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MLM Bot Watch 76: Commercial cults manifesting disaster for their recruits

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YouOKHun · 05/04/2023 16:15

Just thought I’d start this thread. If someone else has done so simultaneously let me know!

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BSintolerant · 02/05/2023 08:11

The director’s loan is owed to the company which is a separate legal entity to the individual directors. I wonder who took out the DL?

fromdownwest · 02/05/2023 09:47

FranceTeam · 01/05/2023 20:29

If there is a directors loan between an individual and a company of which they are they sole shareholder, then this is not considered a debt. It is money owed to themselves if you think about. Yes, they may have certain tax liabilities that may arise if the loan isn’t repaid, but that is it.

The GMP will not be able to involve themselves in any issue involving a members spouse. They have no jurdistiction over non members.

It would be classed as a debt, it is a debt payable to the company, from the individual who called down the loan.

These loans, have particular tax rules associated with them, and then if the tax is not paid, then the debt would move to HMRC in addition to the company being owed the capital back.

If the directors try to pull a fast one and lcose the company down, then the directors loan, and the HMRC debt becomes an asset of the company, that you personally 'could' be held liable for against your creditors, HMRC.

It is unlikley thtat it would be an issue with the police, however, if the assets are jointly owned, and the trustee in bankrupcy goes after these assets, then under the code of ethics, DH, should, advise his employer of the situation. Although, very very unlikley to have any impact.

Sugarplum48 · 02/05/2023 12:40

So it really makes you wonder if bali was the last shindig for 2jags then...

Angrymum22 · 02/05/2023 14:11

Anyone else recognise the ditsy floral red/pink dress Yawn is wearing in Bali. Yes she’s wore it 12 months ago in Abu Dhabi. Either she bought 2 last year in different sizes or there’s something weird about her weight loss.

Angrymum22 · 02/05/2023 14:12

She not she’s.
Also did she lose 5 or 6 stone she keeps changing her mind.

Sugarplum48 · 02/05/2023 14:49

She also needs to stop photoshopping her face to look slimmer than it is. It's very obvious. Mind you if she manifests a slim face in her head then surely she can't go wrong 😏

Angrymum22 · 02/05/2023 18:06

Yes, anatomically you can’t alter the underlying size and shape of you facial skeleton.

BrieOurGuest · 02/05/2023 19:17

That's why she had to wait until she got back to post pictures- she needed to photoshop them at home first

BrieOurGuest · 02/05/2023 19:19

That sounded a bit bitchier than I meant, I think she has definitely lost lots of weight - but by this point I expect she's so in the habit of photoshopping herself she can't stop herself tweaking the pictures

YouOKHun · 02/05/2023 20:16

@BrieOurGuest I think you are absolutely right. All her images need careful editing and manipulation to check there is nothing that could give the game away to her followers or contains glaring inconsistencies that her critics will spot. Her biggest problem is not ending up in the background of someone else’s photos as has happened to her over the last year and has blown her story and revealed the extent of her photo manipulation. So better to stay away, especially as she could have ended up in a rogue pic in her bikini taken by a frienemy also in Bali who I’m sure would be keen to publish it.

She has definitely lost a lot of weight but there has been a lot of dishonesty along the way that is easier to spot if you’ve been keeping a cynical eye on her over time isn’t it?. I’m sure we all have screen shots that show a “before” photo that then pops up later as an “after” photo, where the clothes are exactly the same but on a narrower body and the entire background is identical apart from the blurred curtains or slimmed down staircase! Even the dog has not moved a muscle over the months between the original and the photoshopped transformation photo. Things like a coat over the bannister are in the same spot. She got wise to this and removed a lot of early 2022 pics but too late Yawnie!

so I am sure you’re right, pick over the photos, bin the ones that show too much background/tell another story and airbrush what’s left. I am sure Mr Yawn took many photos and has spent hours since.

No one here gives a shit about Yawn’s weight or looks, good luck to her BUT when it’s about tricking people about the products’ abilities or about the success FLP brings then that’s a different matter. A false claim is a false claim even if it’s implied in a roundabout way and comes with a “disclaimer”.

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PieonaBarm · 02/05/2023 20:55

Wonder if Mr Yawn took his ladders to Bali for the perfect photo op?

FranceTeam · 02/05/2023 21:38

fromdownwest · 02/05/2023 09:47

It would be classed as a debt, it is a debt payable to the company, from the individual who called down the loan.

These loans, have particular tax rules associated with them, and then if the tax is not paid, then the debt would move to HMRC in addition to the company being owed the capital back.

If the directors try to pull a fast one and lcose the company down, then the directors loan, and the HMRC debt becomes an asset of the company, that you personally 'could' be held liable for against your creditors, HMRC.

It is unlikley thtat it would be an issue with the police, however, if the assets are jointly owned, and the trustee in bankrupcy goes after these assets, then under the code of ethics, DH, should, advise his employer of the situation. Although, very very unlikley to have any impact.

No, HMRC would only be owed any tax due on the transaction, approx 30% I believe. They would not be due the total value of the loan.

fromdownwest · 02/05/2023 21:51

FranceTeam · 02/05/2023 21:38

No, HMRC would only be owed any tax due on the transaction, approx 30% I believe. They would not be due the total value of the loan.

The loan is different to the tax, the loan is owed to the ‘company’ the debt is owed to HMRC at a rate of 39.35 %

Wintersgirl · 03/05/2023 01:26

Bloody hell, 39.35% on nearly £200,000 is a huge amount of money! They must be bonkers to do this, is the tax on the loan paid to HMRC every year?

definitelynotabot · 03/05/2023 05:50

Wintersgirl · 03/05/2023 01:26

Bloody hell, 39.35% on nearly £200,000 is a huge amount of money! They must be bonkers to do this, is the tax on the loan paid to HMRC every year?

I believe the tax is only not payable if the loan is not repaid.

Let's hope these CB cheques are big enough highly unlikely

YouOKHun · 03/05/2023 07:33

@definitelynotabot the CB is taxable too so I doubt it covers that much more most of them!

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Sugarplum48 · 03/05/2023 08:16

I've often thought that most of them have some mental health issues going on. It's not normal to behave the way certain ones do and just go on and on pretending you're something that you are not. It must be exhausting especially for bots like yawn and 2jags. Yawn with the constant need for adoration/recognition. 2 jags for well who knows just breathing as I've not figured what she brings to her family table yet.

SSDGM · 03/05/2023 11:03

Can anyone remind me the name of the advert watching scam that Salon got involved in before (I think) Life Tree World?
Ms Sponlie is trying to prove to ex- ts life Huns that a new version is a scam but they are well taken in. Hopefully she can use that older one as an example how it’s all fraud.

SSDGM · 03/05/2023 11:06

I went to Bali once for work. Business class flights, 5 star hotel, didn’t cost me a penny. The beach was filthy (sanitary products floating in the sea 🤢) and the resort was seedy (Ibiza for Aussies is right). There’s no Bali “experience”, Yawn.

YouOKHun · 03/05/2023 11:17

SSDGM · 03/05/2023 11:03

Can anyone remind me the name of the advert watching scam that Salon got involved in before (I think) Life Tree World?
Ms Sponlie is trying to prove to ex- ts life Huns that a new version is a scam but they are well taken in. Hopefully she can use that older one as an example how it’s all fraud.

Was it Traffic Monsoon you’re thinking of @SSDGM ?

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SSDGM · 03/05/2023 11:58

It was! So many thanks x

PieonaBarm · 03/05/2023 16:11

Thought I'd have a quick check in on our old pal Broke only to find he's now engaged to his new sexy-bum and they're apparently looking for a new area to live in.

BangingOn · 03/05/2023 16:43

PieonaBarm · 03/05/2023 16:11

Thought I'd have a quick check in on our old pal Broke only to find he's now engaged to his new sexy-bum and they're apparently looking for a new area to live in.

I’m sure they will live happily ever after.

In other news, Wig and Sleeze are apparently ‘building a nation’ with ‘all the lock on agreements in place’. Sounds legit.

Wintersgirl · 03/05/2023 16:46

Is that 39.35% paid yearly? Assuming the loan hasn't been paid back of course..

SoosanCarter · 03/05/2023 17:01

PieonaBarm · 03/05/2023 16:11

Thought I'd have a quick check in on our old pal Broke only to find he's now engaged to his new sexy-bum and they're apparently looking for a new area to live in.

is he using short first name or longer one?

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