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BOTWATCH 78 - the latest thread in a VERY long series about the deceptions practised by MLMs. Unbelievably people are still being hooked in by these schemes where 97% of those who join LOSE MONEY

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Spongebobette · 04/08/2023 17:33

BOTWATCH 78 - the latest in a long series of threads where we keep an eagle eye on the lies and deceptions practised by MLMs. Unbelievably people are still being hooked in by these schemes where 97% of those who join LOSE MONEY and the top bots are struggling to pretend they are taking it in

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Angrymum22 · 29/09/2023 10:33

Yawn has realised she has no friends.

Angrymum22 · 29/09/2023 10:44

Sadly she doesn’t really want friends, she just wants new victims. Yet again in tictoc land her new downline is a “friend”, in fb land she is a new downline. It’s such a shame that she has already doomed this new friendship to failure. I actually feel very sorry for Yawn, she is so far down the FL rabbit hole that she is totally unable to make “just friends”. Every living being she has contact with is a potential victim, I wonder when it will dawn on her.

YouOKHun · 29/09/2023 10:45

She has dropped off the nursing register and anyway hasn’t worked enough hours in the last three years to re-validate her registration which she has said was due next year (the real reason she has quit nursing I suspect) so that avenue has been closed off. I wonder if her parents own the house she lives in and the rest is Universal Credit. Not wanting to have her payments disrupted by appearing to have a business and therefore an income could account for the lack of a website and zero visibility, though she probably just thinks the Hun Bizniz Model of pissing around in FB messenger is how the world of commerce works. And no danger of coaching earnings messing up her UC.

YouOKHun · 29/09/2023 10:58

@Angrymum22 if FLP ever pulls the plug in the U.K. the impact on Yawn will be significant. How will she adjust to normal human interaction and live without constant SM validation? How will she restore her reputation in Yawnsville? Somewhere in the back of her mind she must be terrified. She should be worried about the dwindling income and that huge loan but that’s nothing to her compared with the fear of the loss of face, loss of constant validation, loss of purpose and having to face the irreparable social damage she’s done.

Howsimplywonderful · 29/09/2023 11:40

Looking at FL - they’ve had no rising stars, just the same old tired nonsense. It’s just on a downward slope now. Yawn doesn’t even have the downline to use to jump ship. She’ll be the one turning out the lights. She’s stuffed financially.

FL clearly see the future in Asia

Spongebobette · 29/09/2023 12:27

Nurse is doing another AMA

how about

  • how many paying clients do you currently have
  • how many do you need weekly to make a living
  • where is your website
  • do you know you are using a name that’s been copyrighted
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BSintolerant · 29/09/2023 13:05

@YouOKHun what would NNNurse have to do to get back into nursing? Would she have to retrain for so many years or is there another way back in? I suspect that she wouldn’t entertain the idea of doing such a thing, but I’m just curious.

There are so many things she could do with her training which don’t involve MLM or being part of a coaching pyramid scheme.

MLMsuperfan · 29/09/2023 13:10

N3 can't have that much money or she'd take her boy to CBeebies Land per her dreamboard. We'd definitely hear about that.

YouOKHun · 29/09/2023 14:15

@BSintolerant as I understand it she must be registered with the Nursing and Midwifery Council and pay an annual fee to do so, but every three years she has to revalidate that registration which involves demonstrating 450 practice hours minimum over the previous three years (there are other criteria too). She obviously can’t tick this box. If her registration lapses she has to reapply and is prohibited from working as a nurse or (implying she is a registered nurse to further other endeavours). If her validation lapses as it will next year then she will have to do a return to practice course and a competency test if she wants to work as a nurse. So that door is firmly slammed shut and manifesting registration and revalidation doesn’t appear to be an option.

I think she is funding herself day to day through parental support and UC but still has to live in a low key way as @MLMsuperfan says, which does not allow for the kind of aspirational SM posts that imply “transformation” which is essential for tricking people into mindset coaching in order to be similarly transformed. As she can’t sell “aspiration” she’s going for “honesty”. This might have traction elsewhere but not in the MLM/coaching world. No one wants to be coached by someone less together than they are.

Life will inevitably get more expensive as her DS gets older and I am sure she is going to have to get a job at some point and is going to end up trying to make ends meet in some poorly paid job, unable to return to nursing or use her skills due to the massive hole in her CV and red flags about her judgement, and a complete loss of confidence about operating in the real world (I don’t think she has ever had confidence, just growing delusion). She wants an easy life but she’s signed up for a much much harder life. I think her real friends and her family (excluding her mother) can see she’s heading for a fall so that’s why they are not liking and sharing her posts. She thinks her real supporters are people like Specsaver. I fear she is heading for a real crisis when she accepts that the coaching bubble has burst.

MaybeItsJustTimeToStop · 29/09/2023 14:31

Any clues for who specsaver is? Nurse really needs to decide if this is a personal or business page, it's not like a business at all, look at my new cups and cushions, my son has a wobbly tooth I've food shopped, I'm tired, I went for a run. Non of that is to do with business and the constant posting about being on a course showing she hasn't even finished yet but still has set up to coach others, it hurts my brain.

Sugarplum48 · 29/09/2023 15:38

Message from YAWN....WE ARE ALL JEALOUS FAT MIDDLE AGED WOMEN!!!

50fedup · 29/09/2023 15:42

@MaybeItsJustTimeToStop first name is annoying blonde mum on motherland (son is Manis). Surname is the health minister who started the nhs. 😉

NormalForNuneaton · 29/09/2023 17:57

Nurse is glad it's Friday as she "couldn't do another day on this rollercoaster".

WTF! All she does is the school run, pop to the shops, bits of coursework and her "social media content"

God forbid what she'd be like if she had a real job, more than one kid, a kid with special needs/behavioral problems no car and was living in a shithole.

No wonder she believes in manifestation as she's clearly manifested a life where someone funds her lazy lifestyle, modern car, well-behaved kid, 3 bed house .....

BSintolerant · 29/09/2023 18:21

Sugarplum48 · 29/09/2023 15:38

Message from YAWN....WE ARE ALL JEALOUS FAT MIDDLE AGED WOMEN!!!

She’s got a very vivid imagination hasn’t she? Yawn will be all of the above when she stops taking Ozempic. 🤣

Spongebobette · 29/09/2023 20:27

Amazing

none of Nurse’s AMAs are about her business and tbh look like she’s asked them herself

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DeliaDeetz · 29/09/2023 20:58

She apparently got sent 14 random questions and those were the 6 she chose to answer! Her kids bedtime and fav Harry Potter film amongst the highlights!
I'd love to ask her what exactly is it about what she is doing right now that makes her think she has a business but I'm sure that would get me an instant blocking! 😂

DeliaDeetz · 29/09/2023 21:03

Yeah Yawn I am so jealous of someone who lies about her weight loss, lies about how much money her bizness makes, tries to con others into joining her and who is looking at a hefty repair bill that they can't afford for her knackered thatch!

stockpilingallthecheese · 29/09/2023 21:13

Yawn's shelf of stuff waiting to go upstairs 😆😆😆😆😆

YouOKHun · 29/09/2023 21:49

Sugarplum48 · 29/09/2023 15:38

Message from YAWN....WE ARE ALL JEALOUS FAT MIDDLE AGED WOMEN!!!

@Sugarplum48 where has she been saying that?! Not that it’s anything new. Her defence is always an ad hominem attack on critics without ever addressing the lies and the damage done by her MLM and by her own lies and conduct towards those she claims to be helping.

She’s ridiculous to claim critics are simply jealous (I think she means envious, not jealous) as she has no idea about our individual circumstances (or for that matter our dates of birth or waist sizes). Her kind aggressive snapping at those who see through her just shows that she cannot defend what she is doing and she knows it. She also knows there isn’t too much mileage left in her scam; no wonder she acts like a cornered animal.

SnoogyWoo · 29/09/2023 22:01

Do you think FLP UK has given them an ultimatum? Sales need to increase by x amount or it’s game over. They all seem to be on a mad frenzied dash to recruit.

Howsimplywonderful · 29/09/2023 22:25

FL U.K. £19m turnover in the most recent accounts versus £106m in 2016

What a slump. Yawn is backing a real winner there 😉

Spongebobette · 30/09/2023 06:33

MaybeItsJustTimeToStop · 29/09/2023 14:31

Any clues for who specsaver is? Nurse really needs to decide if this is a personal or business page, it's not like a business at all, look at my new cups and cushions, my son has a wobbly tooth I've food shopped, I'm tired, I went for a run. Non of that is to do with business and the constant posting about being on a course showing she hasn't even finished yet but still has set up to coach others, it hurts my brain.

It hurts my brain too

why would I choose a coach who hadn’t finished a coaching course yet?

even if she ‘loves her business’

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WilkinsonM · 30/09/2023 09:16

Nurse setting out as clearly as can be that the coaching is another pyramid scheme. Apparently being asked where she does her coaching course she doesn't post a link or anything sensible just talks about the 'lovely lady' who supported her on it - I assume that's what she's being 'coached' to do - get more people on the course who then get more people on the course ad infinitum

Sugarplum48 · 30/09/2023 09:29

@YouOKHun on her tiktok drivel. She was banging on about how she's not in the least bit bothered by the tiktok trolls as they are all jealous fat men/women taking the piss out of her ridiculous nonsense but she's not ridiculous, she's successful and THIN with fabulous brows and we are just jealous and sad and jealous and fat and jealous. The delusion is very very real!!

Howsimplywonderful · 30/09/2023 09:47

I’m guessing Castle will soon be publishing a book soon after hanging around with her new ‘bestie’. Jeff Bezos had better watch out 🤣