BOTWATCH 78 - the latest thread in a VERY long series about the deceptions practised by MLMs. Unbelievably people are still being hooked in by these schemes where 97% of those who join LOSE MONEY

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BOTWATCH 78 - the latest in a long series of threads where we keep an eagle eye on the lies and deceptions practised by MLMs. Unbelievably people are still being hooked in by these schemes where 97% of those who join LOSE MONEY and the top bots are struggling to pretend they are taking it in

Looking for knowledge from you experts on all things scam-tastic... A friend who is a hospital doctor and not a prolific Facebook poster has in the past two days put up "inspirational" type memes - reclaim your life, regain energy - that sort of word soup nonsense.

Seems to be from the "be well club". MLM, right? Haven't seen this one before but the signs are so clear. Never ceases to amaze me that people fall for this guff.

Answering my own question - it so is. Looked on their website and of course you have to join as a member:

"Contact your consultant, choose your products, and receive your first subscription. Don’t forget! You receive a free mystery gift for each month of your membership"

and at the foot of the homepage

"All Rights Reserved 2023. Consultant Created & Not Affiliated with Arbonne International."

Yup. It's all from the playbook. And it sounds like an MLM playbook.
When she fails there will be offers of more courses for money. Offers of more coaching. For money. Offers to improve her engagement. For money. Offers of more 'trainings'. For money.
A small closed FB page of sheep shearers and MLM huns aren't going to create any buyers irrespective.

Interesting @CrossStitchX - I wonder what the “All Rights Reserved 2023. Consultant Created & Not Affiliated with Arbonne International” is all about? If it’s nothing to do with Arbonne why even mention it?

I wonder if the Be Well Club been set up by a former Arbot who’s got a garage full of stock to shift? It looks like they’re selling Arbonne products. https://www.thebewell.club/

See yawn has posted her annual ‘look how much I achieved with shit GCSEs’ post.

Yawns annual brag. Look at me, look at me, look how well I’ve done despite getting Us in all my GCSEs.

🤣Norma we must have seen her post at the same time.

And it’s clear that her own coach has suggested it might be a good idea to have a public FB page for her business rather than hiding behind a private page and setting it up has been part of the ‘hard work’ she’s been doing
She hasn’t an original thought in her head which is why she loved Yawn’s ‘trainings’ and why she makes copious handwritten notes from the recordings she watches in her coaching course

Also
she puts xx at the end of her posts on what is supposed to be a professional business page 🙄

What she's telling us (as if we didn't know) is that she's as thick as mince, and also hugely susceptible which drew her into Forever Fibbing in the first place.

Yawn has obtained the precarious illusion of “success” she’s had by being a self-centred, self-serving, pushy grifter who is absolutely OK with causing damage to others (not forgetting a couple of lucky financial breaks that have nothing to do with talent/ability/business acumen/GCSEs). The fact she has absolutely no friends let alone no GCSEs speaks volumes about who she is. She’s a big fish in a tiny pond who has quite spectacularly over-estimated her abilities and has done so publicly - this alone shows her to be not at all bright. The Kray twins didn’t have an O Levels either. She has nothing to be proud of.

MLM only works in the hands of shite for brains grifters. The last thing FLP wants is someone who is going to ask questions and think for themselves, or worse, reflect on the outcomes of what they’re doing. The ideal candidate for a long term upline is a greedy simpleton who doesn’t understand profit and loss and doesn’t care about living on the never never as long as they have enough to create the illusion - there’s a reason why many have already bombed and the rest are heading that way.

One look at the recent victims of Yawn, especially the very young ones, should be a warning to everyone that GCSEs or not, involvement with her will damage you.

I see one of Yawns team has not only copied her recent "I don't like selling" post word for word but also used the same picture!
So who's FL items for local customers are they? Yawns, this other bot or someone else's entirely?
One or perhaps both are lying - are people just blind to the blatant copying or do they just choose to ignore it?

Castle has also shared “her truth” about not getting great GCSEs but look at her now blah blah.

Yes, LOOK at you NOW Castle.

Her “truth” is an interesting thing to try and pin down. Her truth was that she owned a Castle but that wasn’t true, then it was her success that obtained the right to live in her castle but that wasn’t true either. She said she had a successful planner business, but HMRC says that’s not true. She said she was a 6 figure earner, then 7 figure and now she says she’s an 8 figure earner, but none of that is true. Then the sin of omission; who pays her bills, that’s a truth she never shares. Then there are all the other lies from FLP to Scamversity. She probably didn’t get 6 GCSEs either!

She can't spell either which doesn't give a fantastic impression. Not very professional is it?

I wish I could bottle this post and give it to every would-be bot about to get ensnared. Spot on.

@HouseofHolbein an MLM post wouldn’t be right without the obligatory there/their, you’re/your etc would it?! Though I haven’t read Castle’s output again to see how well her failed Eng Lang GCSE has manifested!

I see Yawn is being very creative with her MLM timeline and CV on her GCSE post. She’s missed out two whole careers, one very short-lived and the other where she just made enemies. In fact she seems to have implied that her NWM career culminated in financial success whereas what she should be owning up to is a couple of other pieces of luck which funded the NWM hobby/career in the early days, with lucky timing providing the necessary after the injection of money from elsewhere. If her followers knew that then they’d be more accurately able to assess their own chances in FLP based on not having the cash injection from elsewhere that Yawn had. Instead they’re fed some fiction about FLP success being a case of wishing, hoping, purchasing and doing what Yawn says even if it’s totally against the victim’s moral code.

Agreed! You’ve summed up the doings of certain MLM bots perfectly.

...combined with her "look how relatable I am...I have a messy kitchen and I'm not wearing make up" post 🙄

Why thank you @LibyanFeet and @dickiedavisthunderthighs. Nothing that hasn’t been said by you and others before! If only she was as transparent to her potential victims as she is to botwatchers. I guess we have the benefit of long term watching which reveals the contradictions and inconsistencies.

As for “no make up”. Yawn is absolutely wearing the usual mask. Even the no make up lie doesn’t stand up to much scrutiny. Honestly, she really should be better at bending the truth by now. But again, she has over-estimated her skill in this area too.

I saw this and thought of all of my fellow Botwatchers!

You know you’ve hit rock bottom with your business when you have to resort to TicToc to promote. I’m sure I’m not the only one who rapidly scrolls past anyone selling anything. TicToc is entirely for entertainment.

Botwatching could be classed as bordering on entertainment, although it’s more like a combination of mocking the afflicted and serving as a public health warning!

Yawn has loads of free time as she can't actually afford to go away. Even for a UK break ( which I know can be pricey).

It's all smoke and mirrors.

Looks like she's paid for some tiktok training too. Wonder whether that will translate into any funds....

Yawn has put her ticktock video on Instagram, it is about her diet. It's going to be a 3 parter because it's such an interesting story 😂