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[MarchXX]

New fred!

Someone’s just upset Yawn.
Does she think one book a week is a lot?

😆😆😆 even the affirmation cards are telling nurse to do some work! This morning all about today she's having her hair done as self care is so important. This afternoons affirmation card 'work is my self care' 🤣🤣🤣

@Contraryjane wow, Yawn is very sensitive and is very aggressive with the person who says, in what sounds a fairly innocent way, that 10 pages is a lot to read in a day. Perhaps Yawn has been reading comments here again about the level and challenge of the great works of literature she has chosen? Why else would she pick out that comment particularly?

I couldn’t bring myself to read 10 pages of a manifesting book either.

A few responders to Yawn’s post are now wheeling out their self-helpy/NWM gaslighting tomes. None of these books are on the reading lists of CEOs/senior people in legitimate companies, if Yawn thinks that they are it just shows how far removed she is from the real world. Do these bots really believe they can draw parallels between their activities and those of leaders in legitimate organisations?

Well NWM and Genius Coach Castle wants to know if the tunnel goes under the sea and doesn't think that's an unreasonable question to ask. FFS

Someone obviously put 10p in Yawn today. Poor woman only made an observation. I reckon there will be an Insta rant later from Yawn, she can't take any type of feedback and people have clearly forgotten she is now a celebrity public speaker so must be adored.

And, like clockwork, Castle rolls out the grief and bereavement post which is a regula

…. Regular feature on her socials

She’ll use anything for engagement.

Fucking hell, the woman only made an observation and Yawn's reply is nasty and aggressive, who in god's name would want to work with someone who flies off the handle like that? No thanks! I bet Mr Yawn is constantly walking on eggshells, fuck that for a game of soldiers...

Is that the free session where she submits a recording of the session for assessment by her coaching academy?

She’s been asked about how she handles confidentiality of a recording. She assures that the coaching academy listens to it and then deletes it - is she sure about that? In another conversation she has not responded to the question of whether recordings are anonymous. Given that Nurse is selling herself as more than a basic coach and therefore could potentially have very confidential things disclosed to her, the fact she is passing on recordings to a coaching academy, not obviously with personal details redacted, for a commercially motivated mindset/NWM oriented coaching outfit to pick over is a concern.

As we’ve seen Nurse is keen to wonder into clinical areas such as trauma, so what if someone discloses something in an identifiable recording that is then exploited and used to recruit them for further coaching or training? There are strict codes of practice around recordings and their “distribution” and use in supervision for a very good reason. Where is Nurse’s recall of the various mental health acts that she must be aware of? Why do these people think GDPR doesn’t apply to them?

What makes her think that having a “mindset coaching business” exempts her from responsibility if the shit hits the fan? She needs to be very careful about her responsibilities if it can be demonstrated that she was the uninsured, unethical practitioner involved when someone comes to harm. It does happen and she would be accountable. She isn’t protected by the NHS now.

Sorry, bit of a rant, I know it sounds dramatic. Her only insurance is that she doesn’t have clients as far as we know, but she might do and then what?

She records her sessions with clients??

‘The coaching academy’ listens to it?

what does that mean? How many people?

does she ask clients, including those on a ‘discovery call’ to sign something which sloped her to share their recording?

Not sloped - ALLOWED
FFS

@Spongebobette She does ask if she can record it and they may say yes but she doesn’t say whether they are made aware of who exactly listens to it, if they really do delete it, whether the academy shares it with others or uses it for a purpose other than “assessing” Nurse’s coaching. Nurse’s clients don’t sign anything.

There is also no information about whether the academy knows the name associated with a recording. I suspect they do. Given that “the academy” is probably one ex-MLM person in the Castle mould I wouldn’t trust them not to use the contents of a recording to look for potential clients who could be offered “recovery” and a shiny new life as a coach for £5K. Why would they be listening to it to assess Nurse’s abilities when they’ve already got her money?! It’s either to keep her coming back for just a bit more training or to seek out other vulnerable potential coaches who are inadvertently sharing their private stuff with any number of mindset coaches.

I find this very alarming

Well NWM and Genius Coach Castle wants to know if the tunnel goes under the sea and doesn't think that's an unreasonable question to ask. FFS

Who says there’s no such thing as a silly question @PieonaBarm? 🤣 There’s only one answer to that: Castle can get in the sea! I hope she knows the difference between a tunnel and a pipe. If she doesn’t, she’ll end up wearing adaptive underwear for the rest of her life.

As for Yawn, she’ll be able to cope with reading Ulysses. She’d feel right at home with all that erratic punctuation.

Yawn’s whole life is a stream of consciousness so she’d find Ulysses quite resonant

Yawn is joining in with the affirmation thing now. She's shared a list that are for manifesting money! 🤣

I am intrigued by the suggestion that 10 pages of reading is “a lot”. But then I did leave school with more than one GCSE ( O’levels in my day).
I usually have two or three books on the go at one time.
I know a lot of CEOs, I don’t know any that would consider “Manifesting” an essential read unless it was for entertainment. Most CEOs already know the secret to earning lots of money - a real J.O.B.

Im disappointed in Yawn, I thought she would stick at TicTok , marvellous entertainment for this group. But like all of her projects it looks like she has lost interest.

NNN favourite quote sent to her by a 'friend' today is bloody ridiculous for a mindset/mental health coach.

It's all about her isn't it? No self awareness that that looks insanely judgey and massively unprofessional. It's clear that a good (old) friend has not quite supported her and now they are the enemy. Me thinks 'new supportive friend' has some ulterior motive... she's been there before. Anyone remember her new yawny 'best friend for life' a few years ago as she publicly denounced her actual friends for being unsupportive?

Yes I remember very clearly her thinking that Yawn was her best friend, her son calling her ‘auntie Yawn’ etc and her real friends - and presumably family- being cast out if they weren’t supportive of her ‘business’

plus anyone who messaged her to gently point out the pitfalls got a snarky written-by-Yawn response all about why undermine women just trying to build a business and you must be a sad case - followed by a block

Is yawns book thing on insta or fb? I'm blocked on both!

It’s on fb. Don’t think it is insta too.

It is on insta too but just one comment there.

Righty oh, I'll stalk on the husbands account 🤣🤣🤣

Also noticed that when yawn blocks you she makes Mr yawn block you too. Now that's controlling

Wow, she is a ray of sunshine in that incredibly passive aggressive response. And that autograph post!! Jesus that's just cringe. She is absolutely delusional at this point!