it for years and there doesn’t seem to be any way to stop him. I contacted Trading Standards in the area where the current HQ is (in the old bank) but the TS machine works too slowly even when they are concerned about the issue. He’s back there but the file marked Wig & Sleaze is still in the pending tray from the first time he went to Manchester to print houses.

My god flp bits are angey ferrets. Get a grip Karen, not every one wants your fucking product you mad bitch. #don't send abuse #you're fucking mental

Well the emerging refocus on collagen and skin care posts among bots suggests that FL have finally realised that aloe has died a death in the UK.
2jags has remarketed herself, Yawn has been banging on about skincare rather than gut care recently and we haven’t heard about the 5/6/7 stone lately.

Competing in an already saturated market with fairly basic products is not the way to success. They need to fully remarket and repackage. I haven’t checked but is this “new” thing just a UK market “thing”?

Collagen seems to be their new ‘hero product’, replacing aloe. It works miracles apparently

I see they are using the word collagen all over the place on their social media too, almost like a rebranding

Doesn’t really matter what the product is. The MLM biz model is failing and they’re never going to recruit enough people to be their own best customer.

How many people (real customers) are going to be in the market for FL collagen when there are many much more visible brands at a cheaper price, and cheaper even after taking into account any discounts on FLP collagen? The only people convinced that FL’s collagen is “the best collagen product in the whole wide world” are the bots who desperately want to believe it. The collagen market may be huge right now, based in scant evidence and much promotion but that doesn’t mean anyone outside the positivity echo chamber has heard of FL or wants to buy its products. Good distraction for the bots though, stops them focussing on the massive downturn in FLP’s fortunes that will continue collagen or no collagen.

I use the Hunter Gatherer collagen and have done for 4 years now, it costs me £20 a bag and lasts about 6 weeks. It’s better quality than the FLP stuff.
Anyone else think that yawn looks super stressed everytime she does a video, almost like she’s been crying.

Yes I agree @SnoogyWoo. She must know she’s in a hopeless position and she’s not supposed to tell the lies necessary to hook people.

Talking of lies, she says it’s “the No1 selling collagen”, number one compared to what? The other collagen they don’t sell? Another MLM’s collagen offering? There’s absolutely no evidence it’s the number one selling collagen in the real world or even in the top 100.

There's definitely a sense of things being increasingly manic around her.

And that stupid v gesture she does really doesn't help.

It sounds from her latest post that there is internal beef as the bots scrap for the last few gullible victims.

I have three posts on FB from Castle in the last day or so each using the smallest Turret’s diagnosis for engagement. She calls him a rainbow baby but I think she has misunderstood what a rainbow baby is. As it’s understandably a sensitive area for many people it would be worth her thinking it through as her DS is very much alive (or am I overthinking this?).

It would certainly be better not to discuss his challenges on a public SM page along with endless privacy breaching photos. If she can’t get enough engagement from her ever more manic posts about her coaching offering then rather than using her children she should reassess the value of her laughable business and go and get a proper job. This would also save her network marketing coachees’ time and money.

Yep @hurlyburlygirly there is definitely intense contact from FLP bots in my messenger and they are not accepting no for an answer, manic indeed. Every one of the ones we’ve discussed here is trying to recruit me, or upped their contact significantly. I’m not getting the sense that they are swotting customers away like flies, rather the other way round. The pressure is on Yawn, ex BFF, 2Jags etc and very much on Speccy, headband etc. I wonder how much collagen the latter have purchased so far?

@YouOKHun by rainbow baby is she not referring to the miscarriages she had? She's been pretty open about them in the past.

I think she’s referring to her youngest son and I’m really uncomfortable that she’s sharing so much including photos, videos and details of his possible condition and I do not like to discuss it on here other than to say it’s yet another illustration of her total lack of consideration for her children’s right to privacy and anonymity and this is a longer sentence than I intended but she’s an appalling, exploitative person.

Oh my goodness I’ve seen it all now , so Yawn is harping on about teaching 58 women tonight about earning billionty of pounds , yes there are 58 women /names on the screenshot , but literally over half are duplicates !!! Twin central !! Does she really think everyone is that thick not to notice ?

@PieonaBarm no I don’t think she is referring to previous difficult events. I went back and re-read it in case I had made a mistake but I think she is using the wrong term and talking about her DS. It might be a term used in different ways that I’m not aware of but I can think of a few people I’ve come across who might be upset by that given it’s a highly sensitive subject. I agree @Spongebobette it’s uncomfortable exposure and disclosure about the youngest Turret and me mentioning it doesn’t help that, but it’s difficult to ignore. I wish she’d stop.

@Tinkabell02 straight into a blatant income claim. It’s as if last week never happened. I suppose FLP thinks the coast is clear to press on with allowing the bots to lie about the income opportunity to all those sets of twins and anyone else who will listen.

Hilarious pic of all the duplicates. Plus herself. Not exactly 58 people is it Yawn.

I'm not sure I would pay for a mentor who cannot do basic maths

It was 20, including herself, 2jags and Speccyp

@Spongebobette love it

20 - Add another four zeros to that and it’s approaching the amount of the loan she can’t pay. Rather than randomly generating numbers to represent pretend audiences or fictional income she should focus on the real numbers in black and white in publicly available documents (and so should her audience).

Forgot to tell you all l had a response back from the local community organiser who booked specsaver at dinelm. She said specsaver had not told them that fl was a mlm and had they known they wouldn't off allowed her to set up a stall. I pointed out respectfully that it would off been wise to check before letting a pyramid scheme into a shop like dunelm.

So presumably she won’t be allowed back?

The lady said they don't endorse mlm companies. Specsaver had misled them!