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how to split bills and consider income

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toomanynumbers · 16/02/2024 18:45

Hi everyone,

Sorry this is long but I want to include the right information.

I'm trying to figure out how to ensure things are fair between myself and my partner as we have quite different fiances and assets.

A caveat: I have a lot of money anxiety stemming from a difficult upbringing around money, which brings a lot of guilt around spending and likely skews my views and relationship with it. So I genuinely find it hard to identify if a thought or feeling is rational.

I'll just set out the facts along with some questions.

-My partner brings home c.£28k before tax. As a freelancer I have a fluctuating income, but this tax year I will take home c.£21k before tax. It is usually around £15k before tax.
-I receive PIP for a disability. My patner considers this as income, so with PIP, he sees my gross income as £28k this year, so equal to his.
-I own the house. I pay £800, but as an unusual set up as my mortgage is split as a low fixed cost (£400) and an overpayment (£400). This was advised because of money flow by extending the term. We only consider the fixed cost in the split bills (£400). I do regret not just having this as wholy fixed to keep the term I actually wanted.
-I handle bills and my partner pays me £400 a month rent which covers half the bills and half the 'set' mortgage. We use a joint account for food, dog, etc. Before he moved in, I had a lodger paying £450, so I took a slight hit.

I am struggling because of a few reasons.

-I find the mental load/anxiety of the bills hard and worry about putting the heating on because it costs me money *it doesn't affect his monthly cost). I would like to have bills out of the joint account, but then he would be paying my mortgage, and I want to protect this, and feel stuck.
-I don't know how I feel about sharing the PIP as income. I can see it from both sides. Does anyone have any advice about disability benefits should be considered as income?
-he has a work pension, I don't have one. I want to start paying into one, but want this to be considered before my take-home, so this would bring my takehome down.
-I have quite a bit of savings, but feel terrified of spending them. I could dip into them during hard times, but I don't have a pension and they are reserved for the future. I don't know if I am being unreasonable here and I expect my partner sees me as a scrooge/greedy.

Essentially I'm asking if I am justified in wanting my partner to pay a bit more. I feel very anxious about the situation. But I also feel like a hypocrite and grabby, as I own the house, have more savings that him, and receive PIP.

I am resentful of the ease he has with money - a set takehome and set costs to me, whilst I have to juggle and stress about wildly fluctuating costs. But this is because I am freelance (I chose this because 9-5 work was too hard for me). At the moment I am bringing home nothing yet have c.£1000 outgoings but seeing my partner putting away £1000 in savings Honesly, I find it hard telling him how worried I am yet not seeing him offer to pay more some months. But this is also hypocritical of me as I bring home more than him some months, and I have more savings than him (this is my safety net when I am unwell and because I have no pension). I also feel very guilty that I own the house. But I worked so hard to be in this situation and didn't enjoy life like he did (he would get a job and then go travelling/spend it). I also could have just rented and spent money, but I chose not to so I could put down a decent deposit.

Sorry its such a long one and so messed up. I just need a little help. That might be giving myself a wobble that actually this situation is fair and my attitude/anxiety needs work. My childhood was focused around being poor/having to save money so I am terrified of spending.

Or would it be OK to ask my partner to contribute a bit more and discount the PIP?

OP posts:
Ginandjuice57884 · 18/02/2024 09:13

Gwenhwyfar · 17/02/2024 12:10

Quarter of the mortgage payment is because OP chose to overpay. Half of the fixed mortgage sounds fair to me.
And why would he pay for maintaining the house when it's not his? Probably better for OP that he does not pay for home improvements and try to stake a claim.

Why would he pay a contribution towards the maintenance of a house he lives in? Are you really asking that 😂 do you think landlords only charge what they're paying on their buy to let mortgage!

toomanynumbers · 18/02/2024 09:58

Can I ask why you're linking this post? I don't think I am behaving anything like this.

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Strictly1 · 18/02/2024 10:00

I do think the circumstances are similar - he has no claim on your property - quite rightly - just like she doesn’t. Yet the responses are so different.

toomanynumbers · 18/02/2024 10:15

Strictly1 · 18/02/2024 10:00

I do think the circumstances are similar - he has no claim on your property - quite rightly - just like she doesn’t. Yet the responses are so different.

There are some similarities and some differences, as there are similarities with any other couple who lives together. The only similarity here is that one person owns the house. You could have linked to many threads that discuss this but you've linked to one where one person is being financially abused through hiding bill costs and there are children involved.

I am trying to find a way to be fair on both of us, where we can both save and both have a secure future. I have an unstable future, lower income and a disability and I worked very hard for my house. It is not grabby or abusive needing a fair contribution to rent that covers the cost of living in the house, which includes the mortgage. If he didn't contribute, the other option would be to get a lodger, but he wouldn't want that as he uses that room as a home office.

OP posts:
Runnerduck34 · 18/02/2024 10:36

This isnt straightforward as

You have PIP
House is in your name
Your not married

As you need to use
PIP to support health needs.
How about splitting it?

  • 50% for support for your health, counselling etc which is disregarded in terms of income, then 50% for bills which is counted as income .

Then work out bills including average spend on groceries and both pay the same percentage of your take home pay into a joint account to cover it .
So for example bills and groceries £500 a month- he pays £300 you pay £200 but its the same percentage of your take home pay- this may not be right split- just an example.

He also needs to pay rent- taking into account house is yours but if he he was living anywhere else he'd still need to pay rent. What's the average rent for house share in your area? Maybe that's a starting point. Maybe £400 a month?

If he didnt live with you you'd get single persons
Council tax discount, possibly universal credit etc so him living with is impacting your income/ outgoings.

And tbh there is nowhere he could live for £400 a month.

What you are aiming for is you both have same amount if disposable Income every month.

Eskimalita · 25/08/2024 13:31

I think you need to be wary of your set-up if you split in the future. Once you’ve co-habited for a number of years he does have some claim to a share of the house even if it’s in your name.

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