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Joint bank account

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Mama1209 · 22/02/2023 21:29

Hi, me & my fiancé get married this year. We have been together for 10 years, have 4 children between us. We have never had joint accounts, but I’ve suggested we set one up as I’m terrible with finances/ planning. We both have a decent income, which is pretty similar. We currently half all bills as fair as we can. I’d like the account for all of our bills, food, holidays, childcare etc so that we can tf a set amount each month and the rest is our personal spending/ saving money. This way I will know what I have left over to spend/ save and I feel it will be fair in that we are dividing everything equally. Currently I find hard to keep track of what we have each paid. All the bills come out of my account and he pays me a set amount each month. This is stressful for me as working 6 days a week with 4 kids you can imagine things can slip my mind! I also have dyslexia and suffer with anxiety and depression so find the finances a lot to deal with.

When I’ve broached this subject, my fiancé says he’s happy to set up a joint account, but that any of my “personal financial” outgoings should be kept to my personal account. I understand he does not feel responsible for my debts, but I feel the “family car” should be paid for jointly. I have another 1.5 years to pay on the finance agreement (out of 5) and we have been together 10 years in which I have always paid for the family cars. He has work vehicles which me or the kids never use. If we go anywhere we use the “family car” he also uses it for short journeys on his own! I take the kids to school etc in it too. I also feel my petrol, tax, insurance etc should come out of the joint account but he argues that he wouldn’t put his work vehicles through. My argument is the “family” doesn’t use his work vans, we all use the car, even for food shopping etc!

Then we get to my credit cards/ loan/ store card. This is debt I have accumulated in the 10 years we have been together and as I’m self employed, I had to live on credit for my last maternity leave (where I still paid my half of the bills). I don’t spend excessively or live lavishly, any credit I’ve used has been for the family or household, so to me I think he should be ok paying half, especially since we are getting married and he’s happy to spend on my credit accounts!

I feel I’ve been a bit of a push over in the past and tried to keep things “fair” but to the detriment of my own financial and mental health.

Interested to hear others thoughts and what they do for their household finances thanks!

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Zone2NorthLondon · 22/02/2023 21:52

Keep your finances separate, joint only for bills,utilities,rent,shared outgoings
someone will inevitably rock up and tell you a proper marriage is about sharing
and that a commitment is evident by shared family money. I don’t and won’t share my money

however I don’t understand he’s happy to spend on my credit accounts! stop that right now don’t let him run up debt in your name on your card. He wants a credit card account, then it’s his linked to his monies

mdh2020 · 22/02/2023 21:56

married a very long time and never had a joint account until a few years ago and then just so I can use it to pay for car repairs! Separate credit cards too.

Mama1209 · 22/02/2023 21:56

Yes, I kind of agree with this too. So what about the family car? Would you say because the finance agreement is in my name I should pay it all? Even though we all use it?

Id keep my own mobile phone, gym membership etc (that is only mine not for family use) in my own account but I think the car should be paid for jointly as even when I’ve paid it off it’s a joint asset if we are married right?

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CaptainMyCaptain · 22/02/2023 21:56

Zone2NorthLondon · 22/02/2023 21:52

Keep your finances separate, joint only for bills,utilities,rent,shared outgoings
someone will inevitably rock up and tell you a proper marriage is about sharing
and that a commitment is evident by shared family money. I don’t and won’t share my money

however I don’t understand he’s happy to spend on my credit accounts! stop that right now don’t let him run up debt in your name on your card. He wants a credit card account, then it’s his linked to his monies

I agree with this.

Mama1209 · 22/02/2023 21:57

mdh2020 · 22/02/2023 21:56

married a very long time and never had a joint account until a few years ago and then just so I can use it to pay for car repairs! Separate credit cards too.

ah ok, so how did you pay the bills?

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JanglyBeads · 22/02/2023 22:00

Why did you have to use credit when you were on maternity leave? Did he not support you when you were having his children??

I find all you say quite worrying. A joint account isn't essential in a marriage (although I would feel it was), but sharing the financial burden of having and raising children, including housing them etc, is.

Zone2NorthLondon · 22/02/2023 22:00

The car is a shared commodity yes, he uses it
Get a spreadsheet List all shared commodities and their costs. Eg Car They are justifiably shared
You get a shared account for rent,bills,food,nursery, childcare and pay in proportionately

deny him access to your credit cards, he’s taking the piss. You let him

JanglyBeads · 22/02/2023 22:01

If the children use the car (which they do) then of course he should contribute to it!!

Mama1209 · 22/02/2023 22:11

JanglyBeads · 22/02/2023 22:00

Why did you have to use credit when you were on maternity leave? Did he not support you when you were having his children??

I find all you say quite worrying. A joint account isn't essential in a marriage (although I would feel it was), but sharing the financial burden of having and raising children, including housing them etc, is.

He did support me but not fully. As in, I got SMP which went on my half of the bills. If I didn’t have enough for my half, I had to ask him for more. I hated having to ask so then used my credit cards for bits and bobs too.

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JanglyBeads · 22/02/2023 22:14

This is all wrong.

You kept paying half of the bills even though your income was substantially lower because you were bearing children?

That is financial abuse.

Mama1209 · 22/02/2023 22:15

Zone2NorthLondon · 22/02/2023 22:00

The car is a shared commodity yes, he uses it
Get a spreadsheet List all shared commodities and their costs. Eg Car They are justifiably shared
You get a shared account for rent,bills,food,nursery, childcare and pay in proportionately

deny him access to your credit cards, he’s taking the piss. You let him

I love this and your so right! I do let him! I just needed to check Im right in arguing my point re the car. As for credit cards etc he doesn’t use them himself, but instead of him helping me when I was on maternity etc he let me use my credit cards for my half of daily expenses rather than him use more of his income, so for this reason I feel justified him helping to pay off this debt. It’s not like I’ve been buying designer shoes on credit or anything lol

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Mama1209 · 22/02/2023 22:17

JanglyBeads · 22/02/2023 22:14

This is all wrong.

You kept paying half of the bills even though your income was substantially lower because you were bearing children?

That is financial abuse.

I know, but I felt like it was a lot of financial strain on our family so I just tried to do my best

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DogInATent · 22/02/2023 22:19

Separate individual current and savings accounts, joint current account for joint expenses. You agree how the joint account is to be funded - either you both pay in the same amount every month, or you agree different amounts based on earnings. If the car is something you both use and/or you use it for family purposes then it's a joint expense - including tax, fuel, insurance, and maintenance. All bills are paid from the joint account, but it is a good idea to divide the bills up between you in terms of whose name appears first.

Mama1209 · 22/02/2023 22:20

SMP was £151pw, our “family car” is £313 pm just for the finance, I nearly lost it at one point due to late payment. I’ve basically been robbing Peter to pay Paul for the 6 months I was off. I’m still a payment behind now after returning to work in October. This doesn’t bother him in fact he was shouting at me tonight asking if I’d paid the gas & electric bill (which I had btw)

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JanglyBeads · 22/02/2023 22:20

And meanwhile his lifestyle suffered no hit whatsoever, I'm guessing?

What's he like if you disagree with him, OP?

Zone2NorthLondon · 22/02/2023 22:21

Straight question, why are you marrying him?
let’s cut to it,is the house in joint names or his,or you

WLBalanceHow · 22/02/2023 22:22

Why are you getting married to him??

JanglyBeads · 22/02/2023 22:23

www.aviva.co.uk/aviva-edit/your-life-articles/financial-abuse/

Example #2 above

JennyDarlingRIP · 22/02/2023 22:23

Who pays for the work vehicle? His employer? Himself but through his own business or he does out of his personal money? Either of the first two I'd say split the family car expenses, if he's paying for the work vehicle out of his personal disposable income to contribute to household finances, it would probably be fair for you to pay for the other vehicle, or both get paid from joint money.
He's an absolute dick for making you pay half when you were on smp and have to ask him for any extra money!!

JanglyBeads · 22/02/2023 22:24

I'd put any marriage plans on hold I'm afraid, OP.
Does this man really care about you?

Have you had MH problems?

Mama1209 · 22/02/2023 22:25

Zone2NorthLondon · 22/02/2023 22:21

Straight question, why are you marrying him?
let’s cut to it,is the house in joint names or his,or you

It’s rented!

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Zone2NorthLondon · 22/02/2023 22:26

I’m afraid he sounds like a right git, shouty and stingy
don’t marry him

Mama1209 · 22/02/2023 22:27

JennyDarlingRIP · 22/02/2023 22:23

Who pays for the work vehicle? His employer? Himself but through his own business or he does out of his personal money? Either of the first two I'd say split the family car expenses, if he's paying for the work vehicle out of his personal disposable income to contribute to household finances, it would probably be fair for you to pay for the other vehicle, or both get paid from joint money.
He's an absolute dick for making you pay half when you were on smp and have to ask him for any extra money!!

He’s got his own business so he has around 4 work vehicles that he owns outright on a traders policy. He then argues that I don’t pay for half of them! I have a small side business too, which I pay for products, room rent etc which obviously I don’t ask him to pay half of, these things are part of our personal business accounts. Where as we all use the family car.

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WuTangGran · 22/02/2023 22:28

What a stingy git he is.

oviraptor21 · 22/02/2023 22:28

Why do you want to marry him?

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