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BOTWATCH 78 - the latest thread in a VERY long series about the deceptions practised by MLMs. Unbelievably people are still being hooked in by these schemes where 97% of those who join LOSE MONEY

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Spongebobette · 04/08/2023 17:33

BOTWATCH 78 - the latest in a long series of threads where we keep an eagle eye on the lies and deceptions practised by MLMs. Unbelievably people are still being hooked in by these schemes where 97% of those who join LOSE MONEY and the top bots are struggling to pretend they are taking it in

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Sugarplum48 · 01/09/2023 23:28

Same reported her

Twentytwentyhindsight · 01/09/2023 23:41

YouOKHun · 01/09/2023 19:08

Yawn’s whole “business” is now dependent on milking her weight loss transformation. She can’t rely on attraction marketing in terms of “lifestyle” because she hasn’t got the cash for the designer goods or nice holidays. So all that’s left is the weight loss.

People might be interested as the weight loss is happening, they might be interest as the goal is reached. Six months down the line, not so much. She’s lost weight…so now what? “watch me maintain my weight”, no one is interested as it’s like watching French Chic paint dry. Diet and exercise tips? There are lots of people out there who know what they’re talking about and many many more like Yawn who don’t, it’s a crowded marketplace. Is she just going to keep talking about what happened six months ago? She needs to come up with new material and fast.

What WILL be interesting is watching what happens to someone who has publicly made their weight so central to their self-esteem. If when it goes tits up at FLP what will happen to her new lifestyle then, when it’s just her, a plate of chips and no validating audience to comment whether she is a size 8 or 18? I think I can guess.

It's actually quite tragic.

nannynick · 02/09/2023 00:33

"To not pay her £10" thread in AIBU - an MLM hun, doing a Mindful walk, with surprise horse!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4885267-to-not-pay-her-ps10

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Spongebobette · 02/09/2023 03:14

She’s claiming to have thousands of messages and that she’s setting up a WhatsApp group for people who have bought the detox and prove it by sending her a screenshot

is this allowed by TikTok?

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Sugarplum48 · 02/09/2023 07:37

@Spongebobette it would be interesting to find out. She claims tiktok isn't used to revolutionary people like her wanting to talk to all her adoring fake bought fans. It's very telling that's she's one million percent faking it on TT as her instagram and fb engagement is really no different. I wonder how much money she's wasted on buying popularity on TT to date!!!

SnoogyWoo · 02/09/2023 08:33

Seems strange engagement, she now has nearly 24k followers and her 2nd post has over 600k views with nearly 400 messages. Newer posts have hardly any messages and less than 20k views. Can you pay to boost posts as well? I don’t know anything about TT.

Sugarplum48 · 02/09/2023 09:34

You can pay tiktok to promote and boost your posts hence her figures. It's not actual engagement from "real" people. It's all smoke and mirrors yet again.

Wintersgirl · 02/09/2023 12:32

nannynick · 02/09/2023 00:33

"To not pay her £10" thread in AIBU - an MLM hun, doing a Mindful walk, with surprise horse!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4885267-to-not-pay-her-ps10

I'm starting to think that post might be Welsh bot...she's in to that mindfulness bollocks...

YouOKHun · 02/09/2023 15:05

@Wintersgirl has the PP of the £10 thread named the MLM? I had a look and she had said person offering “mindfulness walks” was definitely part of an MLM. I’m thinking FLP because of the Equine element - we know that a lot of people got hooked into FLP when it was sold as a cure all for pets but there was particular emphasis on targeting horse owners on the assumption there would be cash swilling around. I don’t know any Surrey based FLP huns. Did you see any reference to a particular company?

nannynick · 02/09/2023 16:19

@Wintersgirl It is near Farnham, Surrey. I do wonder which of the MLM Bots it is, maybe they are well known or maybe just a small fry.
@YouOKHun I was thinking FLP too but no they have not said which MLM. Walk is off now.. pity. I was looking forward to seeing the update from the OP about how it went.

Wintersgirl · 02/09/2023 18:19

has the PP of the £10 thread named the MLM?

Not as far as I know.....

NormalForNuneaton · 02/09/2023 20:35

Yawn, we know you read this .....please buy a decent sports bra.

Sugarplum48 · 02/09/2023 23:01

So now she was a sz 20!! Jesus what was it then?? 18,16, 20. Yawn GET YOUR FAKE AS SHIT STORY STRAIGHT. just remember tiktok is the land of fake shit where reality doesn't exist.STOP FUCKING CONNING PEOPLE.

YouOKHun · 03/09/2023 00:29

Found the mindful walks person on the £10 thread and I don’t know why the OP said she was part of an MLM - I can’t find a hint of MLM, a couple of dodgy mindset memes but that’s all. The people of Surrey can rest easy.

YouOKHun · 03/09/2023 01:34

I’ve done a bit of totting up of the level of engagement for Nurse on her coaching page over the last two weeks:

She has posted 38 times in 14 days
She has 81 “likes” or “hearts” in 14 days over those 38 posts.

  • 24 of those likes are from her mother,
  • 38 are from just two friends.
  • The remaining 19 “likes” are from 10 others, made up of friends mainly
Only a total of 13 people have been liking or engaging with her posts. 25 of the 38 posts she’s made have not received any comments at all. Engagement has lessened over August and in to September.

The main problem is that all of her interactions are with family, friends or others trying to get into coaching. There isn’t anyone who sounds like a potential customer. She probably thinks that any engagement, from a simple Like to comments like “well done hun” count as a sign her coaching bizniz will be successful.

Norma27 · 03/09/2023 06:14

@NormalForNuneaton i was going to say the same about a sports bra for yawn.

Angrymum22 · 03/09/2023 06:17

NormalForNuneaton · 02/09/2023 20:35

Yawn, we know you read this .....please buy a decent sports bra.

I had exactly the same thought. I think she went out to walk the dog but then thought why not do a tictoc about running. It was a bit warm for running with a dog unles she was up very early. It’s obviously taking all of her time up editing these TicTocs because she’s had no time for FB.

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Spongebobette · 03/09/2023 06:22

YouOKHun · 03/09/2023 01:34

I’ve done a bit of totting up of the level of engagement for Nurse on her coaching page over the last two weeks:

She has posted 38 times in 14 days
She has 81 “likes” or “hearts” in 14 days over those 38 posts.

  • 24 of those likes are from her mother,
  • 38 are from just two friends.
  • The remaining 19 “likes” are from 10 others, made up of friends mainly
Only a total of 13 people have been liking or engaging with her posts. 25 of the 38 posts she’s made have not received any comments at all. Engagement has lessened over August and in to September.

The main problem is that all of her interactions are with family, friends or others trying to get into coaching. There isn’t anyone who sounds like a potential customer. She probably thinks that any engagement, from a simple Like to comments like “well done hun” count as a sign her coaching bizniz will be successful.

And when she attempted to get some engagement by asking a question on 19 Aug, the only answer posted was from… herself

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meatbaseddessert · 03/09/2023 07:50

@YouOKHun well done for doing that. I'd noticed it was the same hangers on. One of the two who frequently comments also provided the single review she has from a 'client'.

I've looked at her followers and they are mainly kind friends, other huns and randoms shes met and invited in to like her group ( I noted a load of huns 'joined' after scamversity and then after her caravan holiday) as can be seen by the huge amount of people who have her in 'preview' (meaning she has invited them to like her page and they haven't accepted)

I'm still boggled by the NZ sheep shearer.

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Spongebobette · 03/09/2023 12:41

Apparently if she doesn’t have her car, Nurse is unable to leave the house
presumably there’s no park or anything else within walking distance

(btw can anyone explain what that thing is she boils up and calls a roast dinner?)

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NormalForNuneaton · 03/09/2023 14:58

I noticed that manifesting a quick repair on the car didn't work 😄

YouOKHun · 03/09/2023 15:47

@NormalForNuneaton she has successfully manifested a long stay parking spot at the garage. Manifesting parking spaces is her speciality, not manifesting mechanical miracles! I can only conclude that she just doesn’t want a working vehicle enough, or while she’s been manifesting a successful coaching business she’s dropped the ball on the vehicle/parking related magical thinking - she can’t do EVERYTHING!! 😉

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Spongebobette · 03/09/2023 16:02

How hard can it be to manifest a tyre replacement?
Or manifest a journey without a tyre blowing in the first place?

frankly she can’t have wanted to get home without a blown tyre enough or wanted that replacement tyre enough so it’s ALL HER FAULT for attracting the wrong thing

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Sugarplum48 · 03/09/2023 16:26

Just had a dive into yawns ex bff sm. She seems to be doing better than yawn. I wonder if this is where all the desperado tiktok vids are coming into play. Seems her old counterpart doesn't play the same sm game but is doing much better than her old allie

NormalForNuneaton · 03/09/2023 16:53

Sugarplum48 · 03/09/2023 16:26

Just had a dive into yawns ex bff sm. She seems to be doing better than yawn. I wonder if this is where all the desperado tiktok vids are coming into play. Seems her old counterpart doesn't play the same sm game but is doing much better than her old allie

Yeah she's never really done the social media thing like Yawn. Just the snippets of info dropped in to imply shes got a great life ... boys at public school (albeit she doesn't mention the bursary), flashy cars, new man, dates in fancy bars etc