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MLM Bot Watch 77: MLMs are scams, you will lose money and paying £97 for an ‘official’ certificate won’t change that

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Spongebobette · 02/06/2023 15:22

we continue to call out the bullshit peddled by MLMs and the scam artists on the fringes who making money from coaching and pretend certificates

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Sugarplum48 · 21/07/2023 11:18

He's ceo of snapshots outside Starbucks!!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/07/2023 11:19

Hope he's been trained and a working at height risk assessment has been carried out.

Spongebobette · 21/07/2023 11:45

I think he’s a full time handyman. The house they live in needs constant attention.

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meatbaseddessert · 21/07/2023 11:57

What happened to Broke? Seemed to get a nice lady in Jan and he's gone quiet.

YouOKHun · 21/07/2023 12:04

Nurse has got the same problem as Weird Willy, lots of views but very little engagement in the form of ‘likes’ and virtually no comments apart from one post. She may be thinking the views show lots of people circling around who are interested, rather than the reality which is probably all of us taking a look.

The post that drew 21 comments was the post she offered free coaching sessions. It should act as a warning that people saying “you go Hun” aren’t necessarily going to open their wallets.

BuffAF · 21/07/2023 13:55

YouOKHun · 21/07/2023 10:06

@dickiedavisthunderthighs yes I clocked that too. I haven’t found any trace of his name on any business other than Yawn Ltd but there is no way he is “full time in the bizniz”.

Mr Yawn is in the stepladder business, isn't he?

Weird Willy is on Insta too. He has little to no engagement there either. Ex-Mrs Weird Willy appears to have a job but is also doing some scam shiz on the side. It says "let me teach you how to grow your online business" so maybe she has PIVOTED into the over-saturated world of bots that coach other bots.

MLMsuperfan · 21/07/2023 13:59

Yup Nurse has virtually no interaction on her posts which is tragic because in the MLM world you can easily arrange mutual comments/likes with other grifters. There are groups for it.

Also if she had a single customer you'd expect to see some form of evidence of that.

Sunsea21 · 21/07/2023 14:03

Surely nurse has to ask herself why anyone would choose to be coached by her out of all the thousands of “coaches” there are?!

YouOKHun · 21/07/2023 14:23

Sunsea21 · 21/07/2023 14:03

Surely nurse has to ask herself why anyone would choose to be coached by her out of all the thousands of “coaches” there are?!

I thought I’d Google Mindset Coaches in my area but there were so many that I decided to narrow it down to mindset coaches with the same first name as Nurse. Even after refining my search to a fifty mile radius of my front door and searching just coaches sharing her first name I was still counting when I got to fifty and got bored.

Spongebobette · 21/07/2023 14:36

Wow!

She is relying on her current network which consists of her mum and a few new friends she’s made since moving plus a few botwatchers

from that group, how many are going to want to pay for her services? And has she worked out how many clients she needs on a weekly basis to make a living wage??

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 21/07/2023 20:36

@YouOKHun I honestly believe that there are more 'mindset coaches' named nurse in your local area than there are candidates for 'mindset coaching' across the whole country.
Nurse is either seriously in need of help or surfing on the bank of mum & dad (or both).

meatbaseddessert · 21/07/2023 21:27

Spongebobette · 21/07/2023 14:36

Wow!

She is relying on her current network which consists of her mum and a few new friends she’s made since moving plus a few botwatchers

from that group, how many are going to want to pay for her services? And has she worked out how many clients she needs on a weekly basis to make a living wage??

She's going to need to see 10 clients a week every week to make £25k gross a year.

YouOKHun · 21/07/2023 21:58

@meatbaseddessert good point and she hasn’t a hope of seeing 10 paying clients this side of Christmas.

To keep a steady stream of 10 clients a week every week requires a lot of work. People I know in private practice (as psychotherapists and psychologists) relying on self-referrals only have to pedal hard to maintain that, then they have all sorts of costs; training, insurance, accreditation, supervision etc. What they can’t do is go off on holiday at the drop of a hat and decide to take Friday off because the sun is out. There definitely aren’t as many psychotherapists and psychologists per square mile as there are mindset woo coaches. She has some costs; Nurse should get insurance anyway, even as a woo coach.

Nurse hasn’t a hope of earning out of this - it’s going to be as lucrative as her FLP episode and possibly even more expensive. I agree @Twentytwentyhindsight - she needs help AND I think someone has always picked up the tab for her (which has done her no favours).

DeliaDeetz · 21/07/2023 22:41

I remember that live from Weird Willy and Homeschool. It was a really uncomfortable watch and I'm pretty sure I didn't see the whole thing as it was too awkward and creepy.

I'm guessing the person who told Nurse her business plan was amazing is connected to the company she's just spunked a whole load of money to access their coaching training. It's her kid I feel sorry for, at least when she was doing Forever she had a proper job and salary to fall back on...what's she got now??

Yawn seems to be currently pushing the idea that Forever gives her loads of time to go for coffee and dogs walks etc but it just makes me think her business isn't that busy and she's got to fill her days in other ways!

NormalForNuneaton · 21/07/2023 22:54

Forever gives her loads of time to go for coffee and dogs walks etc but it just makes me think her business isn't that busy and she's got to fill her days in other ways!

It also gives her the opportunity to scour the streets and coffee shops looking for new victims as they're clearly not flocking to her.

BSintolerant · 21/07/2023 23:05

I thought Yawn said she ran her alleged business in the nooks and crannies of time. These days Yawn’s nooks and crannies look enormous.

Sugarplum48 · 22/07/2023 07:41

The other thing l noted about yawns sm is if you are putting a winky face emoji in your insta bio whilst claiming to be successful, that doesn't smack of professional or successful. I wouldn't approach anyone whose Sm looks like hers or any of these other bots.

Spongebobette · 22/07/2023 09:46

YouOKHun · 21/07/2023 21:58

@meatbaseddessert good point and she hasn’t a hope of seeing 10 paying clients this side of Christmas.

To keep a steady stream of 10 clients a week every week requires a lot of work. People I know in private practice (as psychotherapists and psychologists) relying on self-referrals only have to pedal hard to maintain that, then they have all sorts of costs; training, insurance, accreditation, supervision etc. What they can’t do is go off on holiday at the drop of a hat and decide to take Friday off because the sun is out. There definitely aren’t as many psychotherapists and psychologists per square mile as there are mindset woo coaches. She has some costs; Nurse should get insurance anyway, even as a woo coach.

Nurse hasn’t a hope of earning out of this - it’s going to be as lucrative as her FLP episode and possibly even more expensive. I agree @Twentytwentyhindsight - she needs help AND I think someone has always picked up the tab for her (which has done her no favours).

She’s offering ‘discovery calls’ for free to anyone interested, and you can have 2 of them

which is an hour of her time unpaid for

in about 10 mins she can explain the law of attraction and manifestation (maybe a bit lingers as she repeats herself so much)

after which, how many will book and pay for appointments?

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YouOKHun · 22/07/2023 15:16

Sleaze is very rattled about something. Going home to that Welsh town was obviously a mistake as it seems to have triggered something. Wig has been deleting a few biz posts apparently. He badly needs to be stopped. I get the feeling he may not have paid a fine as he mentions bailiffs in one post.

Bailiffs are also bracketed with sheep, haters, losers trapped in the Matrix, 9-5ers, and people shedding spike proteins all over him. Meanwhile some it’s just wellness loons, fraudsters, property scammers, Andrew Tate, Wig and Sleaze in the winners enclosure. To demonstrate this he has had a photo taken in someone else’s Lamborghini.

He’s hit against a problem; his friends in the world of Coco do not agree with his dog eat dog Ponzi scheme endeavours and vice versa. The more he fleeces people in the former category using the latter scam the more difficult things become for him. Something’s up.

ticktock19 · 22/07/2023 19:30

@YouOKHun have you been on the 'blocked by coco' page at all? They've posted a few interesting articles about the D AI SY - crypto nonsense- unsurprisingly crashing and burning recently. You're absolutely right though, he's seriously upset about something right now.

Spongebobette · 22/07/2023 20:27

Sounds like he’s expecting a visit from the bailiffs

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PieonaBarm · 22/07/2023 21:18

See how well Sleaze's Freeman of the Land rhetoric goes for him when the bailiffs have a high court warrant and the cops help them enforce it. I guess at least he'll not need to sofa surf that night as the local station provides all inclusive packages.

BSintolerant · 22/07/2023 22:16

His Majesty’s Hotel has an amazing offer for Sovereign Sleaze: all he has to do is enter the code COMTEMPTOFCOURT 😉

YouOKHun · 22/07/2023 23:26

ticktock19 · 22/07/2023 19:30

@YouOKHun have you been on the 'blocked by coco' page at all? They've posted a few interesting articles about the D AI SY - crypto nonsense- unsurprisingly crashing and burning recently. You're absolutely right though, he's seriously upset about something right now.

@ticktock19 D AI SY collapsed earlier this month didn’t it? I guess Sleaze is being to feel the pushback from people now. I expect it’s why he left Dubai suddenly. I had forgotten that one of the people heavily involved in D AI SY started ibuumarang and before that was at the centre of Organo Gold, OG now has Messiah as an upline and Sleaze and Messiah were in touch in Dubai and planned to meet up. What a small world it is. I did wonder if Messiah is quietly trying his hand at a bit of Crypto scamming in the safe haven that is Dubai.

@PieonaBarm I suspect Sleaze’s problem is that he hasn’t got any money at all, not even pretend money visible on a laptop screen, and much less chance of rinsing someone in the UK to get hold of any quickly. This means he can’t quietly comply and pay a fine or some other default whilst shouting about managing to repel agents of the state simply through the power of his argument, towering intellect and charisma (whilst he quietly gets them off his back). Nor has he the money for two EasyJet tickets to a destination outside the bailiffs’ reach. So he has no way out and no way to style it out. He will just have to do as the bailiffs/police say and make lots of noise about his martyrdom and him being silenced, in the hope that it distracts people from the fact that a slightly overweight, oily failed scammer and chancer, living part time in a house he can’t afford has finally been told to pay the £65 he owes to British Gas and the fines he hasn’t paid. It’s the exposure he’s cross about!

Angrymum22 · 22/07/2023 23:47

Yawn has been posting before and after photos again. It is astonishing how much weight she has lost considering the only photos she ever posted pre weight loss were so heavily filtered she doesn’t look like she’s lost more than a couple of stone. Now she is posting the unfiltered originals hopefully her minions can see what a fraud she was.