police checks If clear does it mean you have never had any criminal convictions?

[skankywitch]

What is the difference between a police check and an enhance police check.
Thanks

I don't know the difference but I police check does not mean you have never had any criminal convictions

Some are excluded, some are 'spant' after different amount of time

I guessing you mean a CRB check? (Criminal Records Bureau) I have had several - not because I am dodgy but because of my work (paid employment and voluntary work). I think there are 2 levels - standard and enhanced. I have only had the enhanced - basically it will identify ANY convictions - even those that have been "spent".

In my job (NHS nurse) you have to disclose all convictions - whether "spent" or not.

In answer to your question if it comes back clear then technically it proves you have no criminal convictions; although I imagine that it is possible that they do make the odd mistake...

You can have an enhanced check if you are going to work with children etc.

Some criminal convictions become spent after a number of years,things like speeding fines.

An enhanced check includes POVA(protection of vunerable adults) and i think children. Whereas if it isn't enchance it just covers generic convictions, possibly against children as well, i hve only had enhanced.

But a police check is/was different to a CRB - you can still get them (I think)

Oh sorry KatyMac - I didn't realise that the two were different; I had heard both terms used fairly interchangeably. (?spelling)

Thanks for your replies.

Would it identify an arrest with no conviction?

Or legal action taken against the police I sued them for wrongful arrest in 1995 ish

My enhanced police check is clear but is there anyway I can find out if the police still have this on file?

I will check back tomorrow and see if anyone knows for sure about this.
Thanks Again
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skanky I had an "enhanced disclosure" last done in July 2006. There are 2 websites listed on it that you can access for further info:

www.crb.gov.uk

www.disclosure.gov.uk

"The CRB uses the Police National Computer that contains details of Convictions, Cautions, Reprimands and Final Warnings in England and Wales and most of the relevant convictions in Scotland"

Hope this is useful

I was a signatory in an organisation that required volunteers to have an enhanced disclosure. It lists EVERY conviction (we had volunteers with minor convictions from over 20 years ago) and it also, I believe, can give any other information that may be relevant - ie if you were accused of child abuse and not convicted. That's what happens in Scotland, anyway.

Mrs Muddle is right from my experience. Standard check just goes with the convictions and the enhanced covers cautions, arrests, warnings etc.

I have had both a police check in 1999 for a nanny job and a crb when getting registered as a childminder. They both come back as no previous convictions which is correct I haven't.
But I have been arrested the charges dropped and I sued the police for wrongful arrest and received £2ooo.

What I need to know is who if anyone will have this on file.

I am travelling to america later in the year on a family holiday and I'm unsure if I need to apply for a visa or if I can travel on the visa waiver scheme.

Any advice very gratefully received.
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of course an enhances CRB will not show any crimes you have not been caught for...

just cause you have a clear enhanced CRB does meet you have not murdered anyone... just that you have not been caught for any murders etc

NANNYL sorry for the hijack but can i ask you a question. a few weeks ago you said one of your charges wasn't sitting until over 12 months. can you remember how old she was exactly?

Skanky I think you only need worry if you were convicted of an offence, not arrested for it, with regard to your visa.

I would go the visa waiver route,if you apply for a visa you have to rehash the whole past situation again, which may be on file after that.

If your CRB check came up clear, you'll be OK. If you want to find out if your records are still on the police files you will have to contact the police station where your arrest took place .

I do admin on CRB checks for a preschool.
Whoever said the enhanced includes cautions is right not just that, but the enhanced disclosure may include "disclosure information" which basically can include different kinds of info about people you live with, AND, about any current investigations related to anyone living at your address (stuff you might not even know about!). The recipient has to keep that kind of info confidential from the applicant, and shred it as soon as possible, those are our obligations...

SkankyW: why not just phone the American Embassy (okay, it means being on hold for ages) but at least you could hear from the horse's mouth about the visa situation. I would seriously consider phoning twice to make sure you get the same advice both times, only way to know for sure.

Enhanced CRB police check is for jobs that involve contact with vulnerable clients eg children, SW, NHS, Education

shows any cautions
convictions (whether considered spent or not)

Enhanced Disclosure
This is the highest level of check available to anyone involved in regularly caring for, training, supervising or being in sole charge of children or vulnerable adults. It is also available in certain licensing purposes and judicial appointments. Enhanced Disclosures contain the same information as the Standard Disclosure but with the addition of any relevant and proportionate information held by the local police forces.

The CRB recognises that the Standard and Enhanced Disclosure information can be extremely sensitive and personal, therefore it has published a Code of Practice and employers? guidance for recipients of Disclosures to ensure they are handled fairly and used properly.

A copy of the Standard or Enhanced Disclosure will be sent out to the applicant as well as the Registered Body.

nappy addict.... if i remember rightly it was about 12 months 2 weeks, defintely by 13 months.... she also didnt walk for ages, around 17 / 18 months i think

(but was great at sleeping and talking)

she is now a completely 100% happy healthy normal 5 year old.

I do remember that on her birthday she really couldnt do very much though!

IMO they are all great / advanced at some things and not so advanced at other things but all get there in the end

I don;t think a wrongful arrset should show up on such a check. BEcause you sued for wrongful arrest ie you were completely utterly innocent without a stain on your character. So it would be very wrong indeed for this to show up on a record check when it's not actually anyone else's business.

thanks - hijack over

Thanks again for the replies.

It has made me feel much better especially as llijj mentions "disclosure information" and cautions being on crb. And scottishmummy saying spent convictions also show up.
I was told at the time that the information they held would be destroyed as I wasn't guilty.

I will phone/email the american embassy as it does clearly state that anyone who has ever been arrested whether convicted or not!!
Is not eligible for the visa waiver scheme.

im going for a job at a school and have posted a thread asking if domestic violence will show on an enhanced crb.does anyone know?
also, do i have to put down details of my partner? he is registered at my addresss and has fighting convictions.would that show? i thought it just showed my information?

any help/info would be great

the crb request is specifically for you not partner, but think any police involvement or calls logged to your address will show up, so i do think police activity/contact at your address will show up

Hi,

Last year I was found sleeping in my car drunk, the police bailed me on drunkin and in charge of a motor veichle, I went to court and they found me not guilty, and what I would like to know is will this show when my employer dose the next enhanced CRB check on myself ?, I have done many google searchs but not found a clear answer.

Thanks